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thank youThere is nothing left to defend about Garou, Zeref is simply winning, there is no need for the debate to continue, it should be closed.
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thank youThere is nothing left to defend about Garou, Zeref is simply winning, there is no need for the debate to continue, it should be closed.
and even accurately predicting the future through sheer mental calculations.Yeah, whatever. I'm not gonna text to this thread from now on.
ntThere is nothing left to defend about Garou, Zeref is simply winning, there is no need for the debate to continue, it should be closed.
This doesn't proves that they are the same LoLDimensional Travel (Is able to travel to the Space Between Time)
Space is also technically a voidTh
This doesn't proves that they are the same LoL
İt isn't math bro , he calculates the moves his opponent does. And as far as we know, this is superior to supercomputer level. And if we took perception speed of Garou, that wouldn't be a problem in battle.and even accurately predicting the future through sheer mental calculations.
making calculations during battle?
"Breaking the limiter allows individuals to grow indefinitely, making them capable of reaching Universe level over time or in the case of Garou, by copying."that still doesn't mean you can copy haxes like fate manip
Not "true void", void and true void is completely different from eachother.Space is also technically a void
Oh good, then we won't have any problems since Garou will drop to Zeref's AP level. If you claim otherwise, can you prove that he will use Zeref's haxes after copying him?Because like Zeref's haxes (fairy hearth,sbt, Ankhseram) These are acquired haxes (like he took possession of FH and Ankhseram came to him through the curse)Never said he could copy Zeref's ankhseram. I'm saying that Garou could completely become "Zeref" due to his context of power mimicry.
What does adjusting your intelligence level and fighting style have to do with it At first you defended me by saying Garou was acting according to his opponent and you throw his intelligence level as proof, shamefulQs i literally said on above, his fighting style differs to person. And Garou has extraordinary genius intellegince.
Extraordinary Genius: Individuals whose knowledge spreads over multiple fields of science and who vastly surpass the real world's upper human limits. At this level, many are capable of creating extremely advanced futuristic technology, executing complex strategies even under high pressure, outperforming supercomputers,[1] and even accurately predicting the future through sheer mental calculations. This is where super scientists of exceptional scientific knowledge begin to appear.
Can you prove that "predicting the future" will reach a clear result? It just means calculating the possibilities Prove that Garou, with his foresight in OPM, understands that a hax he does not know is dangerous for him, thanks to his "foresight", and stays away from it.Could predict future with his current moment. He could predict that this aura is able to kill him
Are you schizophrenic my friend?Literally made you accept 90% of my arguments and i don't know anything
Yes, right now, I want both parties to calm down and dont write. Until the supporter responds, it is not clear who won at the moment. Once the supporter responds, we will announce who won.We need to ask the supporter about this issue. If it is said that Zeref can survive in space, the topic should be closed because it is unnecessary. There is an unnecessary fight, so let's wait for the supporter.
Also i don't think it is about zeref vs garou anymore you're just arguing with me about Garou's copying limits when he doesn't even have a wincon by copying, so let's forget about this issue. Garou's only wincon was bfr and cosmic radiation and if Zeref can breath in space i don't see any wincons for Garou."Breaking the limiter allows individuals to grow indefinitely, making them capable of reaching Universe level over time or in the case of Garou, by copying."
Garou can copy abilities as long as it is 3d as you see. Probably its still just NLF but it is what it is.
What I already mentioned is that you cannot think that fast during war.Anksheram already has a range of hundreds of kilometers, you need to prove to me that the garo's travel speed is fast enough to escape it.İt isn't math bro , he calculates the moves his opponent does. And as far as we know, this is superior to supercomputer level. And if we took perception speed of Garou, that wouldn't be a problem in battle.
You literally can't prove anything, that's what I'm saying. If you really think Zeref can do this without Immortality type 8 conditions, open a thread and fix it.I threw the panel and wrote an explanation, if you cannot give an answer, do not divert the subject and do not write empty content messages
Don't make me repeat what I said, understand what I mean and answer accordingly, I'm talking about how copying these types of haxes does not mean copying every "hax type".Does copying a gravity technique really mean copying a hax that involves death manipulation? This is nice NLFCopying Gravity manipulation, portal and black hole creation haxes is not enough for him to show that he is able to copy haxes?
