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Kirby (Universe) Revisions Part 6

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Continuation from this thread.

Just Powers and Abilities, the thread for the 3-A upgrade comes later.

Edit: Yeah no, as I said below Void Termina looked universal the first time information was filtered. And now he only has vague information.

Game Mechanics in Star Allies
Apparently this is difficult to recognize for many important users.

  • Kirby's Empathic Manipulation not always working (obviously)
  • Kirby only being able to have 3 Helpers at the same time.
  • Helpers transforming into other enemies when throwing a heart at them.
    • By being able to throw hearts they should also have Empathic Manipulation.
  • Kirby & Star Allies only being able to throw his hearts an extremely limited distance.
  • The more than 25 characters Kirby summoned at the end of the game quickly disappearing after hitting VT.
Stuff

  • (Ô£ô)Reality Warping & Creation for Artist Kirby
  • Type 2 Immortality for Kirby
  • (Ô£ô~)Interstellar range for Kirby
    • (Ô£ô~)Everyone scales or something I guess.
  • (Ô£ô)Power Bestowal for Kirby as he gives Helpers his Empathic hax.
  • (Ô£ô)Some differentiation between this Empathic hax and the old one;
    • "(Can turn absorbed enemies into Helpers. Can turn enemies into Friends if he is able to reach them with hearts that he can endlessly generate)"
  • (Ô£ô~)Some annotation that Kirby's Empathic hax works with robots as it works with Gim, Plugg(?) and Wheelie.
  • More Summoning for Kirby;
  • Remove "(normally turning them into star shaped energy bolts in the process)" in Kirby's profile and change the transmutation part for some thing like this; "Transmutation (By himself [Can spit enemies as stars. (X)Can turn enemies into stars by rolling towards them. (X)Can turn enemies into blue stars when there are 4 or more of them near him. Can turn Helpers into objects.], Cook, Baton, Bubble, Magic, and with Robobot Armor)"
  • (Ô£ô)Add "[By itself & Sweet Dreams]" next to Sleep in Healing
  • (Ô£ô)Add "Dream Manipulation (Sleep)" via Sweet Dreams.
  • (Nah)As DDD, MK and other bosses in star allies are boost for the power of the hearts, then Kirby's should also have the same characteristics, so Statistics Amplification of other via Empathic Manipulation.
  • Looking better this base Kirby should have something like "Can steal things from his opponents"
  • Selective Intangibility for the attacks of ESP & plasma.
  • Homing Attack for Star Allies Sparkler
  • (Ô£ô~)An ax and a bat in Kirby's equipment.
  • Items for the Helpers: Various Food Items, Invincibility Candy, Maxim Tomato and Friend Star.
  • (Ô£ô)Empathic Manipulation for all Star Allies.
    • (Ô£ô)Also Cloth Manipulation.
  • [1][2]Resistance to Transmutation for Star Allies, likely an add this to Kirby's Transmutation Resistance; "Cheff Kawasaki cannot turn him into foot".
  • (Ô£ô)"Can recover from being flattened"+Toon Force for Star Allies.
  • (X)Enhanced Senses for Marx.
  • Whispy Woods can now summon (5-A) enemies
  • (Ô£ô)Magolor's Genius intelligence that was accepted here and never applied.
  • (Nah)Sealing for NOVA[3]
    • He has a Composite profile now because why not.
  • (Ô£ô)BFR for Dark Mind and Dark Meta Knight as he uses the Dimension Mirror to suck Dedede into the Mirror World in Triple Deluxe, although he has to get close first.
  • "Can take objects out of nothing" for Claycia(?)
  • Absorption for Sectonia [4][5]
  • (Done)Longevity for Kracko, Sectonia, Landia, Parallel Landia and all the ancient treasures created by the Ancients of Halcandran (the Master Crown, Lor Starcutter, NOVA, Marx Soul and Star Dream)
  • "Likely Homing Attack" for MK and "Likely Danmaku & Duplication" for Kracko as they showed that in Epic Yarn.
    • This is other form of Duplication
  • (Ô£ô)Statistics Amplification for everyone who isn't Kirby as shown in the extra mode via Power-Up Hearts (Strength, health and speed).
Controversial Stuff

