Yogiri Takatou (Instant Death) vs Rika Furude ( Higurashi no Naku Koro ni)

[God900]

get that into ur head

Chill out, that's rude

 

[Gohanblanco217]

both

dude infintely into 1B wont grant high 1Bis already on their page get that into ur head already and yes infinite 1B is already accepted for umineko

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Dude there is a difference between infinite and infinitely people can't understand what are you trying to say exactly

 

[PrinceofPein]

Editted my post made a few mistake

 

[PrinceofPein]

okay let me try and clarify, a bit

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Well the most important thing can Rika affect Yogiri True form?

 

[PrinceofPein]

Rika scales to

, likely Hyperverse level (Her Catbox likely encompasses far more Beatrice's, which can only contain 2 days, while Hanyuu's influence spans over thousands of years, if not across all of time. Beatrice's catbox is also noted to be extremely small by normal Witch standards, and Hanyuu is a weakened version of Featherine Augustus Aurora, meaning she should be immeasurably powerful when compared to Beatrice)

who scales above

At least Hyperverse level, potentially High Hyperverse level with Endless Magic (Endless Magic is said to have control over an individual's journey through the infinite layers of the sea of fragments, being potentially capable of granting infinite evolution through all of its endeavors to a lower-order being when paired with Maria's Magic of Origins) |

At least Hyperverse level, potentially High Hyperverse level with Endless Magic | Hyperverse level (As the Game Master and Territory Lord, she embodies her gameboard and exists within a higher layer than everything else within it, including the previously mentioned Golden Land and the local Sea of Fragments that sees it as fiction).

so yes some umineko pages sucks and the creator has no business having a tier 0 key

 

[PrinceofPein]

Well the most important thing can Rika affect Yogiri True form?

is it 1B? then yes

 

[Gohanblanco217]

is it 1B? then yes

I'm pretty sure you need feats for affecting someone with NEP type 2 that is above baseline iirc

 

[Catzlaflame]

Rika scales to

who scales above

No the ENTIRE witch domain is high-1B, Beatrice catbox is like 9D or sum, the high-1B comes from endless magic which lets her trancend to higher layers, hanyu catbox scales above only the catbox ,

Though for what it’s worth once ovy’s upgrade thread drops rika will be 1-A

 

[PrinceofPein]

No bro the ENTIRE witch domain is high-1B, Beatrice catbox is like 9D or sum, the high-1B comes from endless magic which lets her trancend to higher layers, hanyu catbox scales above only the catbox ,

yes i am not talking about the justification i am talking about the characters

Though for what it’s worth once ovy’s upgrade thread drops rika will be 1-A

yup i am happy and remove tier 0 creator

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Though for what it’s worth once ovy’s upgrade thread drops rika will be 1-A

Wait until Yogiri get upgraded to tier 0

 

[PrinceofPein]

I'm pretty sure you need feats for affecting someone with NEP type 2 that is above baseline iirc

Nonexistent Physiology (Type 2. Exists as an entity of nothingness at the core of her being, with her physical form being constructed and defined solely by her thoughts)

 

[PrinceofPein]

Wait until Yogiri get upgraded to tier 0

e waiting patiently for shinza upgrade thread to make a spite match againt yogiri

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Nonexistent Physiology (Type 2. Exists as an entity of nothingness at the core of her being, with her physical form being constructed and defined solely by her thoughts)

I'm talking about if Rika has feats for affecting someone with NEP type 2 that is above baseline, I wasn't asking if she has NEP type 2 or not.......

e waiting patiently for shinza upgrade thread to make a spite match againt yogiri

You hate Yogiri don't you?

 

[PrinceofPein]

I'm talking about if Rika has feats for affecting someone with NEP type 2 that is above baseline, I wasn't asking if she has NEP type 2 or not.......

not sure, but i will wait for someone else input

You hate Yogiri don't you?

not yet

 

[Lapsad]

In the context on his profile yogiri is not NEP type 2 above baselinen.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

In the context on his profile yogiri is not NEP type 2 above baselinen.

IIRC it comes from the fact that Yogiri NEP type 2 is incomprehensible from the point of view of UEG NEP type 2 or something like that I think you should probably ask @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless

 

[Bernkastelll]

IIRC it comes from the fact that Yogiri NEP type 2 is incomprehensible from the point of view of UEG NEP type 2 or something like that I think you should probably ask @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless

It should be noted that perhaps is because Yogiri is an existence way more D than UEG

 

[Lapsad]

IIRC it comes from the fact that Yogiri NEP type 2 is incomprehensible from the point of view of UEG NEP type 2 or something like that I think you should probably ask @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless

Where they said that ?

