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Yujiro Hanma Downgrade
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They really do love ramping things up outta nowhere
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It's really weird. Yanagi acted like Yujiro breaking a metal katana with his bare hands like it was some god tier feat, when he's hung out with Spec, who nearly destroyed the Statue of Liberty with a flurry of bunches, and Doyle, who's a ******* cyborg.
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This guy:
Nomi No Sukune
He was hyped up at the end of Dou as it ended in a cliffhanger. He shows a feat of turning coal into diamond with grip strength (something only Yujiro has done), but I'm too lazy to find it.
Nomi No Sukune
He was hyped up at the end of Dou as it ended in a cliffhanger. He shows a feat of turning coal into diamond with grip strength (something only Yujiro has done), but I'm too lazy to find it.
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Not yet, no. Still this guy is implied to have monstrous strength, that even Baki was surprised. Also the scans were much easier to find than I thought:
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Basically the context is Tokugawa tells a story about the legendary sumo wrestler "Nomi No Sukune", and how he managed to turn coal into diamond (which even Baki can hardly believe). Then Tokugawa mentions his modern day descendant (the guy I posted earlier) managed to turn the rest of the coal into diamond.
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Basically the context is Tokugawa tells a story about the legendary sumo wrestler "Nomi No Sukune", and how he managed to turn coal into diamond (which even Baki can hardly believe). Then Tokugawa mentions his modern day descendant (the guy I posted earlier) managed to turn the rest of the coal into diamond.
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I thought Yujirou couldn't do that coal-to-diamond thingBigDawgs said:
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I think he even said it couldn't be done or something along those linesRyukama said:
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It wasn't incoherent. I just stated you all should take into account the staements that went along with sed feat, as well as that yujiro was in base. I also, ca. Prove Olivias feat was just that. The GPS satellites circle the Earth at an altitude of about 20,000 km (12,427 miles) and complete two full orbits every day. So the force of Olivia's throw disrupted the satellites, and by doing so the entire worlds gps systems. Hence the statement he affected the world in one full power blow.
Wherever you are on the planet, at least four GPS satellites are 'visible' at any time. Each one transmits information about its position and the current time at regular intervals. These signals, travelling at the speed of light, are intercepted by your GPS receiver, which calculates how far away each satellite is based on how long it took for the messages to arrive.
Once it has information on how far away at least three satellites are, your GPS receiver can pinpoint your location using a process called trilateration. Imagine you are standing somewhere on Earth with three satellites in the sky above you. If you know how far away you are from satellite A, then you know you must be located somewhere on the red circle. If you do the same for satellites B and C, you can work out your location by seeing where the three circles intersect. This is just what your GPS receiver does, although it uses overlapping spheres rather than circles.
The more satellites there are above the horizon the more accurately your GPS unit can determine where you are. Oliver was able to disrupt these messages THROUGH the entire world, causing a disruption stated by bush and a few others saying they were going through places they obviously were not.
Wherever you are on the planet, at least four GPS satellites are 'visible' at any time. Each one transmits information about its position and the current time at regular intervals. These signals, travelling at the speed of light, are intercepted by your GPS receiver, which calculates how far away each satellite is based on how long it took for the messages to arrive.
Once it has information on how far away at least three satellites are, your GPS receiver can pinpoint your location using a process called trilateration. Imagine you are standing somewhere on Earth with three satellites in the sky above you. If you know how far away you are from satellite A, then you know you must be located somewhere on the red circle. If you do the same for satellites B and C, you can work out your location by seeing where the three circles intersect. This is just what your GPS receiver does, although it uses overlapping spheres rather than circles.
The more satellites there are above the horizon the more accurately your GPS unit can determine where you are. Oliver was able to disrupt these messages THROUGH the entire world, causing a disruption stated by bush and a few others saying they were going through places they obviously were not.
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He would be above most, musashi it was stated that he didnt take motobe seriously tho. And could've killed him three times if he really wanted to, motobe didn't eeally use his aura or perfect blade technique or his imagination. Witch is where he uses his bare hand Fighting style and is arguably more stronger without his blades then he is with them. He was able to at least beat yujiro in mind games but that wouldn't nessecarily translate to, a fight against yujiro. But musashi beat pickle almost effortlessly non serious so motobe could be rated equally as strong as pickle at least with weapons.
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So where does this leave Yujiro in terms of AP? If we can't use his earthquake feat to justify his 7A, and we don't have a calc of Oliva shaking the Earth yet, what should we do?
