azontr
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Because being "far stronger" doesn't make her 1.5 times stronger. Those "far highers" and "highers" are unquantifiable, as in, they do not make a character "insert number" stronger.
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Yamato vs Esdeath
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DaMonkeMan
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Anyway this is a mismatch, probably a stomp for Esdeath, Yamato can't do anything against time stopping lol.
DaMonkeMan
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Tbf transformations make Zoans much stronger though. Like how Hybrid Kaidou could stop Luffy's heart in hybrid, something he failed to ever do in base.
azontr
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Cool bro but that's unquantifiable unless there's a stated multiplier.
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When the hell was Advanced Conqueror's haki defense? They only coat their attacks in it I thought
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And they can also use it to defend. You do know that right?
azontr
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He clearly didn't, King.
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Let me be smart
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Why?
FantaRin_The_First
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So what's the consensus for this match? I am leaning towards Esdeath, myself; while she won't use time stop right away due to sadism reasons, she likely would use it eventually when she discovers that her and Yamato are roughly equal and actually gives her a challenge-Esdeath is a ******. but she isn't dumb, after all.
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Esdeath stomps
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Fandom said so
FantaRin_The_First
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Eh? Yamato still has a good chance of killing Esdeath before she pulls out time stop, mostly due to Esdeath's CIS, tho. Nevertheless, a stomp is declared when one can beat the other with absolutely zero effort, which isn't the case here in my eyes. His ability to amp his AP and speed, while they are unknown, are still very good ways of dealing massive damage to Esdeath if they land; the ability to increase his dura is also a good thing for Yamato.
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Yeah but that's not really a layer of defense in that case is it? It's like saying a sword is a layer of defense.
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That's like deflecting a sword with another sword, still odd to call that a layer of defense. Of course you can parry with it
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i guess
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Yeah, rather than a stomp this is more like a decisive win, but i'll let the others think about it
@KingTempest Thought?
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Popted2
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nah Yamato has wincons, just that Esdeath's are more decisive,
i vote Esdeath FRA
also its not true that she spam time stop anytime, she can use it only once per day,
FantaRin_The_First
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Around three votes for Esdeath, including you. And cuz it has been cleared up-or just stated that this isn't a clear stomp-I vote for Esdeath as well.
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First, holy shit this went fast 
Second, how the f*** my thread format went from article to normal?
Second, how the f*** my thread format went from article to normal?
DaMonkeMan
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Yamato freezes her, ez dub, stop making stomp matches
Jokes aside, I'm 98% sure Esdeath takes this, the other two percent is just Yamato getting lucky with really good and precise hits. Anyway, voting Esdeath FRA I guess.
Jokes aside, I'm 98% sure Esdeath takes this, the other two percent is just Yamato getting lucky with really good and precise hits. Anyway, voting Esdeath FRA I guess.
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Yeah, I only see a "she" when I look at yamato regardless of what they call themselves, I'm also not part of the fandom neither do I roll with these "I identify as..." stuff but whatever.
I'll try to remember not to refer to him as female
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Yeah, I didn't mean stomp as in literal stomp, more like esdeath has a serious advantage.
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Yamato Base scales to be comparable or superior to Kaido Base which is claimed to be able to stop Blackbeard who possesses the power of the Gura Gura no Mi the strongest Paramecia which is superior to the Zushi Zushi no Mi which is 1.03 Petatons
Zoan Form Yamato outclasses him and Hybrid Yamato is superior to Zoan Form and can ultimately increase its Attack power with Haoushoku Infusion.
which gives us a scale string like this:
Houshoku Infusion Yamato > Hybrid Yamato > Zoan Form Yamato >Base Yamato => Base Kaido > Post-Gura Gura Blackbeard > 1.03 Petatons
Esdeath scales to at least 550 Gigatons and possibly 1.58 Petatons
the difference between the calculated 1.533980583
seriously there seems to be a big AP difference between the two ?
Zoan Form Yamato outclasses him and Hybrid Yamato is superior to Zoan Form and can ultimately increase its Attack power with Haoushoku Infusion.
which gives us a scale string like this:
Houshoku Infusion Yamato > Hybrid Yamato > Zoan Form Yamato >Base Yamato => Base Kaido > Post-Gura Gura Blackbeard > 1.03 Petatons
Esdeath scales to at least 550 Gigatons and possibly 1.58 Petatons
the difference between the calculated 1.533980583
seriously there seems to be a big AP difference between the two ?
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That isn't a big difference at all
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I changed itFirst, holy shit this went fast
Second, how the f*** my thread format went from article to normal?
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Can you revert ot back? Thats my aesthetic to go for most of my matches
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Can Yamato reach a valid wincon before Esdeath uses "bruh Time Stop GG"?
I really can't see a valid scenario, Esdeath has many advantages.
I really can't see a valid scenario, Esdeath has many advantages.
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It seems like as if Esdeath can only use it once per day and doesn't resort to using it right away, so I guess I can help with getting this match added by unlocking Yamato's profile.
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Esdeath used it like 3x in the final battle. She can use it more than once, at least while she's "commander in chief"
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I wouldn't know much about that. Is she very likely to use that early in the fight?
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She did? I don’t remember that. She used it the one time after she get cut by Akame but that all I remember
