For the context, a big ass rock fell on his head and he was at death's door for a few moments (but was able to come back to reality thanks to healing power)
I mean doesn't the scan say that he already had no sense of self as opposed to just almost losing it?
No, the scans say that he had "no sense of self beside his own consciousness", it means that everything else that makes his existence, beside his consciousness, weren't there anymore. Which, I mean, is logical, he was in a "dream-like" state.
Not really.
Yeah being in a "dream-like state" in a way that has no ability to feel or see anything seems like perception manipulation to me, it's the most logical way to explain why a normal rock can put a normal person in that state when falls in their head as opposed to damaging them at the conceptual level. That's not something that a normal rock could do, and we know that the same happens when someone gets killed by Yogiri since the darkness is mentioned when UEG is about to be dead as well.
You didn't understand what I meant.
If this happens to everyone death even without Yogiri’s influence then it’s already contradicted to concept imo, like if someone gets killed by a car his concept gets removed too? The difference that you described doesn’t make it conceptual either, just death hax with regeneration negation if he kills someone and they never comeback, the removal of concept is not necessary to do such thing.
I mean, if you kill me, you'll effectively affect/erase my mind while just affecting my body. We wouldn't give you "mind manip" because you killed me, tho. That's the same case that applies here to me.
It can keep
Disagree with Resistance Negation.
Disagree with Causality Manipulation.
Disagree with Non-Physical Interaction.
Neutral on Space-Time Destruction, I will read your thread and then give my own opinion later.
Agree with Immortality type 7.
Agree with you. No precognition for Yogiri.
Disagree with Immortality Negation.
ID fans like you are wild ngl
Disagree with Regeneration Negation Mid-Godly.
Disagree with Power Nullification, and Agree with Resistance to Probability Manipulation.
Show the scan about UEG having resistance to 1-B death manipulation and Yogiri negates her resistance as opposed to straight up killing her, which is just simply layer hax instead. And no scan says that the concept of death doesn’t apply to her, and even if such statement exists, it’s immortality type 5, not resistance to death manipulation.
They don’t need physical bodies but Yogiri killed them when they still have physical bodies, and send the scan about Malna lacking soul, mind and concepts otherwise her NEP would not qualify just by lacking physical bodies alone.
Send me that scan and I will remove both his causality manipulation and acau 4 rather than just causality manipulation then. Functioning with cause and effect is natural for any existence, why does someone need to manipulate cause and effect to do that? Do I have causality manipulation since I’m bound to cause of effect as well?
This is not an argument, for example to have type 1 immortality negation he needs to make a character no longer having eternal life, so they can eventually die by old age, something that Yogiri has never done before.
Give me the scan about Mitsuki erased them with such attack and those goddesses resurrected after that, otherwise it’s just EE resistance. Also gives me scan about Malna lacking soul and mind too.
With no reason, yea.
The last statement of THE END topics, I agree with you
Scan of UEG erased Touichiro and defeated him.
It does say that they get erased, but no further statements about any other aspect getting erased, which is Low-Godly at best.Scan of UEG erased Touichiro and defeated him.
in UEG backstory, she fought against Alexia and Luu for ruling the world many times. They all were relative to each other at that time, which means UEG had resistance to Luu & Alexia death manipulation hax.
After the power balance shifted to Alexia, because of Mitsuki actions.
Alexia defeated UEG and Luu, after that it's stated that they sealed them.
Scan of Trio goddess fight and Alexia came out on top.
already adress this
So he simply negates type 5, not resistance negation.
Mitsuki does indeed have such an EE, but again, there is no proof he used it on the goddesses or even if it works on Gods of the same level (or Gods as a whole tbf).
they're busy complaining about the downgrades on discord and social media.
I'm talking about the ID fans here who passionately defended the verse back then, like that Oblivion guy. And I'm confident that half of those who complained off-site hadn’t actually read the novel, and some simply don’t have access here.
I'd have to check, but I'm pretty sure those two cases are different from one another. This is a problem with the English translation, but that's another topic.
If someone has the ability to destroy the concept of their target and then erased someone, and claimed they made sure to thoroughly erase them, then it's fair to assume that they did. But I don't know the full context so I guess?
In general, I would agree with you, but the fact that NO GODS in the story were shown to die from something else than physical attack or physical means (erasure) is problematic for me (along other stuff).
