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Two incredibly skilled swordsman fight each other

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Roronoa Zoro vs Data Zahard

Scenario: Zoro and Data Zahard for some reason are going to stop at Universe of Hunter X Hunter and both discover they are swordsman, Zoro is excited to feel the strength of Data Zahard and prepares to fight, Data Zahard realizes that Zoro is strong, but first Zahard start by testing him to see if he's an opponent worthy and strong enough to feel that using Lecalicus is necessary.

Localization: Greed Island

Speed Unequalized

Both i 6-C Versions

Note: Asura is restricted

Both in Character

Victory for Death

Zoro: 14 (Knightofannihilation666, Gargoyle One, Veloxt1r0kore, ZackMoon1234, Calaca Vs, Dziga, Js250476, Veloxt1r0kore, Frantzy12, Omahariptic, Yomi Schwarz, Dat Dot, Korudo Daio, Jimboydejuan12)

Zahard: 6 (Litentric Teo, Jobbo, JBennett, Xanxussama1010, Gabriel 00, First Witch)

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Let's see if you're stronger than that giant stone statue...

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Let's see how strong you are ...
 
Ah, speed isn't equalized here.

So, Zoro is massively superior to someone with a mach 271 feat, while Data Zahard is massively superior to someone with a mach 836 feat. I think it's safe to say that Data Zahard should hold the speed advantage here, even if they are both capable of amping themselves.

As far as their actual swordsmanship is concerned, it's hard to say who's more skilled. Zoro has far more demonstrations of his skills, whereas Data Zahard primarily seems to have experience fighting in general. Zoro is likely more skilled as he only uses a blade, whereas Zahard relies upon a variety of weapons.

Zahard should hold the range advantage here with his bangs, as well as his needle from mysterious island. Lecalicus should also have more range than the majority of Zoro's attacks.

As for Zoro's advantages, he has armament haki to increase his attack and durability, as well as observation haki, which seems to serve more of a greatly heightened extransensory perception as opposed to what it does for Luffy or Sanji. Zoro also holds a small AP advantage, having defeated someone who's 12.7 gigatons, whereas Zahard one shot someone who was 8.6 gigatons.

I'll go with Zahard here, moderate difficulty. He can easily play a keep away game with Zoro, abusing his flight and range to keep pelting attacks that are practically the same as what Zoro can tank/dish out. Not to mention Zahard's massive AoE with Cosmos and Second Cosmos. Even with observation haki, I simply think it would be very difficult for Zoro to close the gap. In particular when Lecalicus' second form is thrown into the mix. And even if they do engage in CQC, which is fairly likely, Zahard has enough hand to hand combat skills to keep up with Baam, who has mastered dozens of martial arts. Zahard would likely be able to harden his body with shinsoo in order to fight against Zoro, and fly away should be get overwhelmed, covering himself with bangs to deter Zoro.

Zahard, mid-diff.
 
Vote counted and do you think Asura would be a dangerous technique for Zahard? Since Zoro can triplicate his power with this technique and Zoro has the Canon 1080p can handle with Data Zahard's flight, I just quoted this to mention that Zoro is not at all disadvantage against Zahard's flight.
 
I mean, stat amping might help, but it's not as though Zahard can't amp himself as well. And his AoE with Cosmos and Second Cosmos is much better.

I think to say that Zoro is not at all disadvantaged by flight is strictly false. Having experience against fliers does not change the fact that flight is still an advantage against those who cannot, in particular since Zahard has the flight and range advantage here with the majority of his attacks. And his danmaku makes his attacks far more numerous, which only increase his flight advantage.
 
Zahard should have the AP advantage, he wasn't even using his real power when he oneshotted Maschenny. I'll vote for him FRA.
 
He doesn't have the AP advantage in the slightest. Zoro one shot Pica with ease who casually did a 12.5 Gigaton feat. And he can further increase his AP via Asura and Busoshoku Haki. Kenbunshoku Haki would also aid Zoro seeing as how it gives him a limited form of precog, emotion sensing and incredibly high senses. As for ranged attacks, Zoro can counter these ranged attacks with his own ranged attacks or straight up null them like he did against Kaku via Asura. Flight won't be an issue either seeing as how Zoro has fought opponents who can fly. Now the problem I'm seeing here is that I don't think he can really damage Zoro or take attacks from him. Zoro one shot and tanked attacks from Pica, a guy who's casually stronger than Zahard.
 