You're talking like he just copied fighting styles and never copied any haxes. He copied Gravity Manipulation, Black hole creation and Portal creation haxes from Blast and use them at their full power.
I'm not even gonna reply, this is irrevelant with the vs.Don't make me repeat what I said, understand what I mean and answer accordingly, I'm talking about how copying these types of haxes does not mean copying every "hax type".Does copying a gravity technique really mean copying a hax that involves death manipulation? This is nice NLF
.Also i don't think it is about zeref vs garou anymore you're just arguing with me about Garou's copying limits when he doesn't even have a wincon by copying, so let's forget about this issue. Garou's only wincon was bfr and cosmic radiation and if Zeref can breath in space i don't see any wincons for Garou.
The word '',true'' here is used to indicate that no one and nothing can really exist in sbt.Not "true void", void and true void is completely different from eachother.
bro do you think fate manip and fire manip are relevant are you still doing nlf"Breaking the limiter allows individuals to grow indefinitely, making them capable of reaching Universe level over time or in the case of Garou, by copying."
Garou can copy abilities as long as it is 3d as you see. Probably its still just NLF but it is what it is.
I spelled the destroying space part wrong, whatever.When did I say "He will destroy space"? Also, garou does not prefer the earth. Saitama wanted to fight there because he was on earth, and he openly turned a blind eye to the destruction of the world. The world is not an important factor for Garou. It is quite normal for him to destroy the world.(What I mean by destroying the world is that SP^2 can destroy the world and Garou continues without caring about it.)
Just forget about copying thing its not even relevant to the vsbro do you think fate manip and fire manip are relevant are you still doing nlf
.Also i don't think it is about zeref vs garou anymore you're just arguing with me about Garou's copying limits when he doesn't even have a wincon by copying, so let's forget about this issue. Garou's only wincon was bfr and cosmic radiation and if Zeref can breath in space i don't see any wincons for Garou.
Because when I responded to soula about this, you were the one who argued otherwise to meI'm not even gonna reply, this is irrevelant with the vs.
There's something like "stacking" ya know? Garou could mix and use them together. And as far as i sent you, he could copy most of his techniques that depends on magic/physical capabilites.Oh good, then we won't have any problems since Garou will drop to Zeref's AP level. If you claim otherwise, can you prove that he will use Zeref's haxes after copying him?Because like Zeref's haxes (fairy hearth,sbt, Ankhseram) These are acquired haxes (like he took possession of FH and Ankhseram came to him through the curse)
Literally said in the context that Garou could "predict" future with that kind of intelligence..What does adjusting your intelligence level and fighting style have to do with it At first you defended me by saying Garou was acting according to his opponent and you throw his intelligence level as proof, shameful
Can you prove that "predicting the future" will reach a clear result? It just means calculating the possibilities
accurately predicting the future through sheer mental calculations.
Yeah, nothing to say anymore i guess.accurately
So you're saying extraordinary genius intelligence differs to context? Oh noProve that Garou, with his foresight in OPM, understands that a hax he does not know is dangerous for him, thanks to his "foresight", and stays away from it.
Is it because I argued with you?Oh good, then we won't have any problems since Garou will drop to Zeref's AP level. If you claim otherwise, can you prove that he will use Zeref's haxes after copying him?Because like Zeref's haxes (fairy hearth,sbt, Ankhseram) These are acquired haxes (like he took possession of FH and Ankhseram came to him through the curse)
What does adjusting your intelligence level and fighting style have to do with it At first you defended me by saying Garou was acting according to his opponent and you throw his intelligence level as proof, shameful
Can you prove that "predicting the future" will reach a clear result? It just means calculating the possibilities Prove that Garou, with his foresight in OPM, understands that a hax he does not know is dangerous for him, thanks to his "foresight", and stays away from it.
Are you schizophrenic my friend?
Perception speed exists for a reason tho.What I already mentioned is that you cannot think that fast during war.
