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Natsu Dragneel VS. Meliodas (Mel wins!)

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Two people who used to have REALLY shitty win/loss records. also thing of dragons.

Natsu is at his strongest, and Meliodas is Post-Timeskip. Speed is equalized.

Natsu: 7

Meliodas: 15
 
So is it 6-B vs 6-B or High 6-B vs High 6-B? Also just saying if 7-A NNT Low Tiers gets accepted Meliodas will have his 3 losses removed.
 
I go with Natsu

Unlike most people believe, Full Counter will do Nothing to Natsu, and is pretty much useless, as well this Natsu can eat all of Meliodas's Hellblaze, which would give him deadly fire to use against meliodas, this would leave Meliodas with only melee attacks, which he is good at, but I believe Natsu has better versatility with all seven of his elements, and this version of Natsu did one shot and completely obliterate another 6-B, Likely High 6-B, so the regen part could be nulled if Natsu can destroy his hearts, by evaporating Meliodas, however Meliodas has lost without losing his hearts anyways

So I'll give it to Natsu 6/10 times since this isn't Assault Meliodas, and Most of what Meliodas can do isn't gonna work
 
I vote for Natsu winning due to his flames being able burn souls and he can just eat Meliodas's darkness/flames while not being hurt by them.
 
I mean it kinda depends. If it's 6-B versions than Meliodas AP stomps. If it's High 6-B than they are roughly even in terms of AP.
 
If it in strongest from then natsu have 7 flamez we already see that against hades natsu can use lighting separately. And natsu have sting light dragon slayer magic, which is stated as holy element. And in nnt holy and demon dont have good a relation.

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Even if he can't use it seperate , he can still use to boost enhace his attack. also FC not going to do anything since natsu will eat it(watch/read natsu vs vanish brother)
also natsu fordemon god reason
 
Voting Mel in a narrow[EDIT: handy] win.

Natsu: He resists Meliodas' darkness-enhanced attacks and he's got Sting's holy magic.

Meliodas: Meliodas is much more intelligent than Natsu. Any ranged attack Natsu makes is useless because it'll be redirected or nullified with Full Counter/Counter Vanish. As for melee attacks, Meliodas has unlimited flight. He can literally stay out of range 99% of the time, make Lostvayne clones to distract Meliodas, and swoop in to land a sword slash whenever an opportunity presents itself. Natsu would need a massive AP advantage for holy magic to matter, shown when the 10C were tanking holy attacks from the AA no problem despite the AA being significantly more powerful.

Literally the only thing Natsu showed in his strongest form was rushing at Acno and punching him with his seven elements. That's not going to work on a much smarter opponent who has flight and the ability to make ranged attacks useless.

Natsu can't even stay in the form for that long, he's gonna run out long before Mel does. He did two attacks and ran out of the form.
 
Mel smacks Natsu lol. He has helfire manipulation which im pretty sure Natsu shouldnt be able to absorb. Mel can literally reflect, negate, and absorb his Magic into his body and return it too him stronger. Mel can also use clones that dont vanish. They can also use his magic. Mel is literally smarter and literally has the experience advantage. He also is mover versatile with the ability to fly, plus he has regen. Mel is also way better at h2h combat compared to natsu, then you have him with a sword. Mel's senses are also crazy, being able to sense Monspet from kms away.
 
@malik

you forgot Natsu will be able to eat all of Mel's Hellblaze, and be powered up because of it and as for the forms time limit, we actually don't know how long it would last, because

1. He only needed one punch to win, and put everything into said punch, meaning if he didn't use that attack he could hold the power in his body a lot longer,


2. He might not have exhausted that power at all after that punch, since there was no reason he needed to be in that form anymore since Acnologia was gone in one punch, so why would he need to be in that form anymore, so while it might seem like the form ran out, it might just be that he turned it off himself


3. This is further backed up by the fact that a similar form, Lightning Flame Dragon Mode, lasts quite a bit and allows Natsu to fight consistently, so why would this form be any different


If this was Assault meliodas, I doubt Natsu could win, however since this Post timeskip Meliodas, I think Natsu takes this
 
others say he lost that form for more reasons that actually make sense. I also find it hard to believe that Natsu can eat Hellfire which is totally different than magic fire.
 
Natsu also has several kilometeres of range with his senses and he can fly by propelling himself with his flames. Full Counter would do nothing to Natsu because then he would just eat the attack and become stronger plus even if he didn't attack he's not going to be hurt by his own fire. Natsu negs Meliodias's hellfire either by eating it and getting stronger or by burning it away with his power null.
 
Natsu could totally eat Hellfire, since he ate Atlas Flames "HellFire" and ate flames he wasn't even supposed to eat like the fire God Flames, not to mention he can eat Lightning, Iron, Wind, Poison, Shadow, and Light, to say he couldn't Meliodas's hellblaze is a stretch
 
Pretty sure Natsu said he can't eat his own flames. I think Silver also mentioned something about slayers being unable to eat their own magic. Edit: nevermind it was Gray confirming that slayers can't eat their own magic when he used Silver's ice against him.
 
@AstralKing Dragonslayers are not limited to eating magical versions of their element. Natsu can eat actual fire besides fire magic.
 
