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Zoro vs Kid

SnookB said:
It could've been him, but I honestly doubt it was Kid. She didn't even make note of his attack, she was complimenting Law the whole time. Otherwise she'd have clarified Kid was the one who cracked her ribs.
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I know, but not only was Law's shockwave only shown hitting her arm and not her ribs when he used it the 2nd time, if Kid didn't break her bones, then Oda's portrayal of him as a rival to Luffy has no basis and he is a Scabbard-level joke.
 
Eseseso said:
I know, but not only was Law's shockwave only shown hitting her arm and not her ribs when he used it the 2nd time, if Kid didn't break her bones, then Oda's portrayal of him as a rival to Luffy has no basis and he is a Scabbard-level joke.
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him being a rival to luffy already has no legitimate basis in the first place.
 
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SnookB said:
It could've been him, but I honestly doubt it was Kid. She didn't even make note of his attack, she was complimenting Law the whole time. Otherwise she'd have clarified Kid was the one who cracked her ribs.
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Yeah, I've always thought it was Law too due to Big Mom's statement.
 
RoronoaxRobin said:
Let places like Reddit and Fanverse tell you, Zoro doesn't have a chance against Kid because of matchup and because Kid defeated a Yonko and Zoro defeated a mere Commander and almost died to his explosion.
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Ah yes, Reddit, the place where Katakuri and Enel are seen as threatening characters worth putting in a vs matchup against actual top/god tiers.
 
Eseseso said:
I know, but not only was Law's shockwave only shown hitting her arm and not her ribs when he used it the 2nd time, if Kid didn't break her bones, then Oda's portrayal of him as a rival to Luffy has no basis and he is a Scabbard-level joke.
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Technically all of the supernovas are Luffy's "rivals". Kid has great LS and pretty good endurance, but I'm honestly over being generous to him. If Big Mom practically ignored him and Law clowned him for using bigger flashy attacks after he does the heavy damaging hits, I'm not gonna defend him anymore.
 
I'm glad Kidd wasn't the one who confronted Blackbeard because then he would have gotten clapped by all 4 of the pre-raid Emperors and that's just sad ngl.
 
SnookB said:
Technically all of the supernovas are Luffy's "rivals". Kid has great LS and pretty good endurance, but I'm honestly over being generous to him. If Big Mom practically ignored him and Law clowned him for using bigger flashy attacks after he does the heavy damaging hits, I'm not gonna defend him anymore.
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Question... The trio, luffy, law and kid... Do they have a name or something? Like the monster trio
 
If Post-Mink Zoro had fought Big Mom alongside both Kid and Law, would they have won without removing Big Mom from the battlefield?

Or, if Post-Mink Zoro had taken either Law's or Kid's spot against Big Mom abd fought alongside the other one against Big Mom, could they still have won?
 
Eminiteable said:
If it was Zoro post-king fight fully healed with no mink medicine time-limit then it's possible.
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Or maybe Post Medicine Zoro fights BM too (and just unlocks Enma and Infusion during the fight) while, say, Yamato fights off King or a still-healthy Killer takes him on, or Drake and Apoo attempt to kill him together.
 
TBF Big Mom was still holding back there. If she used advanced haki and got COMPLETELY serious about the situation ( which she probably would, she knows not to underestimate Zoro and even noted his sword was powerful and strange ) she might win. Though Zoro might be able to behead her or strike a vital organ through some manner of folly.
edit: nvm, she might use Future Sight there assuming she goes all out and I don't think Zoro could get her if she does that.
 
Eminiteable said:
They won't defeat Big Mom without BFR then.
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I mean, even before he unlocked Enma and Haoshoku Infusion, his Asura could still do a lot of damage.

I have no doubt he'd just unlock Enma and Infusion during the fight, and he could keep Prometheus busy which would give Law and Kid openings.

Also, do you think BM used Haoshoku to defend during Kidd's Damned Punk?

Because for some reason a lot of people are saying she did.
 
Eseseso said:
I mean, even before he unlocked Enma and Haoshoku Infusion, his Asura could still do a lot of damage.

