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Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL Revision
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And me with the 5D's , DM, and GX revision thread.
What tier is Vrains anyways ?
What tier is Vrains anyways ?
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We'll have to go from there then ovo
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Xyz monsters also have immunity to Gravity I think. Trap card Gravity Bind or Spell Burden of the Mighty only works on Monsters with Levels after all, not Monsters with Ranks.
maybe its the reason why Xyz can get out of blackhole upon their summoning
maybe its the reason why Xyz can get out of blackhole upon their summoning
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Immunity would be NLF, but Resistance would be fine.
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less like NLF and more like 'Xyz can't interact at all with gravity', gravity waves and Xyz maybe will just pass through each other.ProfessorKukui4Life said:
if gravity amplification Magic/Trap can't affect Xyz, could it be that their homeworld works by different governing physics? anti-gravity maybe?
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If true that wouldn't really be NLF, you're just completely unaffected by it. Kinda like how by default something like a brainless rock is immune to mindhax kek/
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I haven't watched most of Zexal, but....
Is that stated in-universe as a being to do with Gravity? Do they clearly show immunity to other Gravity-based stuff? If not, I'm very sure this is a case of Game Mechanics.
Specifically, Gravity Bind & Burden of the Mighty are both cards that affect monsters with LEVELS.
Within the game rules, XYZ monsters do not have Levels, but Ranks, & as such, level-based effects are inapplicable to them. You wouldn't treat them as Level 0, nor any other Level number.
So. Any OTHER basis for them having Resistance to Gravity, or no?
Is that stated in-universe as a being to do with Gravity? Do they clearly show immunity to other Gravity-based stuff? If not, I'm very sure this is a case of Game Mechanics.
Specifically, Gravity Bind & Burden of the Mighty are both cards that affect monsters with LEVELS.
Within the game rules, XYZ monsters do not have Levels, but Ranks, & as such, level-based effects are inapplicable to them. You wouldn't treat them as Level 0, nor any other Level number.
So. Any OTHER basis for them having Resistance to Gravity, or no?
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@Imagynim as someone already point out, Xyzs are monsters from different reality. made out of antimatter or darkmatter . it doesn't make sense if they're antimatter because they'd not be able to maintain their coherency in our matter world.
kinda make sense with darkmatter but they'd be completely intangible to three fundamental forces but gravity.
either explanation doesn't match with my proposition of them being immune to gravity.
kinda make sense with darkmatter but they'd be completely intangible to three fundamental forces but gravity.
either explanation doesn't match with my proposition of them being immune to gravity.
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@Bambu IF they really came from antimatter or darkmatter world that is.
the only plausible explanation is if they came from dark matter world. gravity interact weakly with dark matter, but otherwise dark matter would be completely intangible to normal matter.
so if you accept them being made out of dark matter then yes, Xyz aren't immune to gravity. but Xyz won't be able to be harmed by baryonic matter, manipulation of EM, Strong Force and Weak Force.
so its either immunity to gravity (by game mechanics) or immunity to Three Fundamental Forces (by lore).
even though I said 'lore', I'm still not sure if its really dark matter world or not. I need to check wiki...
the only plausible explanation is if they came from dark matter world. gravity interact weakly with dark matter, but otherwise dark matter would be completely intangible to normal matter.
so if you accept them being made out of dark matter then yes, Xyz aren't immune to gravity. but Xyz won't be able to be harmed by baryonic matter, manipulation of EM, Strong Force and Weak Force.
so its either immunity to gravity (by game mechanics) or immunity to Three Fundamental Forces (by lore).
even though I said 'lore', I'm still not sure if its really dark matter world or not. I need to check wiki...
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from yugiohcard.com
Xyz Monsters are made from anti-matter, and have traveled here from the other side of a black hole. They're landing in Duels at the speed of light, ready to kick butt and take names.
... yeah its official. KONAMI can't do physics. at least we got 2 things that make sense. Xyz being able to survive immense gravity of black holr and they're at least lightspeed.
does this mean everytime someone summon Xyz they release planetbusting-level of energy? ovo
Xyz Monsters are made from anti-matter, and have traveled here from the other side of a black hole. They're landing in Duels at the speed of light, ready to kick butt and take names.
... yeah its official. KONAMI can't do physics. at least we got 2 things that make sense. Xyz being able to survive immense gravity of black holr and they're at least lightspeed.
does this mean everytime someone summon Xyz they release planetbusting-level of energy? ovo
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Wait. Hold on just a second. That reminds me of something that Nightmare (from GX) said. He said all of reality was created by a card. One part of it was light, the other was Darkness, which he embodied . If we assume ZEXAL and GX have the same canon.... Oh jeez. Judai beat that person... Oh jeez. Looks like the future revision got a lot more complicated than expected.