  • (Nah)Helpers are definitely 4-A/at Kirby's level in this game. I propose that they should have 2 keys, one for 5-A normally and 4-A at best, it's not crazy to say that they were boosted under Kirby's influence.
    • "Normal" Helpers & MK's knights would scale to this.
  • (~)Magolor's durability is simply wrong, the destruction of Another Dimension being 3-A is already kinda dubious, but he simply didn't survived that, he was BFR'd to a dimension beyond space and time before the universe could begin to collapse.
  • Also his Striking Strength should be parallel to his tier if there is no problem with that.
  • Does the "new" stamina rule ruins Ghost Kirby's limitless stamina?
  • (~)Range for Kirby looking like this?:
    • "Standard melee range to Extended meleerange range by himself, inhale, copy abilities with weapons and some with projectiles (Kirby is 20cm tall). Interstellar with other projectiles (Able to send a meteor through these distances while it shatters small moons in the process). Intergalactic with the projectiles of the Warp Star and Starship, and with air puffs enhanced under the effects of the Mint Leaf (Can quickly reach Dark Mind and Kabula in a chase fight, both being able to keep up with Kirby's speed). (X)Universal with Beam Mage's time stop. Multi-Universal with Pocket Reality Manipulation (Controls his infinite stomach dimension from the universe in which he is in)
  • (Ô£ô)In their Soul forms Drawcia, Marx & Sectonia can transformed into dozens of paint drops and attack launching themselves, no matter how many drops are destroyed they will come back from that. So I think that qualifies as High-Mid regen.
  • Absorption and Resurrection for Marx. Also Immortality type 7 and Spirit Physiology for Marx Soul, as he is the only soul boss who did died and "brought back his evil soul".
  • Access to the Reviving Tomato for Bandana Dee. He never uses it, he's just gives it to you. I think it's fine to say that having it triggers its effect when dying ("Likely Auto-Resurrection with Reviving Tomato").
  • (Nah)This being "Likely Time Manipulation via Toon Force".
  • (?) Putting the rest of the Anime only powers in Kirby's profile.
    • "Mind Control/Possession (Baton [anime]), Limited Existence Deletion (Cleaning [anime])"
  • (Ô£ô?)Replace "Unaffected by Magolor controlling the inhabitants of the universe." for "Unaffected by Magolor controlling an unknown amount of beings in Another Dimension" in Kirby's mind hax resistance.
  • (Nah)Marx's Mid-Godly regen over time.
  • Void Termina's Mid-Godly regen over time.
 
>Calling Kirby's profile "game Kirby"

lol what?
 
If it wasn't just game Kirby we wouldn't have a profile for Anime Kirby. Or Manga Kirby. This isn't composite.
 
@Saikou Kirby has like more than 50 mangas, our Kirby profile already has many things coming from the anime, 1 important Regenerationn feat from a random manga and 1 important intelligence feat from other random manga. The other Kirby profiles are there just to have more Kirbys with different tiers.
 
Then they should be removed. Simple.

Having a composite profile when a character has one specific and main incarnation is ridiculous honestly.

Also how is that "Time Stop"? I don't really see it in your video.
 
...

Then... the other kirbies must be rid off.

They are not necessary if it turns out that Kirby is composite.
 
He does. The game one.

And don't pull that "It doesn't have a canon" argument because it clearly does.
 
We don't for TLoZ. Anything non-canon is non-canon. We just have a Composite Link because there is no one definitive version of Link but that's it.

Alternate media in Pokémon are canonically alternate timelines. Not the case with Kirby.
 
Huh. I thought that Cal brought some TLoZ manga a while back for an upgrade or something.

Nvm.
 
Seriously just look at our composite profiles. All of them are for characters with tons of different incarnations with none of them being more canon than the other. The only exception is Soul Eater but it's even stupider than here and I plan to change that.

This is just giving Kirby more abilities for the sake of it.
 
Cal at one point said that he was going to defend the anime being secondary-canon to the games or something like that. Until having his opinion here, does everything else seems good?
 
No.

I still want my answer to time stop first off. I don't see anything resembling time stop there.

You link a video showing only Marx for the regen thing, not any of the other villains.

I played the game with Time Mage Kirby. Pretty sure it's something that only affects one enemy.
 
Seems OK, but I would wait Cal about Magolor's feat. Also, for boss souls high-mid only in paint form could be better.
 
Time Manipulation, not Time Stop, and it's the Dark Jamba Heart rewinding time after the cutscene. This is something that would be applied to Hyness and Void Termina, perhaps.
 
I don't think the Time Manip scales to any character tho (from what we know so far).
 
Then why is it being mentioned for Kirby? @Hadou

Also Marx' Enhanced Senses is clearly metaphorical. That was even mentioned in your Kirby Discussion Thread.

Also the Interstellar thing for Kirby...doesn't look interstellar?

Also Transmutation seems like your usual "Enemy turns into bonuses when they die"
 
I didn't imply that the time manip was for Kirby.

I believe there is a respectable possibility of Marx's Enhanced Senses not being metaphorical.

? It was calculated at 11,996,304,563.27114 c.

Well, Kirby does that and there are statements to support it, there is nothing more I can say about it.
 
You said that Kirby's range should be universal with time manip.

No there isn't. It's just "He's ready to do a lot to help".

Nevermind then.

Not enough, especially when it's just a manual.
 
Oh that one, Beam Mage is said to stop time many more times in the Japanese version of the game, it works with more than 1 enemy at the same time and...why wouldn't a time stop be universal?

Ok then.

Ok.

What's the problem with manuals?
 
Because it factually doesn't stop everything. And we hardly put stuff like time manip as range.

Often describing things in term of gameplay rather than what happens in-universe. Effectively an enemy is "turned" into a star when killed but that's just how it happens gameplay wise.
 
The "turn into star" thing seems to have some sort of importance in the mini game, so I wouldn't immediately call it gameplay mechanic. I need to see the mini game
 
Ok, JoJo characters have that tho.

This one had like 3 or 4 statements, I expect it to stay.
 
Well it's outright shown to be universal there. Not sure why it's specified there though.

All the same kind of statements.
 
Yeah, we will later update some profiles with their new images.
 
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