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Zeno vs Gold Experience Requiem 🔥
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Ok cool, now post what was actually asked instead of a completely irrelevant topic just to hyperinflate something that has shown 100% of the time, nearly two dozen times on screen, to not behave that way.
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So you're telling me Zamasu has not High Godly?
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Jojo fans with your Omni-Denial
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Is 10-5 grace?
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Zamasu isn't fighting here, but Zeno, You don't like it? Go make a crt to change Zeno's profile.
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Anyways, wouldn’t this be an icon rather than a stomp in Giorno’s favor?
I doubt GER can get a Dart Frog on Zeno by the time Zeno squishes, and by then RtZ would’ve activated, so that’s back to square one.
Even if a Dart Frog manages to land on Zeno, the poison will take like 10 minutes to kill, which again, leads to the scenario above where Zeno tries to squish, and RtZ activates.
I doubt GER can get a Dart Frog on Zeno by the time Zeno squishes, and by then RtZ would’ve activated, so that’s back to square one.
Even if a Dart Frog manages to land on Zeno, the poison will take like 10 minutes to kill, which again, leads to the scenario above where Zeno tries to squish, and RtZ activates.
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But Zamasu got High Godly right because of Zeno's erasure. It's retroactively accepted that it's something Zeno can do.
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Zeno being in a state of infinite loops is an incap tbh
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For real.
"What is accepted in the verse does not matter!" oh come on, then why has Zamasu High Godly if Zeno does not erase from history?
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It's not in the profile, it doesn't matter.
Vietthai96
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this match was a mistake ngl
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It is literally Zen'ō erasing Giorno and his 3D Ger in all timelines
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Wdym? RTZ doesn't NEED to affect all of reality, we see a few times that RTZ stopped only a specific thing while letting the rest continue on, notably Diavolo's death
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"Zamasu has High Godly despite being erased from Zeno despite Zeno can't erase on a level that needs High Godly".
Genius.
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Next matchup is entire DBS verse vs wonder of u
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Is Zamasu fighting here? Show me on Zeno's profile.
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Im telling you to stop pretending Zeno's shit works in a way it evidently doesn't, hasn't and consistently 100% of the time, so many times in fact, that it can't be handwaved as a one or even two-off.
Using Zamasu as a crutch won't change that, nor does it effect the profile we're using.
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It literally does, it's why is even accepted to be High Godly in the 1st place.
I am going to unironically bring this in RvR if you guys keep ignoring shit that debunks you.
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Oh.
Fezzih_007
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What you confused about, my question is very clear.
So your making me confused now, because first i din't say RTZ affectes everything, nor do i assume so when i ask my question.
But don't GER affects everything, even without being dangerous to him, like when he revert Mista and Trish actions?
Só you know, Giorno can't actually tag Zeno then, due to the speed difference. He gonna be able to react to try to affect Zeno.
When Diavolo and Giorno are fighting, Diavolo used time Skip and trows blood at Giorno eyes. If what you saying is true, that would't happen at the first place right? Since blood would still bê counted as harmfull.
So like, what happens If Zeno did use his EE on Giorno?
Not sure If they are the same thing trought, RTZ is reversing a "normal" punch while, this is a 5D attack, that don't travel and affects you in all History.
But ehhhhhh okay, If they count.
2017, but why?
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Ha, are you going to self-report yourself for using something that doesn't exist in the profile? what humility.
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But is accepted trought, so It doest matter If is not on his profile.
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Pretty sure he’s talking about the immeasurable speed
Fezzih_007
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Ah okay.
I have to make a CRT to add that then.
There's is a inconsistency, so you might be hard.
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I was talking about history erasure.
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You did by mentioning time skip.
Because RTZ affected the whole universe in that instance because he restored lost time? Like idk I thought that kinda spoke for itself.
Semi-automatic, RTZ has Infinite speed, GER doesn't need to react, RTZ can for him.
Not true actually because that blood doesn't exist. It's an image of blood, which is why he can layer it. The moment the blood leaves him, it ceases to be real (untill time skip ends, then it becomes real).
That's also why Diavolo can't interact with things in time skip btw, and why blood is an exception, it becomes just like everything else.