I'm not sure just being incomprehensible to another type 2 would make you above baseline.

 

[Delta333]

IIRC it comes from the fact that Yogiri NEP type 2 is incomprehensible from the point of view of UEG NEP type 2 or something like that I think you should probably ask @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless

Not on profile and your reason is totally wrong,make a CRT about it if you want

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Not on profile and your reason is totally wrong,make a CRT about it if you want

I'm like pretty sure it was agreed in a thread (forgot which one ) that Yogiri NEP type 2 is above baseline just wait until @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless gives his input

 

[Delta333]

I'm like pretty sure it was agreed in a thread (forgot which one ) that Yogiri NEP type 2 is above baseline just wait until @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless gives his input

What thread?Because Oblivion said in 1-B thread that NEP type 2 above baseline is non sense

 

[Zencha9]

what the **** happened here ?
infinite-D umineko comes from the witch domain and the characters who scale to that are 1-A and above

 

[Jinsye]

Yogurt can't actually kill Rika.

As with all meta-beings, Rika's essence/ability to regenerate is on a level that is beyond anything in the Instant Death verse, as her true essence is 1-A+/is able to regenerate from 1-A+ erasure.

Rika has like jack for offensive abilities so, I dunno.

EDIT: Oh wait, this is Bern. Yeah she wins.

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

Please allow me to summarize what needed to be clarified here:
1. How many dimensions are Umineko's 1-B? Is it higher than Yogiri's?
2. Do those from Hiragushi have 1-A smurfs like those from Umineko?

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

Yogurt can't actually kill Rika.

As with all meta-beings, Rika's essence/ability to regenerate is on a level that is beyond anything in the Instant Death verse, as her true essence is 1-A+/is able to regenerate from 1-A+ erasure.

Rika has like jack for offensive abilities so, I dunno.

EDIT: Oh wait, this is Bern. Yeah she wins.

Wait, so the 1-Bs in Hiragushi also have 1-A haxes like those in Umineko?

 

[Hasty12345]

iirc, Rika doesn't have Truths, but she's still a Witch, can't she regen from a 1-A+ realm?

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Yogurt can't actually kill Rika.

As with all meta-beings, Rika's essence/ability to regenerate is on a level that is beyond anything in the Instant Death verse, as her true essence is 1-A+/is able to regenerate from 1-A+ erasure.

Rika has like jack for offensive abilities so, I dunno.

EDIT: Oh wait, this is Bern. Yeah she wins.

I'm pretty sure Regenerating from 1-A erasure doesn't means anything that's just regular high godly regen which Yogiri negs iirc

 

[Gohanblanco217]

What thread?Because Oblivion said in 1-B thread that NEP type 2 above baseline is non sense

Never mind then

 

[God900]

I'm like pretty sure it was agreed in a thread (forgot which one ) that Yogiri NEP type 2 is above baseline just wait until @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless gives his input

How can NEP be above baseline or below???
NEP doesn't have levels...

 

[Gohanblanco217]

How can NEP be above baseline or below???
NEP doesn't have levels...

Forget about what I said lmao but still can Rika affect those with NEP type 2? I'm still curious

 

[Bernkastelll]

How can NEP be above baseline or below???
NEP doesn't have levels...

It does, something being more nonexistent than other

 

[God900]

Forget about what I said lmao but still can Rika affect those with NEP type 2? I'm still curious

Yeah, most people in Umineko can

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Yeah, most people in Umineko can

I see well does Yogiri have a way to put her down?

 

[God900]

I see well does Yogiri have a way to put her down?

His ID?

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

If Rika has 1-A haxes then I vote Incon. Either Yogiri incaps her using ID or she kills him with 1-A hax.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

If Rika has 1-A haxes then I vote Incon. Either Yogiri incaps her using ID or she kills him with 1-A hax.

Can Incon matches be added when it comes to tier 1?

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

Can Incon matches be added when it comes to tier 1?

Only 1-A matches and above won't be added.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Only 1-A matches and above won't be added.

But what about 1-B characters with 1-A hax? Is it okay?

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

However, I still believe Ovy's opinion is needed on this. @Ovy7