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Local Dorito attempts to terrorize local high school girl again

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Plot manipulation can be bypassed by Conceptual Manipulation which Bill have now. This thread stated it.

It is just high-end reality Manipulation.

It is likely bypassed by Causality Manipulation as it can make the plot meaningless
 
Well, I mean would he use those if he was in a fight

Like when he battled the shacktron he didn't use any of these. I know it had a barrier to stop his powers but Bill doesn't seem to be the character to use concept Manip if he was actually fighting someone
 
Though Monika is Above Average , Bill is nigh-omniscient with his Precognition, Clairvoyance, and enhanced senses . He is likely not going to let her Existence Erasure first and Monika, in character, is never implied to used it readily but rather Plot Manipulation.

Now, Bill with his profile update, Bill can win with mid-to-high difficulty.

Being Non-Corporeal is bypassed by Conceptual Manipulation under its definition.

Bill could also Mind Hax since Monika got no resistance

So, I am Bill voting FRA
 
@TheArsenal1212, that was likely PIS, as he demonstrated many of his abilities in the show and particularly Weirdmageddon except in a fight which seem nonsensical, especially while Chase a group of kids really.
 
True, it does seem as though Bill never used these abilities because of his sheer arrogance that he can win. As soon as he saw someone powerful like the Time Baby, he took no chances. That with precog he should notice how powerful an opponent is an win

Yeah Bill FRA then
 
Given Monika was still working out tr kinks of her plot manipulation when she did her stuff with Yuri, screwing around with a quantum uncertainty like Bill will be difficult, if not impossible.

Monika is made to dance for all eternity for Bill's pleasure.
 
>Conceptual Manipulation with absolutely no stated use countering an unrelated ability that would prevent him from even using it in the first place.

>Bill starting off with regular beams instead of hax, with Monika doing the exact opposite

>Bill has no Resistance to anything Monika has except Mind Manip

Yeah sure.
 
Christian Higdon said:
Bill BFRs, and Monika can't erase via Conceptual Manip.
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She comes back and uses stuff that isn't conceptual to erase him.
 
Saikou The Lewd King said:
>Conceptual Manipulation with absolutely no stated use countering an unrelated ability that would prevent him from even using it in the first place.

>Bill starting off with regular beams instead of hax, with Monika doing the exact opposite


>Bill has no Resistance to anything Monika has except Mind Manip

Yeah sure.
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Yeah we were talking about that earlier. Bill underestimates weak opponents, but when he sees them as strong like the Time Baby he does what he can to win. If he notices how strong Monika is, like the upgrades suggests he does, he should just destroy her with whatever he needs to do to win. Sure he could under estimate her, but again I'd point to the intelligence edge and him noticing her power so he'd go all out to stop her
 
"If he notices it"

Except he won't. Unless his Precog is Star Wars-level, he gets erased because he can think of something to counter, even with his intelligence advantage.

Also, again, no stated use for Conceptual Manip. We can't assume he can just conceptually erase her without proof.
 
Yes. The opposite reasons are just assuming uses of Bill's ability or even using other, unrelated characters as "proof" that he wins.
 
I don't know why Monika doesn't just go for Existence Erasure right off the bat? The only reason she doesn't in-game is because she didn't want to mess with the code and potentially ruin the game, but this is just a fight to the death so she'd probably just existence erasure Bill immediately.
 
It's more that with his new intelligence boost, he should be able to use the powers he has when fighting someone he knows is powerful, and that the Time Baby is an example of Bill not playing games and just winning
 
Yes, Time Baby is an example of Bill starting with a beam attack from the start. Not of him using his hax to take out opponents far weaker (durability-wise) than his own AP.
 
@Saikou The Lewd King

>Conceptual Manipulation with absolutely no stated use countering an unrelated ability that would prevent him from even using it in the first place: Bill is nigh-omniscient with his Precognition, Clairvoyance, and enhanced senses, he can predict Monika's action so not using his best abilities in a fight look like PIS as shown in the TV show.

>Bill starting off with regular beams instead of hax, with Monika doing the exact opposite: it's could mean anything since Bill Cipher is unquantifiably stronger than Time Baby.

>Bill has no Resistance to anything Monika has except Mind Manip: Bill can negate most if not all of Monika's best abilities with own.
 
Timesmashaperil said:
I don't know why Monika doesn't just go for Existence Erasure right off the bat? The only reason she doesn't in-game is because she didn't want to mess with the code and potentially ruin the game, but this is just a fight to the death so she'd probably just existence erasure Bill immediately.
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Vote for Monika or just putting it out there?
 
But Saikou he uses his Beams because he knew that's all it would take. The fact he saw a strong opponent and went for the kill immediately means he would do what it takes to win. He didn't need to use hax if a beam could just do it him. It stands to reason if he needed to he could of used his hax to win given his nature in that circumstance
 
Nigh-Omniscience doesn't matter in such a fight, and Precognition has no stated use on his profile. Unless it was shown useable in a quick fight, it's not gonna come up.

Except he didn't start with hax in other situations. We can't assume he would here.

No he can't.
 
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