Also, we should probably start discussing where others scale in the current series. I have a feeling that people like Musashi, Motobs and Ali Jr are gonna cause numerous headaches.
Also, we should probably start discussing where others scale in the current series. I have a feeling that people like Musashi, Motobs and Ali Jr are gonna cause numerous headaches.
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Barack Obama said Yujiros strikes exceed a nuclear impact. You could argue its hyperbole since he does say "its said your power exceeds a nuclear impact" something like that.
Oliva didn't shake the world btw. The USA government keeps surveillance on Yujiro, Oliva, and Che Guevara the guy you see in the scan getting smacked into the ground. They use satellites to do so, any time any of the 3 move faster than 5 MPH with physical movement any GPS systems in a radius of 70 meters gets screwed up thanks to the satellites homing in on them.
So itd be more of a speed feat since all the world's GPS systeme were affected. Also, Baki verse acknowledges velocity x mass btw, Orochi Katsumis mach punch which at least>Mach 79 is proof of that. Normal hits were tanked by Pickle, Mach punches sent him flying.
Oliva didn't shake the world btw. The USA government keeps surveillance on Yujiro, Oliva, and Che Guevara the guy you see in the scan getting smacked into the ground. They use satellites to do so, any time any of the 3 move faster than 5 MPH with physical movement any GPS systems in a radius of 70 meters gets screwed up thanks to the satellites homing in on them.
So itd be more of a speed feat since all the world's GPS systeme were affected. Also, Baki verse acknowledges velocity x mass btw, Orochi Katsumis mach punch which at least>Mach 79 is proof of that. Normal hits were tanked by Pickle, Mach punches sent him flying.
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lowball, even we assume that satellites is right on Oilva head. The satellites still in the orbit.TheMerchant66 said:
That mean shockwave from the oliva strike still have to reach the Orbit range to shake the satellites. I think this need more then 50 megatons.
And it already said that the strike affected the whole world. You going against the author intent here.
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The satellites didn't shake though, any time Yujiro Oliva or Che move faster than 5 MPH the satellites begin to focus on then which makes GPS signals within a 70 meter radius begin to act screwed up, unless you want to argue just then moving at 7 MPH they also shake the world? I agree with Yujiro being mountain level anyhow, just that Olivas feat is more likely a speed feat.
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I'd like to reply here shortly.
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OK, so I am ready.
First of all, there is no feat to quantify Oliva for there, really. It is explicitly stated, explained and shown in Chapter 26 of Baki that the Three Men More Dangerous Than an Assault Weapon (Yujiro, Oliva and Che Guevara) are constantly followed and tracked by sattellites at any and all times. It is stated that, should any of them move faster than they walk/6 mph or fight, half of the sattellites of the world will instantly start to track them. It is explicitly shown also that it causes massive GPS failures.
Oliva's "feat" was made when not only he was fighting, but when he was fighting against Che Guevara. From there, it is simple 2 + 2 to put together that the feat is bogus.
Now, for a tier for the God-tiers... I plan making a revision post based on the current ratings for the profiles in my wikia, But I think City-level is suitable for the absolute highest (Peak Baki, Yujiro, Kaku with Xiao Lee and unrestricted Musashi), at least LB/City Block level for the very high tiers (Pickle, base Baki as of now, restricted Musashi, Motobe with weapons, Oliva...), and the rest will stay pretty much the same.
First of all, there is no feat to quantify Oliva for there, really. It is explicitly stated, explained and shown in Chapter 26 of Baki that the Three Men More Dangerous Than an Assault Weapon (Yujiro, Oliva and Che Guevara) are constantly followed and tracked by sattellites at any and all times. It is stated that, should any of them move faster than they walk/6 mph or fight, half of the sattellites of the world will instantly start to track them. It is explicitly shown also that it causes massive GPS failures.
Oliva's "feat" was made when not only he was fighting, but when he was fighting against Che Guevara. From there, it is simple 2 + 2 to put together that the feat is bogus.
Now, for a tier for the God-tiers... I plan making a revision post based on the current ratings for the profiles in my wikia, But I think City-level is suitable for the absolute highest (Peak Baki, Yujiro, Kaku with Xiao Lee and unrestricted Musashi), at least LB/City Block level for the very high tiers (Pickle, base Baki as of now, restricted Musashi, Motobe with weapons, Oliva...), and the rest will stay pretty much the same.
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