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Deadpool & Wolverine Spoiler Discussion Thread

Also, the adamantium was brittle to the point that Wade could snap off a rib, so you can make the argument that it was compromised
 
That_moron2 said:
What no? The suit was never a thing in any of the X-Men moves
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Wolverine litteraly said that he didn't want to wear it and only started wearing it after the death of the X-Men, for all we know in the main universe he was offered the suit but never wore it

Also, is that really your arguement for why this isn't the same Logan? We litteraly saw him have the same memories and as far as we know everything up to the attack on the X-Mansion was the exact same for this Wolverine, why would he not scale to main timeine FOX Wolverine in strength?
 
ThePrimalHunter said:
Wolverine litteraly said that he didn't want to wear it and only started wearing it after the death of the X-Men, for all we know in the main universe he was offered the suit but never wore it
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ThePrimalHunter said:
Also, is that really your arguement for why this isn't the same Logan? We litteraly saw him have the same memories and as far as we know everything up to the attack on the X-Mansion was the exact same for this Wolverine, why would he not scale to main timeine FOX Wolverine in strength?
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This just means he has similar memories
 
Propellus said:
No like, if the variant lives an exact same history as their main counterpart, they're bound to scale to the same feats to the other
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Him having a couple of things go the same way doesn't mean that he did exactly all the same things and is as strong as the main Wolverine
 
That_moron2 said:
Him having a couple of things go the same way doesn't mean that he did exactly all the same things and is as strong as the main Wolverine
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Except it does, because it's the same exact history where the same feats are exactly performed. It's for the same reason why we scaled the Loki variant from his prime counterpart
 
Propellus said:
Except it does, because it's the same exact history where the same feats are exactly performed. It's for the same reason why we scaled the Loki variant from his prime counterpart
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Alright but clearly their histories aren't the exact same because we know of several differences like the suit, the fact he never got close to the X-Men etc
 
Propellus said:
Except it does, because it's the same exact history where the same feats are exactly performed. It's for the same reason why we scaled the Loki variant from his prime counterpart
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Sorcerer Supreme Doctor Strange from What If is a better example because his backstory is different from Strange's, but he otherwise experiences the same events up until 2018

Loki L1130's entire character is that he's Sacred Timeline Loki pulled from a certain point in time
 
Propellus said:
Except it does, because it's the same exact history where the same feats are exactly performed. It's for the same reason why we scaled the Loki variant from his prime counterpart
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To add on to this, in response to Sabretooth recognizing Logan and challenging him to a duel, the latter kills him by cutting his head off, which references a line from Origins

This can be interpreted as him following up on that
 
Yeah, other than some really minor diffrences, they seem to have the exact same history behind them, and I don't think those minor differences are enough to justify making him hundreds of times weaker. Him & Deadpool should just be High 8-C

They should actually be Low 7-C but that's for a future CRT
 
That_moron2 said:
Can a possibly/likely High 8-C work?
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I really don't see the logic behind that

If this version of Wolverine was hundreds of times weaker than Deadpool's Wolverine, I think they would make that clear. Plus Deadpool survives beatings from various other versions of Wolverine from across the multiverse. If main universe Logan was far stronger than all of them, I would think they would show/tell us that. I really don't see any reason to not scale him fully to his main universe self other than some minor diffrences in backstory
 
ThePrimalHunter said:
I really don't see the logic behind that

If this version of Wolverine was hundreds of times weaker than Deadpool's Wolverine, I think they would make that clear. Plus Deadpool survives beatings from various other versions of Wolverine from across the multiverse. If main universe Logan was far stronger than all of them, I would think they would show/tell us that. I really don't see any reason to not scale him fully to his main universe self other than some minor diffrences in backstory
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Should Logan also get the P&A?
 
ThePrimalHunter said:
Yeah, other than some really minor diffrences, they seem to have the exact same history behind them, and I don't think those minor differences are enough to justify making him hundreds of times weaker. Him & Deadpool should just be High 8-C

They should actually be Low 7-C but that's for a future CRT
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I think Deadpool just becomes Low 7-C from this revision straight up. Especially if it involves adding a new key. It's very straightforward
 
I'm personally fine with Low 7-C Deadpool as long as it's a new key. But the pre and post retcons versions should be split apart though
 
Also, I've seen no one mention that Loki scaling brings in Class M because TVA minutemen can restrain him, and Deadpool can compete with them in LS
 
Has no one made a draft for Cassandra Nova yet?

I think yours and Marvulous's sandboxes should be compared to see which is more reliable.
 
That_moron2 said:
vsbattles.fandom.com

Cassandra Nova (Marvel Cinematic Universe)

vsbattles.fandom.com vsbattles.fandom.com
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As I said before, I strongly disagree with the idea that the Time Ripper's 2-A
Agnaa said:
Friends dragged me to watch it, so I'm gonna make a rare appearance in MCU battleboarding.
  • Timeline-destroying machine might not even be Tier 2. It was shown that it destroyed timelines by destabilizing them, not by frying every single moment in time with an explosion of energy. Plus, earlier stuff in the movie about anchor characters shows that such destabilization based on events involving finite energies can destroy timelines. On top of that, when the energy source of the machine was short-circuited, it created an explosion that wouldn't go above Tier 8. I don't actually know how we treat chain reactions like this, we might still include it saying smth like "via chain reaction", but regardless, no scaling could come from tanking/fueling/wielding this.
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It wouldn't be able to be fired at a Low 2-C/2-C being to kill them, even if they were something timeline-sized like a giant worm that eats timelines whole. So I think that sort of rating is misleading.
 
Ended up watching the film much earlier than I expected to (thanks sis), and oh boy am I glad I did. Definitely one of the best Marvel experiences in a while alongside Loki S2 and Guardians 3, and watching it in a theatre definitely elevated the experiences. Now I’m lowkey kinda bummed that my Youtube and Twitter feeds were so bloated with spoilers
 
That_moron2 said:
Did pre-retcon DP have an adamantium skeleton?
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I think so because of these close ups:
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And because everytime he teleports we see he has a metallic skeleton
 
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