My brother in christ, big dick EE is obviously HARMFUL to Gio. RTZ will kick in the moment before Zeno uses it, and stop him.
What? We went through five pages of this, he isn't RTZ'ing the EE, he's Rtz'ing Zeno using it, Zeno is only 3D physically, unironically below Time Skip which is 4D, which RTZ can effect.
It's like RTZ'ing a dude a detonating the bomb, who gives a shit about the bomb if the dudes fingers can't press the button.
Because it's old, wrong, and lacks the ludicrous amount of info we've learned over the past few years. It's just extremely outdated is all.
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Not you, lynierz.
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That's not what I'm talking about.
RtZ can make Zeno lose his will to fight. That counts as incap. The loop is just an extra.
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Diavolo dying infinitely didn't put them in a loop, why would this? Just set that action to 0 instead of everything else.
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Sigh can we all just agree to incon and be done with it?
I understand both arguments being made here and ultimately what it boils done to is Zeno’s EE being untriggerable
This is basically the Situation:
Zeno: “Alright all I need to do is raise my hand and squish and we’ll be done”
Zeno: raises hand
GER: “Oh no you don’t, put that hand back down”
Zeno: lowers hand
Zeno: raises hand again
GER: “I said lower that hand”
Zeno: lowers hand
Zeno: raises hand yet again
GER: “I SAID DOWN”
And that’s pretty much how it loops from there
Zeno basically has a gun but RtZ prevents him from pulling the trigger to fire. And everytime Zeno attempts to fire the gun the action of pulling the trigger is reverted
Ultimately IF Zeno’s EE were to go off then it would be GG’s from there. But RtZ is preventing the act of EE from even happening. Not by nulling EE but just reverting Zeno’s actions so he never triggers it.
GER can’t harm Zeno either so this is pretty much incon
The only plausible wincon I could see for Zeno is for him to just sit there and do nothing like Sans lol. And just allow time and old age to catch up with Gio and kill him since Zeno will definitely outlive him
I understand both arguments being made here and ultimately what it boils done to is Zeno’s EE being untriggerable
This is basically the Situation:
Zeno: “Alright all I need to do is raise my hand and squish and we’ll be done”
Zeno: raises hand
GER: “Oh no you don’t, put that hand back down”
Zeno: lowers hand
Zeno: raises hand again
GER: “I said lower that hand”
Zeno: lowers hand
Zeno: raises hand yet again
GER: “I SAID DOWN”
And that’s pretty much how it loops from there
Zeno basically has a gun but RtZ prevents him from pulling the trigger to fire. And everytime Zeno attempts to fire the gun the action of pulling the trigger is reverted
Ultimately IF Zeno’s EE were to go off then it would be GG’s from there. But RtZ is preventing the act of EE from even happening. Not by nulling EE but just reverting Zeno’s actions so he never triggers it.
GER can’t harm Zeno either so this is pretty much incon
The only plausible wincon I could see for Zeno is for him to just sit there and do nothing like Sans lol. And just allow time and old age to catch up with Gio and kill him since Zeno will definitely outlive him
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Trapping a character in a permanent timeloop that doesn't effect the user is a viable incap afaik. Plus as was stated earlier, Zeno has no immunity to poison.
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I din't meant that way trought.
But you just said that timeskip is not harmfull to Giorno.
It really don't.
That comment is more like about Giorno using Poison to affect Zeno, and my response being Zeno can just avoid with his speed. If GER automatic defense only activates when something is about to harm him, then i don't see why Zeno moving só fast that Giorno can't even react anymore to actually reset his actions to Zero.
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Is this your cathphrase, because almost every reply have a "what?"
I just said is fine, that yeah It would affect him, don't need to repeat yourself now.
Can just nuke that out of his page then? Because
This is already bigger.
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It really is not since GER can’t do anything decisive to win nor harm nor is he really doing that stops Zeno from doing anything really.
Death loop also can’t be triggered due to not being able to kill Zeno
1. Poison him how from 4KM away?
2. Gio tries to go for Poison, Zeno counters, RTZ gets triggered. Both characters are back to square 1.
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