Zenless Zone Zero Discussion Thread

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

Ok since it’s afaik finished, I’ll wait awhile for the DEB calcs to get approved and get Nicole, Nekomata and Billy done to post at around the same time after DEB

Yeah, Soldier 11 beating a mini boss mech by herself stood out to me as impressive feat since playing through that Agent story the first time.

Not completely sure were to scale mini boss Ethereal myself but maybe to Anby and Billy via that new born Dulluhan that they couldn’t beat in their first encounter, though I don’t think it should scale to non mini boss Dulluhan’s as Billy I believe noted it’s Ether activity was still increasing and it had a boss health bar next time we fight it, we could say it was becoming a Notorious Dulluhan.

I think Naito might have posted the blog on the Calc Evaluation thead but in case they didn't, I put it for them since I doubt any would actually look at it with so many calcs made in a day if not weekly basic.

Yeah. And probably just scale to the normal Dullahan type then. Anby and Billy can take on normal Ethreals but not this newly born one, though I KINDA assume it could also be from them having to fight however long they were in there and even more with them having fallen into a Hollow after getting a rocket launched at them at the beginning of the game lol. Still, Dullahan's ARE big Ethereals. I would have probably scaled the Typhon mech more to the clearly big ones like the Goblin and Farbauti enemies. But there isn't any good intel on them besides the whole "their weapons/attacks are deadly" type. It could be in any of the main or side story gameplay but nothing's really clicking so I don't really have much else to consider what would scale a Typhon to on "large Ethreals".

 

[Infinity_Dragon]

I think Naito might have posted the blog on the Calc Evaluation thead but in case they didn't, I put it for them since I doubt any would actually look at it with so many calcs made in a day if not weekly basic.

Yeah. And probably just scale to the normal Dullahan type then. Anby and Billy can take on normal Ethreals but not this newly born one, though I KINDA assume it could also be from them having to fight however long they were in there and even more with them having fallen into a Hollow after getting a rocket launched at them at the beginning of the game lol. Still, Dullahan's ARE big Ethereals. I would have probably scaled the Typhon mech more to the clearly big ones like the Goblin and Farbauti enemies. But there isn't any good intel on them besides the whole "their weapons/attacks are deadly" type. It could be in any of the main or side story gameplay but nothing's really clicking so I don't really have much else to consider what would scale a Typhon to on "large Ethreals".

K, do inform me if it’s accepted and I’ll post DEB as soon as I can.

Yeah, Billy and Anby retreating can be more attributed to the fact their were unexpectedly dropped into a Hollow and then had to face a notably powerful Ethereal, wasting too much energy, and bullets in Billy’s case, would be dangerous given they had no way to escape the Hollow.
Still think it’s a good scaling as it did still fight and endure hits from them even prior to further growing in power, Notorious versions of Ethereals like Dulluhan (obviously), Hati and Thanatos as well as the Marionettes (Individually) and Thracian should imo scale above that specific newborn Dulluhan.

Yeah, by larger Ethereals I assumed it’s more safe to have it mean ones such regular Dulluhan, Farbauti and Goblins. Wouldn’t the idea it can face a Notorious Ethereal but until we have such scaling, probably best just to scale it above wherever we have Guardians at.

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

Will do.

Although now that I think about it, I kinda now realized we don't have another low end way of tiering the characters.

I meant more like where those like the normal Ethereals would scale to so that we have a lower end baseline for the Agents and whatnot to scale up from.

I wanna say they're like Street to maybe Wall level, but the higher up scale for normals is a bit beyond me. One thing I kinda remember is Yao's animation character teaser of when she was being rescued and one Ethereal was strong enough to stab through a metal door to shank someone and there was at least something in Chapter 3 where Ellen said she and Corin could knock down a metal door.

Other than that, that's all I could really get.

 

[Cimafranca133]

I need to catch up to the games... but after I do, I'll start making profiles for characters nobody plans on making.

 

[Sooshirohl]

finished making a profile for grace. first time making a character profile so if there's anything i should touch up or improve feel free to lmk. if nobody else wants to claim them, i might make profiles for the rest of belobog just to knock them out

 

[Voidnether]

finished making a profile for grace. first time making a character profile so if there's anything i should touch up or improve feel free to lmk. if nobody else wants to claim them, i might make profiles for the rest of belobog just to knock them out

Add the references and it's good to go, you honestly did a good job on the profile not gonna lie.

 

[Sooshirohl]

Add the references and it's good to go, you honestly did a good job on the profile not gonna lie.

thanks lol, just used some of the other profiles people made as reference. went back and added some references, so i think it should be all good now