And that... Literally asked for Anksheram's spreading speed for 5 times. Just answer it and prove it.And i answer your problem tooAnksheram already has a range of hundreds of kilometers, you need to prove to me that the garo's travel speed is fast enough to escape it.
I don't even know how end up arguing about Garou's copy limits tbh, i'm just a Garou glazer and may do nlfs when the subject is Garou's limits. I always try to not be one-sided, but Garou is my favorite character. My vote is for Zeref if he's able to breath in space, if can't then my vote stays at Garou.Because when I responded to soula about this, you were the one who argued otherwise to me
The moment of the incident takes place in the world anyway. What does this have to do with Garo's wishes? He saw Saitama, threw Genos's cube at him, and then he suddenly attacked garou, so it has nothing to do with it. Also, Garou can destroy the world by just grb alone. The clash of fists was what was going to destroy the world. It is not specific to Garou and saitama's battle, he can easily do it on his own.I spelled the destroying space part wrong, whatever.
And if Garou let Saitama fight on Earth, why is he taking Zeref to space? Also, correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't the clash between him and Saitama the thing that would destroy the world?
I have already told you that you need to prove that Garou will think so quickly during the war and be aware of Anksheram. You also need to prove that he has such a fast travel speed to escape.And you don't have any wincon right now, Zeref will win even if he waits in his place.And that... Literally asked for Anksheram's spreading speed for 5 times. Just answer it and prove it.And i answer your problem too
Literally in the profile says Garou has MFTL speed, and having extraordinary intelligence+ having superiority over perception speed is more than enough due to speed difference.I have already told you that you need to prove that Garou will think so quickly during the war and be aware of Anksheram. You also need to prove that he has such a fast travel speed to escape.And you don't have any wincon right now, Zeref will win even if he waits in his place.
Yes, you really have schizophrenia. The techniques that Garou was able to copy throughout the series were techniques such as creating portals and gravity MP, nothing else.Don't say things you made up in your own mind anymore, because with this level of intelligence, no one cares about any comments you make, just provide evidence.There's something like "stacking" ya know? Garou could mix and use them together. And as far as i sent you, he could copy most of his techniques that depends on magic/physical capabilites.
Look, smart man, there is a difference between predicting something with intelligence and understanding what does this hax do? So, what is the importance of the information analysis hax in vsb then? You don't have any knowledge about any subject and you only talk about a few articles out of context. You are the one who needs to get out of this vst because you have no knowledge about this subjectLiterally said in the context that Garou could "predict" future with that kind of intelligence..
And never used his intelligence level as proof, its just another evidence that's why Garou doesn't get close. Which is what our discussion about. And i just explained why Garou acts differently according to opponent. Stop embarrasing yourself and get out of this VST please.
Don't twist what I said, we are talking about whether garou knows what zeref's hax could mean for him or not, you really don't know anything.Yeah, nothing to say anymore i guess.
So you're saying extraordinary genius
Yes, the world would be destroyed by the force released as a result of a collision, but such a thing will not happen with Zeref because Garou's AP will crush Zeref.The moment of the incident takes place in the world anyway. What does this have to do with Garo's wishes? He saw Saitama, threw Genos's cube at him, and then he suddenly attacked garou, so it has nothing to do with it. Also, Garou can destroy the world by just grb alone. The clash of fists was what was going to destroy the world. It is not specific to Garou and saitama's battle, he can easily do it on his own.
I asked you to prove travel speed and you are proving me attack speed lol. Yes, he has extraordinary intelligence, but you have to prove whether he can think that fast during the battle. As I told you, you have to prove that Garou has such a high travel speed that he can think while attacking and escape at the same time.And as soon as Garou gets within 100 kilometers of Zeref, Anksheram will come into play. Garou has to get close to fight anyway, as a result, Anksheram will cause all kinds of damage. Anyway, if Garou does not get close and does not attack closely, Zeref can use Neo Eclipse to delete Garou because Garou cannot kill Zeref in any way, the only wincon you had was to send him to space, but this has also been refuted, you do not have any wincon now.Literally in the profile says Garou has MFTL speed, and having extraordinary intelligence+ having superiority over perception speed is more than enough due to speed difference.
