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Zeno vs Gold Experience Requiem 🔥

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Zen'ō (Anime)

Zen'ō (全王ぜんおう?, lit. "Omni-King") is the king of all of the twelve universes in the Dragon Ball multiverse. Although child-like in appearance and personality, his power is feared by even the Angels and the Gods of Destruction, having destroyed six of the original eighteen universes in a fit of...
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Giorno Giovanna

Giorno Giovanna is the illegitimate son of Dio Brando in Jonathan Joestar's body, and is the fifth "JoJo" in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and the main protagonist of Part V: Vento Aureo. Born in Japan as Haruno Shiobana, he moves with his mother to Italy when she marries his new stepfather. Years...
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Giorno: 10
Zeno: 5
Incon: 4
 
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Robo432343 said:
zeno doesn't have resistance to rtz
he just has 5D AP, its not like he is a higher dimensional being
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Return to Zero: GER can take the entirety of something and revert it to a previous state. This includes any action the target takes and leaves GER unaffected by it (i.e., Giorno would be affected by time stop, but GER would not). This puts anything it affects in a constant loop of being put back to zero depending on what GER has done to the target. If GER was to kill a target, they would be constantly put in an infinite loop of deaths[28], each one varying from the next[30]. The ability can be described as taking the "effect" out of "cause and effect".
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This has nothing to do with resistance or hde, the only thing that will happen in the battle is zeno will erase his opponent with 5d e.e and ger cannot counter this with a 4d causality hax.
 
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oh shit i just realized
zeno's EE would happen first and then GER would try to revert that🤦‍♂️
 
wait actually
as zeno is trying to activate a ki blast, he would go back to his original state
 
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LuffyRuffy46307 said:
I was looking, if Ger has an infinite loop death thing that creates alternate Universes where you died, wouldn't that make Giorno at least 2-C?
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That's moreso through Hax at most, and the nature of these alternate realities is also vague whenever is something made specifically for Diavolo or Diavolo forcefully travelling in alternate universes to become the "protagonist" of these death scenes.

Jojo does not really follow an UES despite Stands are made from the mental/spiritual energy of the user, that's odd but that's what happens when you lack evidence.
 
StrymULTRA said:
That's moreso through Hax at most, and the nature of these alternate realities is also vague whenever is something made specifically for Diavolo or Diavolo forcefully travelling in alternate universes to become the "protagonist" of these death scenes.

Jojo does not really follow an UES despite Stands are made from the mental/spiritual energy of the user, that's odd but that's what happens when you lack evidence.
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Wow, I really have to take some time to watch Jojo, it's a shame the energy in the verse isn't UES.
 
Me, when Hamon is an UES:
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Robo432343 said:
wait actually
as zeno is widening his arms to activate a ki blast, he would go back to his original state
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Hmmm if ger can really do this my vote goes to incon

But i think ger needs to contact with the enemy before he can rtz we have no evidence to support him being able to just "rtz ez" on anyone at any given time.
example:

I'm neutral for now
 
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Zeno isn't 4-D nor is he Acausal so Causality manipulation still screws him over.


Better question is if Zeno's EE works faster than RtZ.
 
LordGinSama said:
Zeno isn't 4-D nor is he Acausal so Causality manipulation still screws him over.


Better question is if Zeno's EE works faster than RtZ.
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Even if Zeno were existentially 4D, RTZ would still work (It's a 4D hax). Regarding the second point, I believe we should await comments from JoJo-knowledgeable members, like Chariot.
 
Giorno is faster so I think Giorno will have the upper hand with his speed.
 
zeinx said:
Giorno is faster so I think Giorno will have the upper hand with his speed.
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How much faster is Giorno? Cause Zeno is in the sextillions to nonillion range for speed while Giorno's is like in the vague MFTL+ range
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
That's the attack speed of RtZ

GER still needs to take time to activate his ability, and Zeno is inconceivably faster

Zeno speed blitzes and wins
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GER does not need to manually activate RTZ, given that it activated and reverted time erasure whilst Giorno and GER itself were not even cognizant during it
 
I really curious, to How is this not Inconclusive.
Like, what Giorno can do against Zeno exactly?
 
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