Altair Atleast 2C upgrade (Re:Creators)

Near the end of Episode 21, Altair stated she could create an Infinite Worlds and Infinite Stories. She even destroyed the Uni she created and remade another one for Setsuna Casually. So shouldn't she be "Atleast 2-C possibly far higher" instead of just "Low 2-C" seeing as how she could casually create and destroy Universes??? Also, shouldn't she have Acasuality because she has no Story or Background History & came into existence outta nowhere??? And also Probability Manipulation via Finding an exit out from those Infinite gates and Finding a blank personality in Sirius thus she could possess her??? She also made Forcefields twice in series, so that should be added in there too. Plus she should have Reality Warping in her Audience Amped version as the Universe she created was specifically tailored made to sustain Setsuna's existence and not alter the laws of reality and cause it to collapse/destroy. There should also be a mention of "Countless Abilities" too seeing she was constantly powered by her Fanfic stories.

Do you have any proof for your claims? Creating infinite universes is a 2-A feat.

"Near the end of Episode 21, Altair stated she could create an Infinite Worlds and Infinite Stories"

That doesn't mean she could've done it all at once and context is very important, if she is the kind of character to exagerrate her own powers her statements can't be taken at face value.

"She even destroyed the Uni she created and remade another one for Setsuna Casually. "

Unless she did both of those thing simultaneously she isn't 2-C

Aguila is correct.

"She destroyed the uni and created a new one"

Old Othinus profile placed her at Low 2-C, but she did the same thing hundreds of millions of times in a row.

We put her at Low 2-C because it was never explained if she can do it at once, so we assumed she would create one by one. Even though she did it casually, she has to create two at once to be 2-C.

Yeah sorry to say but she can't be 2-C unless she created at least 2 universe at the same time. But the other abilities like Acasausality, Probability Manipulation, Forcefield and Reality Warping and mentioning she has countless other abilities. I think some are ok but you should just wait a bit to see if anybody else agrees. Although Acausality is probably not going to happen.

Agreed with what's already been said, she is only Low 2-C.

As for her abilities, Acausality is iffy, she did come into existence out of nowhere, and she is a fanfic character who has no story or background, but she does have a beginning, she couldn't have existed without setsuna, kill setsuna before creating her, you kill her, hence she isn't acausal.

Probability manipulation might be plausible as she found an exit in infinite space, i do also remember something about probability or something being said about her possessing sirius, need to see that scene again.

Adding forcefields is ok.

Reality warping is ok.

She does indeed have more abilities but they are unknown, a mention of many others would be ok though.

I'm kinda surprised I missed the Forcefield and probability manipulation when I marathoned Re:Creators and took pictures of Altair using her abilities.

So she stays at Low 2-C ??

She displayed Probability Manipulation in Episode 17 when Selesia attacked Altair's concept and Trapped/BFR'd her into the Infinite Gates dimension and Altair not only survived the Attack but got out of the dimension and explained that she was able to find 1 exit out of those Infinite gates. She was also implied to have used it to find a blank personality in Sirius to possess her in Episode 20 just after getting her Existence changed.

Forcefield part was when Blitz hits her with his Gravity Bullet in episode 19 iirc and in Episode 20 she blocks Hangaku's attack with her forcefield and erases it from Existence.

I explained the Reality Warping part in the Post and also the Countless abilities part.


About the Acausality part, I agree with Celestial Pegasus.

Also about her Striking feats in the Audience Amped Version, shouldn't it be 'Unknown' instead of 'Universe+' lvl seeing that she hasn't displayed any Strength related feats in her Audience Amp version but only used her Creation and Reality Warping hax to pull off a Uni+ lvl feat.

Also shouldn't she have Resistances to Biological Manipulation, Poison Haxes,etc considering she has no Organic Body but what she calls "Physical Image". It was shown multiple times throughout the Series (Episode 1, Episode 10 just after the 20:15 mark, Episode 17 when Selesia hit her with her Wave Chant, Episode 20 during the Sirius vs Altair fight) that her body is a Holographic type and never in the entire series was she Wounded or was Bleeding.

I just found something related to Altair's Acausality. Its in Episode 2. From 05:00 to 05:21 Meteora explains that the Stories are Universes that had been there along with the main Universe since the Beginning but they started to Resonate with each other and it manifested as someone's thoughts and hence the "Creators" or Writers could manipulate the events in those Universes as Stories. From 07:15 to 07:35 she again explains that when a creator creates a story, the story Universe is Seperated from the Main Universe and exists Independently without any Relation to Cause and Effect with the main Universe. She then says that Altair has Transcended the Yolk of her Story/Universe (Which may be an indication that Altair isn't bound by the Laws of the Universe as "Yolk" was implied to be a Laws of the Universe throughout the Series) What do you think about this @Celestial Pegasus???

Might as well bump this

Ok so looked back over the scenes, only think her probability manipulation is specific to her taking over people. Her finding an exit in infinite space i don't think is defintive to say she has probability manipulation, that i think is locality tracking, which is a sub power cosmic awareness.

As for the 2nd instance where she takes over sirius, it was said sirius didn't have enough information compared to altair, she didn't have a personality, altair was able to slip into one of the possibilities for sirius, which in this context means one of the possibilities for her personality, this was all in order to take sirius over though, so ultimately think it's useless as it wouldn't have worked on someone with a personality. Limited probability manipulation is what i think it is.

What meteora said was that the worlds existed independent of each other then they started to resonate with each other, pretty obviously means that before the worlds where seperate there is the real world which creates stories and they never interacted, but now fictional characters are in the real world. Altair was able to leave her fictional world and go to the real one, so plot manipulation really not acausality.

As for the resistances to biological manipulation and other stuff, don't think she should have them, altair was never hurt cause she was stronger than everyone, and other characters have shown that holographic thing, for example mamika when she died. In ep 10 what was happening was that she was being erased as she said if she tried to destroy the world, she would be the one erased or something like that. Basically that holographic thing happens every time a character is being erased or dies.

So Cosmic Awareness and Limited Probability Manipulation as upgrades?

Yes but shouldn't her plot manipulation allow her some sort of limited Acausality???

Every Character showed that holographic thing when they were killed or Revised/Upgraded or dissapeared but normally their bodies would act like a normal biological body. Whereas my theory on Altair (and possibly Sirius) not having a Biological Body comes from the Scene in Episode 10 just after the 20:15 mark when she referred to her body being "Physical Image" just when reality was starting to reject her and from the Existence Change scene when Sirius stabs herself and also from Episode 17 where she blocked Selesia's physical attack spell and suddenly her body seemed to show Holographic Distortions which was never shown in other creations cases as their bodies would act normally when hit by a physical attack

If we are on the Topic of Haxes, shouldn't Altair and Sirius have Energy Projection because Sirius hit Altair with a pink energy blast when she debuted.

Plus shouldn't Audience amped Altair have Space-Time Manipulation along with Reality Warping for creating an Entire Universe with different laws specifically to sustain Setsuna's existence???