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You mean NightShroud (or Darkness, if you will), right?
That would complicate things even more.
Also assuming all series are in the same canon (which I don't really agree, but whatever), that could make Z-ARC slightly higher inot2-C, considering the existence of many other dimensions in Yu-Gi-Oh!.
But I digress.
That would complicate things even more.
Also assuming all series are in the same canon (which I don't really agree, but whatever), that could make Z-ARC slightly higher inot2-C, considering the existence of many other dimensions in Yu-Gi-Oh!.
But I digress.
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That doesn't necessarily mean that Yugi or Judai (or Jaden, whatever) existed there.
Welp, we might need to make a thread regarding the Yu-Gi-Oh| series' canonicity and continuity throughout the animes.
Also, if that's the case, if the Numeron Code controls "all of reality", it might be higher than Low 2-C because of, well, again, all of the other dimensions throughout the series.
Welp, we might need to make a thread regarding the Yu-Gi-Oh| series' canonicity and continuity throughout the animes.
Also, if that's the case, if the Numeron Code controls "all of reality", it might be higher than Low 2-C because of, well, again, all of the other dimensions throughout the series.
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Yes that is who I mean. It would also complicate the scaling between DM , GX , and 5D's, since Darkness is Low 2-C, and according to scaling all of them appear to be at least comparable to Judai. So... I'll be personally addressing that in another thread.
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Just out of curioisty, how many universes/dimensions even are in Yugioh?
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I don't know either. Based solely on DsoD ( Which is manga exclusive ) at least one hundred.
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well it can heal people,can upgrade monsters by infusing them with chaos.That us about all i know about it.
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What's AP of Ci1000? and is there any new Duel Terminal Lore? I only remember Vylons & Ally of Justice vs Worms.
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Chaos:
Obvious answer is obvious. Life Manipulation and Healing
Power Bestowal is something every duelist worth a profile should get, but Hart and Crest users weaker, more limited Barian Powers can upgrade cards like GEOD to NGEPD, and Vetrix can give parts of his power away.
Resistance towards Soul Manipulation and whatever getting numbers taken is, since Crest users, who have limited versions of Vetrix's crest, who has limited Barian World/Chaos powers, can resist Photon Hand and Astral. Every other method seems to require the death of the user for Barians
Teleportation, since crest users and Barians seem to have it as a standard ability.
Portal Creation, since they can manipulate the Overlay network to open portals. Hart Tenjo's limited Barian abilities could do this as well.
Resistance to Mind Manipulation, Possession, and Madness manipulation since abilities like the crest can negate the effects of the Numbers in terms of their hold on their users
Power Absorption: Vetrix used his abilities to do this to Hart
Energy Manipulation
Information Analysis: Since with Vetrix's crest he could see facedown cards and their effects.
Memory Manipulation and Perception Manipulation: Vetrix's crest allowed him to control and erase memories important to a person to drive them insane.
Reality Warping, Non-Physical Interaction, and Extrasensory Perception: Trey's crest, when upgraded with some of Vetrix's power, was able to manifest cards in reality, see Astral, and bind him to Chronomaly Babylon with chains.
Obvious answer is obvious. Life Manipulation and Healing
Power Bestowal is something every duelist worth a profile should get, but Hart and Crest users weaker, more limited Barian Powers can upgrade cards like GEOD to NGEPD, and Vetrix can give parts of his power away.
Resistance towards Soul Manipulation and whatever getting numbers taken is, since Crest users, who have limited versions of Vetrix's crest, who has limited Barian World/Chaos powers, can resist Photon Hand and Astral. Every other method seems to require the death of the user for Barians
Teleportation, since crest users and Barians seem to have it as a standard ability.
Portal Creation, since they can manipulate the Overlay network to open portals. Hart Tenjo's limited Barian abilities could do this as well.
Resistance to Mind Manipulation, Possession, and Madness manipulation since abilities like the crest can negate the effects of the Numbers in terms of their hold on their users
Power Absorption: Vetrix used his abilities to do this to Hart
Energy Manipulation
Information Analysis: Since with Vetrix's crest he could see facedown cards and their effects.
Memory Manipulation and Perception Manipulation: Vetrix's crest allowed him to control and erase memories important to a person to drive them insane.
Reality Warping, Non-Physical Interaction, and Extrasensory Perception: Trey's crest, when upgraded with some of Vetrix's power, was able to manifest cards in reality, see Astral, and bind him to Chronomaly Babylon with chains.
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3-C? why is it that high?Yobobojojo said:
Missed what? I know there's some stuff between Verz and Sacred (Xyz Constellar and Insect thing).
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Don't mean to be a jerk, but should I close this thread? The topic is kinda concluded after all.
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