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Xenoverse and Heroes possible separation

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Ss3micah said:
Accept Defeat Gracefully and Move on
As Beerus says
"Knowing when to admit defeat is an important skill also"
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No offense, but that's gotta be the stupidest thing you've said yet.
Dagoth_OwO said:
Also no-one in DBH is 2-C. They're higher
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Based on what exactly? It was agreed upon months ago that most of everyone in the verse is 2-C, and the only ones who scaled to the whole of the cosmology were Time Power Unleashed Mechikabura and those stronger than him. Do you have new feats as well?

Hell, I could make an argument that 2-C isn't even correct.

Also, just a quick note: Dr. Wheelo, in his robot body, battles with the Avatars alongside other genius scientists in Jaaku Mission, but in Big Bang Mission, he appears in a human body and states that he gained this body after his ambition was "once crushed", referencing The World's Strongest. Bit of a discrepancy, innit?
 
Nullflowerblush said:
Based on what exactly? It was agreed upon months ago that most of everyone in the verse is 2-C, and the only ones who scaled to the whole of the cosmology were Time Power Unleashed Mechikabura and those stronger than him. Do you have new feats as well?

Hell, I could make an argument that 2-C isn't even correct.

Also, just a quick note: Dr. Wheelo, in his robot body, battles with the Avatars alongside other genius scientists in Jaaku Mission, but in Big Bang Mission, he appears in a human body and states that he gained this body after his ambition was "once crushed", referencing The World's Strongest. Bit of a discrepancy, innit?
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1- Months ago it was also agreed that DBH wasn't gonna be 2-A, so that point is kinda moot. Things can change over time.

2- We already know what your Low 2-C argument is, no worries.

3- Different Timelines. A Wheelo from a different timeline is not surprising.
 
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Nullflowerblush said:
Based on what exactly? It was agreed upon months ago that most of everyone in the verse is 2-C, and the only ones who scaled to the whole of the cosmology were Time Power Unleashed Mechikabura and those stronger than him. Do you have new feats as well?
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The 2-C placement is simply false and a huge lowball after further evaluation and new proof. One of the reasons why this took so long was because the tiering changed constantly
Nullflowerblush said:
Hell, I could make an argument that 2-C isn't even correct.
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If you're referring to the roots of the Universe Tree or the Tree in general then 2-C doesn't even come from that.
Nullflowerblush said:
Also, just a quick note: Dr. Wheelo, in his robot body, battles with the Avatars alongside other genius scientists in Jaaku Mission, but in Big Bang Mission, he appears in a human body and states that he gained this body after his ambition was "once crushed", referencing The World's Strongest. Bit of a discrepancy, innit?
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What Ottavio said
 
Nullflowerblush said:
Not nice enough. The game takes precedence over the manga and the anime.
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We only do that when there's a contradiction.

Mechikabura's immortality is a manga only thing, but since there's no contradiction to it in other continuities (game and anime) we can still use it.

Demigra's light chains are another example.
 
Ottavio_Merluzzo said:
Mechikabura's immortality is a manga only thing, but since there's no contradiction to it in other continuities (game and anime) we can still use it.
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Just because we currently do a thing does mean the thing in question is correct. Since when have we applied this belief that, "If some new piece of wholly original information is introduced in an adaptation but also does not contradict the source material, it is fine to apply"? If that is the case, why not apply Dead Zone scaling, or our Class T Telekinesis calculations, or our Large Planet level Moon shattering calculation to the manga?
 
Ahem, let me correct something [ I'll say something smart for once].
The way we treat the games, anime and manga if dbh is different than canon db. Anime dbz and manga db are treated as completely separate continuities. Dbh game, anime and manga are treated as a composite continuity, if someone contradicts the game, we leave it, if it doesn't we keep it. You'll be aware of that if you have been following the recent DBH upgrades.
 
Okay. No problem.
 
To briefly explain why we treat Heroes the way we do - the reason why we combine information from the Heroes game, anime and manga, is because those three mediums tell roughly the same story. There aren't enough differences between them to justify creating separate profiles for each medium, and so we take information from all of them. It is admittedly not the most elegant solution, but it was agreed to be the most feasible one.
 
Wouldn't by that logic we merge Chou and the DBS anime? We'd need more than the manga or anime being "official" products and being pretty similar plot-wise to the main thing, to raise their status to secondary canon.
 
Bobsican said:
Wouldn't by that logic we merge Chou and the DBS anime? We'd need more than the manga or anime being "official" products and being pretty similar plot-wise to the main thing, to raise their status to secondary canon.
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It's not just that blog explains it. It even shares characters like trunks and another
 
Bobsican said:
Wouldn't by that logic we merge Chou and the DBS anime? We'd need more than the manga or anime being "official" products and being pretty similar plot-wise to the main thing, to raise their status to secondary canon.
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actually, this is bad comparison, because DBS Manga and Anime are actually vastly different from each other with their storyline. the Different between DBH Game, Manga and Anime is very small to almost non-existent in some part. Anime is just Game but dumbed down all the talking and dialogue and focus solely on action

Also, unlike DBS, where author clearly decided that both of them follow different part. In DBH manga and anime is just adaptation from game, they are extended canons that supported the main canon, not different continuity, anime was even called promotional anime, which its purpose is to serve as promotion material
 
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Antvasima said:
I would appreciate if you can also try to evaluate the following blog please.

vsbattles.fandom.com

Ottavio Merluzzo/sandbox

vsbattles.fandom.com vsbattles.fandom.com
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Elizhaa said:
2-A seems fine from the blog; there were recent standard changes on ranges that could affect whether the AP is above baseline. If wanted DontTalkDT could be asked for clarifications on the matter.
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DarkDragonMedeus said:
I suppose the blog looks fine from a glance.
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What should we do now Ant???
 
I think that this revision seems to have been accepted. It can probably be applied.
 
Thank you for the evaluation. I suppose that the above baseline mention might have to be removed then.
 
Antvasima said:
Thank you for the evaluation. I suppose that the above baseline mention might have to be removed then.
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No it shouldn't, it is already accepted and implimtend. But if someone doesn't understand it, we are more than happy to explain it, even if it's explained in the profiles.
 
Antvasima said:
Thank you for the evaluation. I suppose that the above baseline mention might have to be removed then.
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I think either Ultima or Don'tTalkDT should be called to evaluate the "above baseline range" stuff.

Although Orange is correct, it was accepted some time ago in another thread.
 
Elizhaa also understands quite well how our tiering system works, but if somebody properly explains the above baseline issue, I can ask him, QuasiYuri, and maybe some other knowledgeable member to evaluate it.
 
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