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[Jinsye]

An example of Precog

"Hey, here's what you're gonna be like in 5 seconds!"

Proceeds to scream while waving his arms wildly

Dipper proceeds to wake up, and scream while waving his arms wildly in the exact same motion Bill did

Or

"Hey Soos! You wanna know the exact time and date of your death?"

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Bill fra

 

[TheArsenal1212]

6-3 Bill

Also another use of Precog was

"Hey don't have a heart attack you're not 92 yet"

@Saikou if he could kill the Time Baby with a single blast in serious nature because he knew would work, why couldn't he also use his hax in serious nature? He uses hax to stop Dipper punching him in the eye, he uses stuff like duplication against the shacktron and he straight up petrifies Ford. A serious Bill Cipher against a threat like Monika which he could very easily sense and straight up know to be powerful would use his hax, and definitely his stronger kind because he'd know what he'd have to do to win

 

[TheArsenal1212]

7-3 Bill

 

[TheArsenal1212]

So Bill has reached 7 votes, does he need more since Monika has three or is it enough? Or is it a grace period now?

 

[Asuka_the_Demonic_Empress]

Grace period wooo

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

"Very easily sense"

Monika is a regular human with reality warping powers. Not really something you could see coming.

Also both Dipper and Ford are 10-B fodders against him. Not really a valid argument.

Also is that really precog? Feels more like part of his nigh-omniscience than anything, given that he could have seen coming a lot more of events than he did in the series.

Either way, I still have nothing on Conceptual Manip and Law Manip.

 

[Elizhaa]

@Saikou The Lewd King, In Gravity Falls, Bill, outright, lost because of PIS. Bill not using his abilities when demonstrated them in other situations to stop the kids is an example.

Intelligence, especially Nigh-Omniscience, always factor in a fight as it a defining feature of a character. Precognition goes with Enhanced Sense under his intelligence as "All-Time Sense" which allows him to perceive & have knowledge of infinite timelines/dimensions, and has knowledge of the past, present, and future. It is likely PIS that Bill couldn't see his defeat)

So, all in all, Bill not using his best abilities when he is Nigh-Omniscient is PIS and it does not mean that he would best abilities if necessary especially if he can predict an outcome.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

You can't just slap PIS on everything. If he doesn't use his abilities except in key moments, it just means it's not in his character to hax spam.

Nigh-Omniscience is meaningless on beings outside of his verse, like Monika. Also, again, he has only a few seconds at most in order to sort out every ability he got before settling on his hax that actually works.

 

[Jinsye]

There's also this for Precog

"I CAN SEE A KALEIDOSCOPE OF TEMPORAL PROBABILITY WITH FLUCTUATING RANGE! I CAN ALSO SEE THAT THERE ARE INFINITE ALTERNATE VERSIONS OF ME IN INFINITE ALTERNATE DIMENSIONS ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION WITH INFINITE VARIATION! ONE OF THEM ANSWERED BY VOMITING A STREAM OF BLOOD AND PRIME NUMBERS OUT OF HIS THIRD MOUTH!"

 

[TheArsenal1212]

Yes but what I'm suggesting is that Bill does use hax when he needs to, like incapacitate Ford, and use straight up power when it's all that's required. He uses what he needs when the situation warrants it.

Bill with law Manip states he will "change the system" meaning plans on changing all scientific laws and that he would do this once his plan succeeds.

 

[Jinsye]

Also by the words of Cal

"(Alex Hirsh confirmed that Bill only jobbed because it was "necessary" for his plans, would've instantly vaporized Ford as soon as Bill got what he wanted, and even when he's tricking you with words, he's imagining hundreds of ways to kill/maim/torture you.)"

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

His Law Manip then isn't enough to get rid of someone capable of coming back from nonexistence and who certainly doesn't abide by physical laws.

 

[TheArsenal1212]

His Law Manip then isn't enough to get rid of someone capable of coming back from nonexistence and who certainly doesn't abide by physical laws.

Can Monika kill a being who is a quantum uncertainty?

Also, his Concept Manip apparently stems from him being able to taste life and creation in giving new meanings/purpose to anything

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Could anyone please bring scans of Bill using his concep manip to negate another's being's hax.

Bill is strong enough to one-shot the time baby, Monika is strong enough to destroy the whole game so I give Monika the AP advantage.

From the little I can recall Bill doesn't use any hax in character, at least not any major hax.

Monika can just power null him and do what she does best, it goes from Reality Warp his ass to Plot manip him into lose.

I vote Monika via my reasons and FRA

 

[QrowBarr]

Also by the words of Cal
"(Alex Hirsh confirmed that Bill only jobbed because it was "necessary" for his plans, would've instantly vaporized Ford as soon as Bill got what he wanted, and even when he's tricking you with words, he's imagining hundreds of ways to kill/maim/torture you.)"

Source pls

 

[Jinsye]

uhhh

ask cal

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

That's...both a weak application of conceptual manip and a weak argument for him having it, to be honest.

Also does "Quantum Uncertainty" mean anything in this context or is that just a fancy word?

 

[Jinsye]

He's also been implied to have created the 7 Deadly Sins but not sure if it means much.

Quantum Uncertainty means everything he is, he also isn't.

It also means your cat is dead.

 

[Unoriginal_Memes]

Bill Cipher FRA

 

[QrowBarr]

He's also been implied to have created the 7 Deadly Sins but not sure if it means much.
Quantum Uncertainty means everything he is, he also isn't.

It also means your cat is dead.

Blame Schrodinger

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Nothing that Existence Erasure (Since Bill still exists, hence no Mid-Godly nonsense) or Plot Manipulation can't fix then.

 

[CursedGentleman]

Can we please just stop voting FRA everytime instead of actually saying the reasons, is being talked over if said FRA reasons stand to actually give him the win and yet, people vote FRA without thinking twice

 

[Jinsye]

How is existence erasure supposed to help you from your cat being dead

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

People have been FRA-ing both Concept Manip and Law Manip, which won't help him here at all.

 

[Timesmashaperil]

I still fail to see how Bill stops himself from being Erased by Monika the moment the fight begins.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

How is existence erasure supposed to help you from your cat being dead

Erase the nonexistence of your cat. Simple.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

what about my FRA?

 

[Unoriginal_Memes]

Can we please just stop voting FRA everytime instead of actually saying the reasons, is being talked over if said FRA reasons stand to actually give him the win and yet, people vote FRA without thinking twice

I've paid attention to, and read all of the comments in this thread. I feel like Bill should win for the statements that have already been provided.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Except the ones that uses Law and Concept Manip as an argument are probably moot now.

 

[TheArsenal1212]

8-3 Bill

Yeah it shouldn't be of use, you're right Saikou

 

[ChosenOrDeath]

I'm voting Monika because of Bill not using his most OP hax first while Monika does.

 

[TheArsenal1212]

So what grace period still or???

 

[TheArsenal1212]

8-4 Bill

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Should probably remove all the votes that argued solely about these two hax. Right now the only thing I could see that could harm Monika is BFR, but even then...

 

[TheArsenal1212]

Hard to tell if the FRA were from those reasonings though or the stuff like BFR being a factor in their vote

 

[Timesmashaperil]

I'm not even sure if BFR could stop Monika, seeing as she could still act despite being erased, but that's a whole other argument. Either way, if Bill doesn't attack instantly he's going to get erased, so I don't see how he'd win.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

why not restart the votes then?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Given that Monika's file would still be in the "main" universe, and that she could come back as a non-corporeal and nonexistent being even after having said file erased, Bill would pretty much have to BFR her and prevent her from dying for over a week. All before she erases him away.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Beerus FRA