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Timelines do not exist parallel to dragon ball universes, universes exist parallel to each other with their own time axis, the timeline is encompassing these as if it were "hypertime"
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Zeno Low 1-C?
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This is not a good argument, however these cosmologies should be low 1-C as well since an additional time axis (which by Wiki standards is infinite uncountable) is spanning structures Low 2-C (4D)
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We are not talking about alternative timelines, but about a hypertime that encompasses other timelines/space-time continuums.
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I am aware, Is there any proof of hyper timeline in DB? Because just having a Timeline that contains several spacetime continuum is our default standard for the multiverse and not Low 1-C.
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If it works like any Low 2-C structure then it must be Low 1-C.
Low 2-C (space-time continuum) contains instantaneous transfinites of a 3-A structure, in this case it is the same only instead of 3-A structures it is 2-C and therefore the timeline would be Low 1-C.
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No since you misunderstood the point being made. Super set timeline that contains the subset of smaller timeline all shares same Time dimension, I repeat, same not different and they all are spacetime continuums that has 3D spaces perpendicular to one Time dimension. The Low 2-C structure and 2-C structure is entirely same with no variation.
Low 2-C contains transfinite number of 3-A slices and 2-C contains contains many Low 2-C structure each parallel to one another with transfinite number of 3-A slices separated over insignificant 5D axis.
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Here you go for better understanding or to visualise how it works. I gotta go.
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Yes in the series itself.
Can you pass me where that standard is mentioned? The timeline is simply not a larger space containing multiple space-time continuums so it is not just 2-C.
It must work the same as a Low 2-C structure therefore it is Low 1-C.
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Here you go for better understanding or to visualise how it works. I gotta go.
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They do not share the same temporal dimension because that same dimension contains the others.
The "5 axis" is the space that contains the universes, the timeline is not that 5 axis.
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In that post he talks about alternative lines, not a hyper timeline.Here you go for better understanding or to visualise how it works. I gotta go.
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Sorry but thats not how it works, the space itself will need to have two time axes, not be a space with one time axis containing multiple spacetimes.
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Isn't that exactly how it works? a space that contains the universes that also contains its own time axis.
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Um what? where was it stated that it has to have two time axes?
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No. Just so yk, idc about DB, my replies are in general. Our default standard is that multiverse has single Time dimension. As has been shown above and stated multiple times by DT.
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I think it's possible to make DB 2-A/ low 1-C, but not now as the wiki treats DB so rigidly
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You are focusing too much on the contents of the space, and not the properties of the space itself. Regardless of what the space contains, it still only has 4 axes of spacetime, not 5.
low 1-C is for having 5 axes of spacetime. To claim that the multiverse is Low 1-C because of multiple timelines, you have to show that it has at least 2 axes of time.
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If it was possible even a little bit then I would have made Ben 10 Universes Tier 1 long ago as Ben 10 Universe has been accepted to be work same as DB.
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no one said about multiple timelines to get tier 1, the thing is, a large timeline contain universal space-times, space-time with universal size is already accepted as 4D construct, thus larger timeline require 5d space to contain those space-times, now it is also a timeline, so the entire timeline is uncountable infinite amount of 4D constructs and the 5D space, thus low 1-C
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Dragon Ball works with quantum mechanics, but do you think this is possible for Ben 10?
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All you gotta do is prove there is a 2nd temporal dimension.
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Ben 10 works under quantum mechanics too Although that part is irrelevant to Tier 1.
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Calm down girl.
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Oh
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Ben 10 Single Universe works exactly same as Dragonball single Timeline.
Universe contains infinite spacetime continuums. -Ben 10.
Timeline contains 12 Universes. -Dragonball.
They only differ by numbers. I cannot upgrade any of them as that's not enough, we need a proof that there are multiple time Axis which lacking in both.
Universe contains infinite spacetime continuums. -Ben 10.
Timeline contains 12 Universes. -Dragonball.
They only differ by numbers. I cannot upgrade any of them as that's not enough, we need a proof that there are multiple time Axis which lacking in both.
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time axes you mean dimension that is equal to time? Or different like time passing faster inside?
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A Time axis entirely separate from already existing Time axis. A verse working under multiple time Axis are hard one to get, just different time flow is not enough.
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This is not a db case in anyway, it is a wiki case that would apply to any verse here
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It's not a "different" time stream it's a "bigger" time stream
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These two examples are different cases
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those are separate singular timelines with their own spaces.
you need to prove a singular space, has two time axes.
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Each of these timelines is carrying several low 2-C (4D) structures, this is pretty much the main argument, his scans with Trunks' statements only make it clearer that the "time" of a timeline is different from the present time in the macro cosmos of universe 7
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The argument is that 4D structures that have their own time axis are inside another time axis, so timelines contain 3 spatial dimensions and 2 temporal dimensions.
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? that is not whats happening here a Universe is 3D space and then uncountable infinite snapshots of that 3D space making it 4D and there is more than like 54+ of these 4D structures and then another timeline that replicates the multiverse with an additional time axis which would make uncountably infinite snapshots of the 4D structures
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Infinite snapshots x finite number x infinite snapshots = same infinity
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Am I the only one who thinks DB needs another cosmology overhaul, or am I going crazy?
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