I have no doubt he'd just unlock Enma and Infusion during the fight, and he could keep Prometheus busy which would give Law and Kid openings.

Also, do you think BM used Haoshoku to defend during Kidd's Damned Punk?

Because for some reason a lot of people are saying she did.
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1: When did he use Asura before unlocking Haoshoku Infusion?
2: People say she used it during Damned Punk due to the lightning that came out during the attack.
 
Eseseso said:
I mean, even before he unlocked Enma and Haoshoku Infusion, his Asura could still do a lot of damage.

I have no doubt he'd just unlock Enma and Infusion during the fight, and he could keep Prometheus busy which would give Law and Kid openings.

Also, do you think BM used Haoshoku to defend during Kidd's Damned Punk?
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A lot of damage wouldn't defeat her & it would take him out of the fight.

Him discovering the right way to wield Enma and unlocking Hao infusion were a result of Enma unleashing Zoro's haki against his will after reacting to Hiyori's Shamisen, since the fight against Big Mom happens on the live floor this won't happen against her. Cutting Prometheus would be helpful but I don't see it being a deciding factor in defeating her without bfr.

She seemingly used Haoshoku in one panel probably as a way of empowering her soul pocus to steal more souls, doesn't seem like she used it to defend herself or we would have seen it in more than one panel.
 
TheMonkeMan said:
1: When did he use Asura before unlocking Haoshoku Infusion?
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Uh, to scar Hybrid Kaido?
TheMonkeMan said:
2: People say she used it during Damned Punk due to the lightning that came out during the attack.
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I really doubt that, the lightning wasn't black.

Eminiteable said:
A lot of damage wouldn't defeat her & it would take him out of the fight.
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It wasn't what took him out of the fight against Kaido, he was already severely injured from the Hakai.
Eminiteable said:
Him discovering the right way to wield Enma and unlocking Hao infusion were a result of Enma unleashing Zoro's haki against his will after reacting to Hiyori's Shamisen, since the fight against Big Mom happens on the live floor this won't happen against her. Cutting Prometheus would be helpful but I don't see it being a deciding factor in defeating her without bfr.
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Ok, that's fair.

So you think that a Post-King Fight Zoro helping them (let's assume the medicine lasts longer than canon) would let them win without needing BFR?
Eminiteable said:
She seemingly used Haoshoku in one panel probably as a way of empowering her soul pocus to steal more souls, doesn't seem like she used it to defend herself or we would have seen it in more than one panel.
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Ok
 
Eseseso said:
It wasn't what took him out of the fight against Kaido, he was already severely injured from the Hakai.
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The Asura on the roof was the result of all his remaining energy, he fell down after it due to lacking the energy to stand.
Eseseso said:
Ok, that's fair.

So you think that a Post-King Fight Zoro helping them (let's assume the medicine lasts longer than canon) would let them win without needing BFR?
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It's a possibility if he had no time-limit on the medicine. But most likely they would still lose since all three of their best power ups (K.O.H/Awakening) Tax stamina heavily while Big Mom can keep empowering herself with her lifespan and her homies with the souls on the live floor + heal herself.
 
Eminiteable said:
The Asura on the roof was the result of all his remaining energy, he fell down after it due to lacking the energy to stand.
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Yeah, but the Hakai had already injured him badly.

And his Asura would've been stronger than the one on the roof due to his base and base Buso being stronger.
Eminiteable said:
It's a possibility if he had no time-limit on the medicine. But most likely they would still lose since all three of their best power ups (K.O.H/Awakening) Tax stamina heavily while Big Mom can keep empowering herself with her lifespan and her homies with the souls on the live floor + heal herself.
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That's fair, but BM's bones were still broken, and she can only use so many of her own years (since she said that a normal person's lifespan isn't strong enough to really amp her).

If she hadn't avoided the 2nd Punk Corna Dio, it was heavily implied that it would've done severe damage.
 
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Eseseso said:
Uh, to scar Hybrid Kaido?
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