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That... is how it works???Cropfist said:
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Yujiro Hanma vs Homelander (GRACE)
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Also Homelander is gettin g downgraded anyway so this is a stomp
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It's literally listed on Yujiro's page that the move Stomp amps him by 3-4x, and there are plenty of moves that amp waaaay higher than thatCropfist said:
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That's wrong, he scales vastly above 65KT and that's only with DB, not with any of his amping moves (other than DB itself)Cropfist said:
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How does Stomp work? I'm checking out the page of the sumo guy who makes earthquakes but I'm not sure if it's quite what it says. Pulling off my vote for now since a debate is going on.
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Just a note, someone's gotta edit that title since it isn't Grace anymore.
Also gonna say that it's unlikely defensive Xiao Lee is gonna help and Yujiro 's attack reflection is apparently Aiki. Had to manually look for this myself, but it can only apply to melee attacks. So lasers and AOE/shockwave attacks are still an option. Gonna change my vote to Homelander since I was wrong about the AP situation
There's also flying and picking him up, and even if Yujiro escapes that, just laser him on the way down
Also gonna say that it's unlikely defensive Xiao Lee is gonna help and Yujiro 's attack reflection is apparently Aiki. Had to manually look for this myself, but it can only apply to melee attacks. So lasers and AOE/shockwave attacks are still an option. Gonna change my vote to Homelander since I was wrong about the AP situation
There's also flying and picking him up, and even if Yujiro escapes that, just laser him on the way down
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Defensive Xiao Lee still works with shockwaves btw
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And Yujiro as stated many times can aim dodge lasers
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Homelander also can't just "pick up" Yujiro when its class 50 vs class 100
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Xiao-Lee that neggs vastly above 15KT strikes, Aiki that neggs 15KT (Oliva), and DB that amps him to vastly above 65KT, not to mention small defensive amps like Endorphins aand Adrenaline, and I'm not seeing physical damage... happening. Or at least to the point to where John can actually do effective damage. And lasers still get aim dodged
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I think it's more of a dispersed AOE but that's fair. Think I can see why.
Lifting class is less irrelevant at the likes of TK or flight.
DB is a solid thing though. Not so sure about the other ones since I don't know them well enough. Where are they from?
Like I said, hard to aim dodge what you don't expect the first time. And if they're in a clash and either has a grapple on the other, a laser might be dangerous if used close by.
Lifting class is less irrelevant at the likes of TK or flight.
DB is a solid thing though. Not so sure about the other ones since I don't know them well enough. Where are they from?
Like I said, hard to aim dodge what you don't expect the first time. And if they're in a clash and either has a grapple on the other, a laser might be dangerous if used close by.
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I don't like Yujiro's odds if it's AOE, but isn't his laser vision just like Superman's?
If you mean Aiki, it works in other situations as well (think situations like Shibukawa vs Musashi, Jack, and Ali Jr)
It is, as he's flexing his muscles, but that shouldn't be a problem for what I've listed. Normally it wouldn't work with Xiao-Lee, but Yujiro seems to be able to use it fine while in DB as I recall. Endorphins and Adrenaline are from early Baki, like Gaia vs Baki is a prime example, but those buffs are negligible, as the buff is unqualifiable
Oh the only way any of what I said works is if Yujiro dodges the first laser itself, or gets hit by the first one, only after that can he aim dodge (as he's now aware that John can shoot lasers out of his eyes.)
If you mean Aiki, it works in other situations as well (think situations like Shibukawa vs Musashi, Jack, and Ali Jr)
It is, as he's flexing his muscles, but that shouldn't be a problem for what I've listed. Normally it wouldn't work with Xiao-Lee, but Yujiro seems to be able to use it fine while in DB as I recall. Endorphins and Adrenaline are from early Baki, like Gaia vs Baki is a prime example, but those buffs are negligible, as the buff is unqualifiable
Oh the only way any of what I said works is if Yujiro dodges the first laser itself, or gets hit by the first one, only after that can he aim dodge (as he's now aware that John can shoot lasers out of his eyes.)
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Yeah pretty much. Was thinking more AOE shockwaves but didn't really think that would be enough.
Ahhh, wasn't contending Aiki not working actually.
I see, if that's low well it would still stack up as slight boosts. Gonna check that out after work.
Makes sense. Only way I can see lasers working a second time is if Homelander can get Yujiro into a situation where it's hard to dodge. Leaning to a tie in that case
Ahhh, wasn't contending Aiki not working actually.
I see, if that's low well it would still stack up as slight boosts. Gonna check that out after work.
Makes sense. Only way I can see lasers working a second time is if Homelander can get Yujiro into a situation where it's hard to dodge. Leaning to a tie in that case
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Ohhhh, okay. Worst case scenario with shockwaves, Yujiro has to activate Yujiro Style (best name in the world ovo) and he's able to generate 1 massive omnidirectional shockwave and flash that extends about half a city block-a city block. After he releases that, he can generate shockwaves with his punches and kicks now.
Hoping every amp helps
Thats possible as well, an inco may be the case. I'm banking on John's temper getting the better of him personally, but I think an incon is justifiably as well
Hoping every amp helps
Thats possible as well, an inco may be the case. I'm banking on John's temper getting the better of him personally, but I think an incon is justifiably as well
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Grace was almost over but one of the votes retracted to think over some points of the opposition, so it's now 6:1Jvando said:
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Wait, is 6:1 enough to add? 7 votes with a 3 vote difference?Jvando said:
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Hmm... Honestly at the end I'm just gonna vote tie since it seems like the likeliest result. Homelander has the advantage in the beginning of the match, but if the battle goes long Yujiro has a strong chance of winning. Homelander can still win later on but with lesser chances.
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Yujiro FRA
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That's grace
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This can be added if it hasnt been already
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By chance do you have the link to the match request thread?
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Homelanders profile is still locked
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I'll do some poking around when I get the chance. If it's locked, I'll make the request, if it's not, I'll add this myself
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I'll add it to Homelander in a bit
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