Peter1129 said:
Pretty sure Natsu said he can't eat his own flames. I think Silver also mentioned something about slayers being unable to eat their own magic.
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he can't, but the fire being reflected back against him would also do nothing to him, since early on, in the manga, there was someone who had an ability similar to full counter, used it on Natsu, and it did nothing
 
All that is headcanon, I made sure by rereading Chapter 544. Natsu does one(?) normal attack that Acnologia tanks/overpowers (the panels didn't even show Natsu attacking, so it was unclear if he actually attacked at all). Then he does the big arm attack and that's literally it, he loses the form.

After reading the chapter I'm changing my opinion; Mel doesn't just narrowly win, he wins handily after Natsu blows all his power in two attacks that are easily avoidable/reflectable/nullifiable.

Regarding Hellblaze, you're NLF'ing Natsu's ability to eat flame. Purgatory fire is explicitly different from fire; Izraf and the Fairy King's Forest were both immune to fire but Purgatory fire could burn both without issue. The point is moot so I'll leave it with that, since regardless Natsu's going to run out of steam very quickly in this fight.

@Dragon

Full Counter doesn't need to hurt Natsu. It just needs to reflect Natsu's ranged attacks away from Meliodas, rendering them useless.
 
was atlas flames even hell fire and God flames all just sounded like titles tbh.

also Mel can literally disperse all of Natsu's magic attacks which you guys dont understand. Natsu's bigger power here just gets thrown out the window. Besiders counter vanish Mel can use revenge counter which is even more dangerous along with Mel being atleast 6B. Matter of fact which Mel is this even?? Natsu's flight isnt as good as Mel since he can literally make wings while natsu has to use fire to propel himself off the ground.
 
@malik The fight was over so he turned the form off. Natsu doesn't lose the elements as seen when he ate Laxus's lightning and it just became an ability he could use whenever he felt like it.

@astralking Atlas flames were hellfire and Zancrow learned his magic that could kill gods them godslayer flames. This is post timeskip Mel as seen in the topic. Natsu would just eat Revenge counter since it's white. Natsu's flight is just as good considering he can use all of his body while flying.
 
I don't think Natsu could eat Revenge Counter, that's a NLF, but he could definitely eat Hellfire which would just add Meliodas's power to Natsu's power
 
Bruh revenge counter is pure energy and can be used at close range, he aint eating something with an AOE that huge. Again can Natsu even eat something thats above his tier??? Revenge counter was about to one shot a couple of 10c who are all 6B. You also gotta prove that it was hell fire bruh not just go off names and stuff. Mel literally has proof of hellfire and all demons, but Atlas doesnt have any proof. Your just saying they are hellfire without proof of nothing.
 
No, Natsu can't eat Revenge Counter, but yes, Natsu can eat higher tiered power, as an 8-A, he ate Low 7-B+ flames, gained that tier, and beat The original user, also Atlas Flames fire is described as the fires of hell that can burn all magic, plus Natsu can eat Shadows, so saying he can't eat hellfie, would just not be true
 
@Astral

Natsu 8-A once ate a lightning of Laxus and fire of Jellal, who both are Low 7-B at that time, so yeah Natsu can eat fire from people above his tier.
 
The question is whether he can even eat Mel's fire or not. It's completely different from what Natsu age and he had to get rid of all the fire in his body to remotely eat Zancrow's flame.
 
@Astralking White Dragonslayers aren't effected by white things so Natsu would just eat it. Natsu was able to eat the flames of Atlas who was stronger than him at the time so Natsu would be able to eat the attack even if it was stronger than him.

Holyray
 
I wanted to add that Hellfire Manipulation gives soul manipulation to some extent so saying Natsu could eat it seem farfetched and even if he could, Natsu should take soul damage since it bypassed durability via soul hax which also Natsu have never resistance to.
 
@theglassman12 that was before though I'm pretty sure the order went Natsu ate Etherion -> Natsu ate the god flames > Natsu ate Laxus's lightning > Natsu ate the seven elements. As time went on Natsu became able to eat other elements without losing them or having to drain his own flames after the time he ate it from Laxus.
 
@Nedge1000 Natsu can't be hurt by something he's eaten after he's already eaten it. For a dragonslayer after they eat something they break it down into magic of that thing. Natsu ate molten metal once and didn't get any problems from it while being boosted by it.
 
There was no panel where Natsu "turned the form off" lol. After his attack ends the form is completely gone and Natsu looks close to collapsing from exhaustion. Two attacks, the form vanished, and Natsu is clearly exhausted. Anything else is pure headcanon.
 
@Dragon that's not what I'm getting at. The point is that flames that act completely different from normal flames or normal magical flames are difficult for Natsu to eat.

Laxus channeled his lightning to him, Natsu was gonna choke to death with etherion, and Wendy sent all those elements to Natsu.

Only two of these Natsu has actually eaten, and it was a risky move from his end.
 
when you guys can prove that it was real hell fire and not just titles then we can talk. Bruh jsut because it can burn magic doesnt mean too much lol. It doesnt meet the requirments for Hellfire manipulation. Why wasnt ignell flames regarded as hellfire??? Flames that were stronger
 
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