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Yami Vs. Gojo (11-4-3) (Grace)
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Bastolan27
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The only statement that gives GW a size is the one that says it's infinite, the fact that you can accept it being Universal but then have issues with it being Tier 2 if it's infinite is confusing.
That's literally a statement by the person who created, manipulates and owns the place affirming the idea that GW is infinite, we might as well toss out Gojo's Infinite Void dumping infinite information if a statement like that is meaningless.
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The size of the Glamour World shouldn't be debated here, though. If it's accepted we should take it as fact and if we don't wanna we should try and overturn it in a CRT.
The space Gojo brings into reality isn't like a house u'd build. If the house you built defied architecture and was some kind of abstract plane, sure, but that's not really what Limitless is.
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...... Chat GPT because you can't debate yourself? Your sinking that low huh? Never thought I'd see the day where people resort to using chat GPT for debating lmfao.
the observable universe is not infinite in size. The size of the universe is very much finite, as is stated in the tiering page.
If it's done in a comedic sense then it's often considered as flowery language.
Also this isn't argument from Incredulity. I don't see enough sufficient evidence, especially with what your providing. That's not a fallacy in the slightest so I suggest you actually learn how to debate properly.
Except it's not infinite in size according to her range. It's universal, finite in size.
Universe2.825 QuettaexaFoe to any higher finite number6.752x1082 to any higher finite number2.825x1092 to any higher finite number.
Difference is that Gojo's has literal showings and plenty of backings from Databooks and such. Don't @ me with that comparison ever.
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Unlimited Void doesn't give infinite information. It gives an infinite stream of information at the rate of about 6 months worth every fifth of a second.
Epsilon_R
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Come on now, it's not that complicated
Uni range is 3-A and anything that isn't 4-D (Low 2-C). This also includes High 3-A.
Regardless of which, her abilities description mentions her infinite size, so it actually is on her profile (And no, it's not a copy past from the Black Clover Wiki, which doesn't make mention of its size)
Uni range is 3-A and anything that isn't 4-D (Low 2-C). This also includes High 3-A.
Regardless of which, her abilities description mentions her infinite size, so it actually is on her profile (And no, it's not a copy past from the Black Clover Wiki, which doesn't make mention of its size)
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It's hard to say but I'm leaning towards Yami here. I won't vote yet because I'm not sure how space-ripping and smth like Neutral Infinity interact because of what Dr. White is saying, so I'll wait for that to be resolved and stuff before voting. By the way, does Yami go for the kill with Dimensional Slash in character against any random dude?
Bastolan27
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I used ChatGPT as an unbiased, neutral source in this discussion.
Universal range in this wiki spans from 46.6 billion light-years to any infinite 3D distance, acknowledging that universes in fiction can be infinite.
Again
Often, but not always. This scene is included to explain her powers to the readers.
In Range Uni and High Uni are considered the same tier in this wiki.
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As I pointed out, Universal range does not grant infinite range. The Universe only expands indefinitely over the course of time and there's nothing to imply DW is literal 1:1 with the observable universe.
but fortunately that's all irrelevant as Yami doesnt have Universal range.
In some cases, not all cases. Also no, universal range does not cover High 3-A range.
If you want I'll even have calc members to explain that part further.
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Gojo is probably finished unless Yami cuts his arm off or smth with it, in that case he can RCT then Domain or Purple.
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Tbf Yami's Slash could get null easily with Lapse Blue since even generic gravity pull from Dante could counter it
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How does a dimension cutting slash get countered by gravity?
Epsilon_R
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It obviously does, as there's no range tier given for anything between 3-A and 4-D/Low 2-C, you can still call anyone you want tho
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Yeah sure.
Universal range is not infinite range. The Universe isn't infinite in size, it just expands indefinitely over time.
and the explanation is not legitimate.
Bastolan27
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Guys we aren't supposed to debate the size of the Glamour World here. If the profile says it's infinite it is infinite for the sake of this discussion. If that should be overturned it should be done on a CRT pls
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It obviously doesn't, you aren't reading it correctly. The Universe can have an infinite radius if the universe is given time to indefinitely expand, the universe does not start off with an infinite size. It's finite that increases indefinitely over time.
@Armorchompy and @DontTalkDT can explain this much better.
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It's not infinite since her range contradicts it.
Epsilon_R
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Omg, you know what go ahead and ask them because I'm getting fed up
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Do a CRT then. But with all do respect, this is Gojo Vs Yami, not how large is glamour world. No reaching and coping here please.
Ppl, cast your votes and explain why if you want. Thanks
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I don't think something like this counts for range, and if it does, the rating may just be a mistake on the part of the supporters considering infinite-sized is on the page as well as universal range. From what's being said here, I guess they thought Uni range includes infinite distance?
I checked the wiki page they sent and the size isn't mentioned there so it's definitely an addition here. I think it's just fair to use it.
Bastolan27
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I asked three staff members about the universal and infinite range.
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Only if Dimension Slash instantly kills Gojo. Remember he can still TP away from it once it gets past where infinity typically stops stuff, considering it is speed equalized. Not to mention that once Gojo realizes that his regular hits can't reach Yami, he'd opt for either Purple (void manip) or DE (info manip), both of which are wincons.
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Okay let me explain something to you.
By default, the universe has a set size and does not start off infinite in size. It's finite but expands indefinitely over time, the default is not the universe being infinite in size. It starts off with a set number and then continues to expand indefinitely over time.
No typical universe is infinite in size, they're all finite that expand over the course of eon's indefinitely.
By default, the universe has a set size and does not start off infinite in size. It's finite but expands indefinitely over time, the default is not the universe being infinite in size. It starts off with a set number and then continues to expand indefinitely over time.
No typical universe is infinite in size, they're all finite that expand over the course of eon's indefinitely.
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Dark magic: Black hole
Dark magic: black moon
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Make a CRT after this
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How do those help? They just extend the range / absorb attacks, which won't really work on Domain Expansion.
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I'll let Clover handle that. I don't need to make a CRT since she only have Universal range which is not infinite.Make a CRT after this
If anything you guys should be the ones to make a CRT. Because right now she has Universal range based on an infinite range statement whereas the two do not share the same set range by default.
Literally the main supporter of the Verse Clover is also confused on her Universal range whenever from how it explained to me it should be infinite. So yeah, that's not on me to fix.
Bastolan27
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Confirmed, her range is indeed infinite.
https://vsbattles.com/members/armorchompy.4554/#profile-post-comment-103903
https://vsbattles.com/members/armorchompy.4554/#profile-post-comment-103903
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Yeah no, you didn't ask that question properly.
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You did not, you just confirmed the scale of the universal tier.
Bastolan27
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How so? Your argument is that universal range cannot be infinite. And that was Debunked
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With all due respect he's a much better scaler for the verse than you are. I've already said that Arnold is a good debater for the verse as well, keep crying.
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3-A or universal range on wiki merely describes range that can reach the observable universe inherently. Aka unless a character is specified to have infinite range, we do not assume that “universal range” equates to infinite range. Also, expanding in perpetuity is not the same as possessing an infinite size. I can have a 3 m ball that is expanding in perpetuity at a rate of 1 nm per trillion years, and that does not all of a sudden make that 3 m ball infinite.
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He literally said no.
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