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Said Armored Hati was a Notorious variant, I’d put that thing as, if not more, powerful as the prologue Dulluhan
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Zenless Zone Zero Discussion Thread
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Yeah...still no eval'ed calc
Should start to really bother some calc members on that then lol.
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Oh yeah, it was. It's also the one you fight first, so it's likely the one who took down the door mentioned here.
Granted, it doesn't say what kind of door it is but I'm very much assuming it's your standard door and given the kind of place they were in, it should be the one that makes it wall level for destroying it.
If we are scaling that above the prologue/newly born Dullahan, that's an alright wall level ladder we can go up from there.
Granted, it doesn't say what kind of door it is but I'm very much assuming it's your standard door and given the kind of place they were in, it should be the one that makes it wall level for destroying it.
If we are scaling that above the prologue/newly born Dullahan, that's an alright wall level ladder we can go up from there.
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Anyways IDK if you guys have tried but I'm slowly trying to find more ways to easier categorize the characters for more lower end feats (although I don't really want to make too many low ends for them either lol, much less for Void Hunters like Miyabi lol).
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I just need feats to calc, but I think we might be able to work with some other ones like Ben's weapon, which is basically a rocket powered concrete block. There's also Corrin's sawing feat ig since she fought alongside Nekomata. I'll be able to calc small things like those and they're relatively simple. For the others, we likely have to dig deep into the lore, such as thegangasters and how strong their weapons are.
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If scaling Notorious (Mini boss variants) Ethereals above Prologue Dulluhan, wouldn’t it be 9-A scaling ladder given that Dulluhan was an issue for Anby and Billy?
By the way, could we count the fodder enemies, like those common Ethereals or human enemies you’d fight in groups, as being able to destroy wooden crates in battle as a feat to use for them?
By the way, could we count the fodder enemies, like those common Ethereals or human enemies you’d fight in groups, as being able to destroy wooden crates in battle as a feat to use for them?
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Imo destructibles count but wanna here your guys' thoughts? Cause we do see mission segments where they do have to break past barricades and such
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That one completely crossed my mind but I'm alright with that. It's another good supporting feats for the Agents to scale to and up from.
Possibly? The gap between baseline Wall (9-B) to Small Building (9-A) is nearly x1395. I mentioned before that I'm not all calc'y swave but just knocking down a door is solidly wall level that I can understand. Destroying it altogether is surely above that but idk how close it is to baseline 9-A.
If the calc's were evaluated, we'd have them as supporting feats but as things are, nobody is commenting on them so this is the next best thing but I really feel like there's other feats of the same level I could find to scale the Agents off for now.
Otherwise, yeah destroying wooden crates and defeating mid-high level Ethereals that can destroy a whole door down, even low-level ones that can punch through doors is what I've gotten. Other stuff we got too like S11 leaving a somewhat sizeable gash cut on a riot shield but idk where that falls under in terms of AP.
If the calc's were evaluated, we'd have them as supporting feats but as things are, nobody is commenting on them so this is the next best thing but I really feel like there's other feats of the same level I could find to scale the Agents off for now.
Otherwise, yeah destroying wooden crates and defeating mid-high level Ethereals that can destroy a whole door down, even low-level ones that can punch through doors is what I've gotten. Other stuff we got too like S11 leaving a somewhat sizeable gash cut on a riot shield but idk where that falls under in terms of AP.
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We should get pics of obstacles then just so we have a good idea what they look like. Here are some more ideas I have:
I'll try to get a better look of Ben's weapon and then we can see how strong he is
- While not universal, Blastcrawlers can also be used as a good basis through explosive radius calculation, or any other ethereal with a blast radius explosive
- Nineveh's Tornado
- If Pulchra ends up scaling or fighting other characters, they'd be comparable to Burnice surviving the explosion by transitive property
- Rampant Brutes apparently wear construction equipment that looks heavy enough to crush bodybuilders but the vagueness of the statement makes it more supportive
I'll try to get a better look of Ben's weapon and then we can see how strong he is
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Yeah but I need a reference like a character standing right next to it to get its dimensions. Can't access ZZZ right now
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