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Two On One Battles Being Added to Profiles.

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So, I think there should be some exception to the rule of:

"Although versus threads involving more than two characters are allowed for the sake of entertainment, they are not allowed to be added to any profiles, as they tend to be misleading."

Why should there be exceptions? Because there are some characters whose abilities not only directly work with each other but they almost always fight together as well, separating them would be a huge nerf overall. I don't see how it'd be much different from separating Maka and Soul, Red and his Pokemo, the twins from Outlast, Many characters with summons etc.

Of course, I'm only proposing that we allow duos and not groups of people, and they should only apply to people who work as a team on a regular basis and can only reach their full potential as a team.

Example: Goku and Vegeta have worked together on occasion, however, most of their fights take place seperately and they can still fight at their full potential without a partner. Same with Naruto and Sasuke, Ichigo and his friends, the MCU Avengers, DCEU Justice League, Luffy and the strawhats, CW Barry Allen and his crew, and really most characters who have fought as a team before. (Ino-Shika-Cho might actually work, but there is too many characters in that scenario)

I hear you ask: "What characters would this even apply to?"

A good example is Naofumi and Raphtalia who fight 90% of their battles as a team and can only properly function as a unit. Naofumi has very little offense while Raphtalia has very little defense (Both Below Average Human level in their weaker categories).

Another decent example is Yuno Gasai and Yukiteru Amano in their human forms. Yuno's Precog is useless without Yukiteru's precog, and Yukiteru has very little fighting ability and can't take advantage of his precog without Yuno.

Now, this is just my stance on the whole thing. I want to hear what others have to say about this.
 
@First Witch

It's an issue that I noticed a while ago, let's hope more people notice the thread...
 
In the case of characters that explicitly need the other to fight properly I agree with this, but if it's for characters that, even if they've always, 100% of the times fought togheter, can also fght on their own without problems, then I don't think it should be allowed to be added.

Overall, I agree with this, but for really specific cases.
 
I personally would be fine with this if said characters always (or nearly always) work as a team and achieve the best results.

I'm totally not saying this just because I want Kephri to have access to her full in-story power.
 
@Genki

Well, I agree.

I actually think they should meet these two criteria:

1)They must fight together on a regular basis.

2)The two characters must need one another to properly fight at their full potential.
 
Basically this^

Both would need to be met, or at least the second one. The first is not enough on its own
 
Admins who actually care for VsThreads are the main target to pester Owo. Cal, Kaltias, maybe Matthew and Dragon.
 
Yeah, I'd be fine with this. But, as was said, only under very specific circumstances that allow this to be applicable.
 
RKGenki said:
In the case of characters that explicitly need the other to fight properly I agree with this, but if it's for characters that, even if they've always, 100% of the times fought togheter, can also fght on their own without problems, then I don't think it should be allowed to be added.

Overall, I agree with this, but for really specific cases.
^Pretty much this.

It's fine for characters whose fighting abilities are awful when they fight on their own, but not for people who can fight just fine and simply do better with a partner

First Witch said:
Admins who actually care for VsThreads are the main target to pester Owo. Cal, Kaltias, maybe Matthew and Dragon.
U did this to me
 
I think that it would likely be too confusing if we made specific exceptions to the rule. And if we let it go entirely the matchup results would turn completely unreliable, as you could team up much weaker characters with stronger ones to achieve a desired result.
 
I'm really not understanding what's confusing about making an exception for characters who basically can't fight on their own at all.

And no one ever proposed that we should abandon the old rule.
 
Well, I suppose that you have a point. I am probably overly cautious.
 
There aren't even that many characters this applies to. Maybe Nana and Popo (the ice climbers), Maka and Soul, most pokemon trainers, The Wonder Twins, etc. other than those idk any others
 
I should note that the likes of Sayo vs Bayonetta was added. Sayo is a Digimon Tamer and utilizes a group of Digimon to fight. So I was under the assumption that characters like this were already allowed.
 
Well, if this is just about Yu-Gi-Oh card users, Pokemon trainers and the like, I suppose that writing a special rule should be fine.
 
Well, cases like that I mean.
 
Well, I suppose that I am fine with that then.
 
Missed this thread earlier.

Sentai and magical girls are often the same in principle (unable to unleash their full potential unless fighting together), yet they often fight in groups of three or more.

In a number of Precure, for example, by the end of their series the group often has a planet-busting group finisher, yet weaker finishers individually.

Take Heartcatch Precure!, where in the finale the group used their Forte Wave finishers to hitstun the Big Bad into their Fortissimo finishers, which then hitstunned him long enough for them to get off the Heartcatch Mirage group finisher and opened up the door to the Infinity Silhouette group transformation.

I'd contest that they would never defeat planet-busters individually— the strongest Cure shown in their verse's history was unable to— yet as a group they reached planet-busting tier and were implied to be far stronger.

Further, regarding iterations already on the wiki, the feat that gives the Go! Princess Precure girls their planetary AP is based off of their group finisher. Individually there's no proof that even their Grand Princess forms can reach that level of AP (seeing that Close took no notable damage in his 1v1 with Flora in the finale), and thus they could never operate to their full potential in a versus thread.
 
With things like Maka and Soul I don't get why they have seperate profiles. For all intents and purposes, combat wise, they are one combatant
 
What do the rest of the staff think?
 
Oh.I guess this was never officially concluded.

It seems like most people agree with me.
 
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