Godzilla Earth Upgrade and King Ghidorah downgrade

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

So uh...just out of curiosity why was Godzilla upgraded when the revision in question only applies to full power Ghidorah?

There's this really dumb statement that the two are equal in power, which contradicts the film and lore but was accepted.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

There's this really dumb statement that the two are equal in power, which contradicts the film and lore but was accepted.

Yeah we're working on reversing that

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

Furthermore, Ghidorah was never at full power in this film. Metphies himself states that Ghidorah's "full divinity" has yet to enter the universe, which would instantly eradicate the planet while the noodle heads didn't really do any damage to it. That implies Ghidorah was MASSIVELY nerfed.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Oof even the godzilla fans agree it's wrong

but yeah I'll try to find a clip of the fight but the entire thing is ghidorah killing godzilla and draining hisnevergy over the course of like half an hour and then ghidorah being forced into the 3rd dimension and goji oneshotting him

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

That is incorrect. Ghidorah at his peak was overpowering godzilla extremely casually and godzilla could do nothing but stand there and take it

Ok if we are not gonna take the secondary canon as no usable then which tier is gonna be Godzilla Earth?

He still has the destroying black holes feat

 

[WeeklyBattles]

The ones he destroyed werent true black holes, black holes dont explode like bombs when shot with lasers.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Still he is stronger than his past self which warrants a tier High 5-A tier

 

[Antvasima]

So what should we do here in summary?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Still he is stronger than his past self which warrants a tier High 5-A tier

His high 5-A was done through years of storing energy, theres no real reason why he would scale to that in his base form

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

His high 5-A was done through years of storing energy, theres no real reason why he would scale to that in his base form

I mean G Earth could have gained more power during 20,000 years of inactivity, as he was basically doing nothing but sleep during days, as seen in the anime.

Also if you have read the novels, his last enemy was defeated on 204x... without need to combat anything he just grow up in size and power.

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

So two things:

1) The black holes Ghidorah formed have been described as having ergospheres, as singularities, they bend time and space, they have intense gravity, the anime writers clearly did their homework on black holes.

2) You could argue that with 20,000 years Godzilla Earth stored up more energy (fueling his growth in size and power which was stated in movie 2) than the 5 years he charged up for Gorath. I'm a little iffy on that but it's possible.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

So two things:

1) The black holes Ghidorah formed have been described as having ergospheres, as singularities, they bend time and space, they have intense gravity, the anime writers clearly did their homework on black holes.

Yes, full power Ghidorah's black holes function like real black holes, but the ones used by weakened Ghidorah do not

 

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[Apex_Predator_GX]

Yes, full power Ghidorah's black holes function like real black holes, but the ones used by weakened Ghidorah do not

You have scans of Weakened Ghido Black Holes being weaker than the Full Power ones?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Here is a link to the scene

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Here is a link to the scene

Hmm

Also I wanna propose an upgrade to Ghidorah.

As he eated thousands of stars according official info.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Here

 

[WeeklyBattles]

A 4-B can destroy thousands of stars easily, that wouldnt be an upgrade

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

I mean wouldnt IT be higher than his current numeric value in tier 4-B?

If we consider he will eat everything in the universe that will include black holes too.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

It wouldnt even break out of high 4-C iirc

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Ok then.

What about the black holes?

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

4-B is because anime Ghidorah is stated capable of devouring everything in the universe, and that everything which dies would return to Ghidorah or be consumed by him. That likely includes neutron stars, and as confirmed in his bio planets and stars are common food for him, it doesn't seem to require much effort.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

What about Hyper novas?

Couldn't he eat them?

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

4-B is because anime Ghidorah is stated capable of devouring everything in the universe, and that everything which dies would return to Ghidorah or be consumed by him. That likely includes neutron stars, and as confirmed in his bio planets and stars are common food for him, it doesn't seem to require much effort.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

4-B Ghidorah is the version ofGhidorah that goji couldnt do anything against

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

4-B Ghidorah is the version ofGhidorah that goji couldnt do anything against

What about Ghidorah eating Hyper and Supernovas?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Still 4-B, still the version Goji didnt fight

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Still 4-B, still the version Goji didnt fight

Isn't it 4-B+?

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Nova/Supernova

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

What do you think of:

At least '''High 7-A''', possibly '''higher'''. '''High 5-A''' with [[Preparation|Red Spiral Particle Breath]]

At least '''Large Mountain level, '''possibly '''higher''' (Stated by Metphies that the attack Godzilla used to destroy Mechagodzilla's complex before would be nothing to it now, and that its power had increased proportionally to its increase in size, which should put it at around 10 times stronger). '''Dwarf Star level''' with Red Spiral Particle Beam (It will take [[Preparation|5 years of Preparation]]). Can [[Durability Negation|ignore conventional durability]] with [[Sound Manipulation|Sound Wave]]

'''Large Mountain level''', At least '''Island level+''' with its forcefield

This is to Godzilla Earth

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

@DarkDragonMedeus thoughts?

Would G Earth after 20,000 Years of growing and become stronger be far stronger than his young High 5-A key?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Regarding that Nova/Supernova page, the + signs looked very inappropriately placed; you need to be like hundreds of billions of times baseline to be 4-B+. Quark Supernova was not even 50x.

But those Goki proposals look fine.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Regarding that Nova/Supernova page, the + signs looked very inappropriately placed; you need to be like hundreds of billions of times baseline to be 4-B+. Quark Supernova was not even 50x.

But those Goki proposals look fine.

So you agree G Earth after growing is stronger than his High 5-A key?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

What do you think of:

At least '''High 7-A''', possibly '''higher'''. '''High 5-A''' with [[Preparation|Red Spiral Particle Breath]]

At least '''Large Mountain level, '''possibly '''higher''' (Stated by Metphies that the attack Godzilla used to destroy Mechagodzilla's complex before would be nothing to it now, and that its power had increased proportionally to its increase in size, which should put it at around 10 times stronger). '''Dwarf Star level''' with Red Spiral Particle Beam (It will take [[Preparation|5 years of Preparation]]). Can [[Durability Negation|ignore conventional durability]] with [[Sound Manipulation|Sound Wave]]

'''Large Mountain level''', At least '''Island level+''' with its forcefield

This is to Godzilla Earth

I was replying to this comment. Looks fine.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

I was replying to this comment. Looks fine.

Ok noted

Godzilla Earth and Mechagodzilla City will return to that level then.

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

Could probably calculate the difference based on the statement from movie 2. Every cell in Earth's body contributes to his power. He's grown massive since the past, and despite his weirdly low mass, his body size could generate interesting results.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Everything was edited

I think we can close this thread

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Could probably calculate the difference based on the statement from movie 2. Every cell in Earth's body contributes to his power. He's grown massive since the past, and despite his weirdly low mass, his body size could generate interesting results.

Wait, what?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Er...im pretty sure he just said that Goji's power increased proportional to its size but i might be wrong, cant check atm

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Er...im pretty sure he just said that Goji's power increased proportional to its size but i might be wrong, cant check atm

Here it is the scan

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Nvm, I see where I fuxked up. He said Earth's Body, not Godzilla Earth's, so i assumed he meant the actual ******* Planet. XD