And as i mentioned before, why does Garou has to escape from Anksheram while you didn't even gave me its spreading speed and i can take it as immobile in this situation. Stop making me repeat myself.
He doesn't need to fight his fists with Zeref to destroy the world bro, how many times will I tell you this? grb is enoughYes, the world would be destroyed by the force released as a result of a collision, but such a thing will not happen with Zeref because Garou's AP will crush Zeref.
Gained knowledge on the behavior of all forces and flow of all energy in the universe, and applied this knowledge through replicating complex natural phenomena such as nuclear fission and gamma ray bursts. His aptitude for martial arts and fighting has increased to the point that he can perfectly mimic both the power and technique of others, including those that can manipulate the reality of the cosmos, in a single glance, and further improve them to perfection past their original states. Garou has stated that his fist is beyond timing, and that all of his strikes are completely unavoidable.Yes, you really have schizophrenia. The techniques that Garou was able to copy throughout the series were techniques such as creating portals and gravity MP, nothing else.Don't say things you made up in your own mind anymore, because with this level of intelligence, no one cares about any comments you make, just provide evidence.
My dear friend, my intelligent companion. The 'Information Analysis Hack' examines the enemy's abilities, strength, speed, and intelligence. I already know that this ability is sufficient to learn Zeref's abilities, my intelligent friend. What I'm talking about is Garou being able to accurately calculate the 'future' based on the situation he is in and the conditions he has settled in. So, according to this analogy, he should also know what will happen when Zeref approaches. He would accurately calculate what does his aura/Anksheram hax would do to hım if he gets close my dear wise friendLook, smart man, there is a difference between predicting something with intelligence and understanding what does this hax do? So, what is the importance of the information analysis hax in vsb then? You don't have any knowledge about any subject and you only talk about a few articles out of context. You are the one who needs to get out of this vst because you have no knowledge about this subject
"Can you prove that "predicting the future" will reach a clear result? It just means calculating the possibilities", you're the one who just said that and literally proved it with embarrasing you LOL. Please stop ashaming yourself.Don't twist what I said, we are talking about whether garou knows what zeref's hax could mean for him or not, you really don't know anything.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...e-Punch_Man:_Saitama_and_Garou_Jump_Around_IoI asked you to prove travel speed and you are proving me attack speed lol.
Literally mentioned their difference in perception speed..Yes, he has extraordinary intelligence, but you have to prove whether he can think that fast during the battle.
You can't say that without spreading speed. It's super slow for to catch Garou in battle.And as soon as Garou gets within 100 kilometers of Zeref, Anksheram will come into play. Garou has to get close to fight anyway, as a result, Anksheram will cause all kinds of damage.
Zeref ain't gonna use Neo Eclipse due to in-character rules. I'm fully agree that Garou has no wincons neither Zeref. It's incon i believe.Zeref can use Neo Eclipse to delete Garou because Garou cannot kill Zeref in any way, the only wincon you had was to send him to space, but this has also been refuted, you do not have any wincon now.
He can but it's not in character for garou to destroy it.He doesn't need to fight his fists with Zeref to destroy the world bro, how many times will I tell you this? grb is enough
my brother still can't understand the difference between attack speed and travel speed xdhttps://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...e-Punch_Man:_Saitama_and_Garou_Jump_Around_Io
Now please provide me with speed of Anksheram's spreading, this is the 10th time i'm asking for it.
He already has to come close to fight otherwise zeref will delete it with neo eclipseYou can't say that without spreading speed. It's super slow for to catch Garou in battle.
No, there is no such rule. Only if they were both bloodthirsty, Zeref could use Neo Eclipse as a starting attack. Since it is not like this, there is no starting attack, but according to your logic, if Garou walks away from the battle, Zeref can easily delete him with Neo Eclipse. There is no such rule. There was even a written rule that they would be close to each other on the battlefield.Zeref ain't gonna use Neo Eclipse due to in-character rules. I'm fully agree that Garou has no wincons neither Zeref. It's incon i believe.
They took that personally, lol.How the heck this have 5 pages, what kinda mental gysnastic you all doing for Garou to even have a chance?