Zahad's scales is at least 13.89 GT while Zoro scales to at most 12.47 GT.

Zahad does have an AP advantage but nto a major one.
 
How are you accepting the low end and the high end? We don't do that, it's one or the other. Also the calc members accepted the low end, not the high end. In other words, still 8.6 Gigatons.


Edit: Fukin Ninja'd
 
yeah I didn't read it properly I thought the Low end was the base and the high-end was with Redan. So Zoro does have the AP advantage but he did tanked that like it was nothing and casually stomped Maschenny where's Zoro went mostly all out when he took out Pica so they're probably closer in reality though that is just cunjecture on my part.
 
Zoro wasn't even close to going all out when taking out Pica. He was toying with him for the entire fight, much like all his post time skip fights.
 
AP, Dura, Skill and versatility are all in Zoro's favor

Legit don't see a reason he doesn't win, Zoro for Knights reasons.
 
The battle it self may of been casual for Zoro but the actually finishing move didn't sound casual, The fact that he used an actual technique rather then just a simple slash is proof enough. I'm not saying he was going all out makes me think he was putting a level of effort to take out Pica.

Anyways Zahad for Teon's reason, although I do think it'll be fairly difficult rather then moderate.
 
Zoro scales to one shotting someone who is about 13 gigatons.

Zahard scales to one shotting someone who is about 8 gigatons.

I'd say that the AP and dura difference is relatively negligible. And I'd argue that Zahard's feat was far more casual than Zoro's, as Zoro used what used to be his ultimate attack, while Zahard basically just unsheathed and maybe swung his sword, which was completely unnecessary on his part. Not to mention that he tanked said 6-C attack with zero damage, whereas Pica was capable of harming Zoro.

I also think that Zoro having the skill or versatility advantage is strictly false. Zoro has limited precognition, statistics amplification, some ranged attacks, and limited illusion making with Asura. Whereas Zahard has statistics amplifaction as well, danmaku, flight, shockwave generation, etc. Literally his shinsoo alone can do what Zoro does and more (defense, statistics amplification, various types of long ranged attacks, massive AoE), with the only exception being Zoro's limited precognition, which is strictly worse than Luffy's or Sanji's, and doesn't prevent him from being able to be hit. It's closer to extrasensory perception, which Zahard does indeed have.

I'm also confused on why Zoro would have such a significant skill advantage when Zahard has demonstrated the ability to fight toe to toe with Baam, who has mastered dozens of martial arts styles. Not to mention that he's been fighting for hundreds of years, far longer than Zoro has even been alive. Their skills are at least equal.

Thirdly, Zoro having fought people who can fly doesn't erase the fact that it's an advantage Zahard has. Zoro will still be at an inherent disadvantage as his primary means of attacking, that being in close quarters, is inherently just not as relevant, making his skills as a swordsman less relevant as well.

Lastly, Zoro has not faced ranged attacks like the ones Zahard has. Able to make dozens upon dozens of bangs that can attack from various angles at the same time, making it literally impossible to block the entire body at once without some kind of forcefield. Shinsoo black hole spheres with the potential to cause massive damage, as well as provide counter to all of Zoro's ranged options. And Cosmos with its massive AoE, as well as Lecalicus, should ultimately just prove too much for Zoro, who hasn't faced a combatant with such strong long range skills on top of overwhelming physical characteristics. And one who can do this while flying. Not to mention that Zahard can manifest the bangs behind, above, and to the sides of Zoro, making his attacks more unpredictable. Observation haki helps, but in Zoro's case, it's use is still rather limited, and it far from makes him invincible. He'd have immense difficulty even reaching Zahard in the first place. As his ranged attacks simply don't compare to his.
 
What exactly are the reasons for zoro to win? he only has AP advantage going for him, and it's very unlikely that he could even get close enough to zahard for that to make a difference considering the speed and verstility andvantage for zahard.
 
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