Zeus is up against another Godslayer... | Hearts (SDBH) Vs. Zeus (GOW)

[Spicy78]

Spoiler: BATTLE CONTEXT YAPPING

As Hearts was watching from the battle taking place in Universe 6 from the shadows between Oran and Kamin and Vegeta, Hit, Kale and Caulifla; he noticed what was happening in another universe.

In it, the gods of the so-called "Olympus" ruled supreme over mortals. These gods were mean-spirited by nature, being a bunch of power-hungry fools and warmongers who demanded tribute from mortals and treated them with disdain, as if they were nothing more than cattle.

Therefore, Hearts considered freeing this realm from divine oppresion as a priority before finishing off the Zenos. Hearts appeared in Zeus' Throne Room announcing himself as the mortal who would put an end to the tyranny of the gods; and so, the battle that will decide the fate of the Greek world will begin!

• Hearts is in his Ultimate Godslayer form.
• Zeus is in his base form.
• Battle takes place at Zeus' Throne Room.
• SBA for the rest.
• Speed is equalized.

Olympus will NOT prevail:




Bro thinks he's Kratos :




Doomguy shows up but returns to his verse as he realizes there are no demons in there:

 

[Planck69]

Can Hearts even interact with Zeus? He's a Type 1 concept in this form.

 

[Spicy78]

• Non-Physical Interaction (Ghost, Spirit, Soul - Illusion - Energy - Invisibility, Intangibility - Incorporeality - Space-Time - Abstract Wills, Thoughts, Emotions, Void, Nonexistent [Nature Type 1]): In Heroes multiverse, Ki can interact with ghosts, spirits, souls, illusions, pure energy beings, invisible & intangible ki blasts, abstract wills, thoughts, emotions,the fabric of space-time, and even void itself

this is in ki manipulation, so i think that is the case

 

[Planck69]

Something just being an abstraction doesn't make it a Type 1 concept though.

 

[Robo432343]

Can Hearts even interact with Zeus?

(no)

 

[Spicy78]

Something just being an abstraction doesn't make it a Type 1 concept though.

oh. then he can't interact with zeus. i'll switch him to base

also, care to explain the difference between an abstraction and a concept?

 

[Planck69]

oh. then he can't interact with zeus. i'll switch him to base

also, care to explain the difference between an abstraction and a concept?

Not all abstractions are concepts (in a wiki tierable/indexable way). Concepts are abstractions. Beyond that, a Type 1 concept isn't the same as any mundane abstraction like willpower.

Base Zeus oneshots with any attack and if he dies, just becomes Fear Zeus anyways.

 

[Spicy78]

Base Zeus oneshots with any attack and if he dies, just becomes Fear Zeus anyways.

does he tho? afaik, hearts seems the one to have the upper hand in terms of ap. a huge upper hand at that. low 1-c SDBH characters are infinitely into low 1-c as they're able to effect the entire cosmology, which is composed of an infinite amount of 5d timelines

also, hearts' gravity manip is passive and he can just erase him from history, so there's that

 

[Planck69]

does he tho? afaik, hearts seems the one to have the upper hand in terms of ap. a huge upper hand at that. low 1-c SDBH characters are infinitely into low 1-c as they're able to effect the entire cosmology, which is composed of an infinite amount of 5d timelines

also, hearts' gravity manip is passive and he can just erase him from history, so there's that

All of Zeus' attacks are innately CM Type 1, to clarify, hence the oneshot. I wasn't referring to AP.

Hearts can't erase Type 1 concepts to my knowledge so if the gravity does somehow crush him, we're back at square 1.

Edit: Actually wait, lemme check how history EE works with concepts.

 

[Spicy78]

All of Zeus' attacks are innately CM Type 1, to clarify, hence the oneshot. I wasn't referring to AP.

WHAT??? EVEN SOME BARE PUNCHES??? damn, GOW is cracked even after all these downgrades...

Hearts can't erase Type 1 concepts to my knowledge so if the gravity does somehow crush him, we're back at square 1.

tbf his gravity doesn't work like passively applying LS so an opponent so that they die crushed like an ant, it's more like a gravity-based paralysis inducement. hearts already has telekinesis for that matter

 

[Spicy78]

WHAT??? EVEN SOME BARE PUNCHES??? damn, GOW is cracked even after all these downgrades...

nvm, this got accepted recently. now not every attack inherently effects the soul directly

 

[Planck69]

nvm, this got accepted recently. now not every attack inherently effects the soul directly

Not even sure what that really changed. Mortal characters (all 2 of them) no longer have that but Zeus can destroy souls with his lightning anyways so it doesn't change much.

Edit: And Divine Magic still has mind/soul/concept manipulation lol.

 

[Planck69]

WHAT??? EVEN SOME BARE PUNCHES??? damn, GOW is cracked even after all these downgrades...


tbf his gravity doesn't work like passively applying LS so an opponent so that they die crushed like an ant, it's more like a gravity-based paralysis inducement. hearts already has telekinesis for that matter

So it's just paralysis Inducement? Can't Zeus just teleport away from its range with a thought?