(WR3M2) 8-B Shooters Tournament: Solid Snake VS The Smith Syndicate

[Psychomaster35]

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6 shooters remained. They could taste the feeling of escape by now, but they should really be thinking less of friendship and more of survival for themselves, because they are going to die anyways.

As the third winner’s round starts, the clone of Big Boss and slayer of the White Witch and the Ultimate Soldier, Solid Snake (nominated by @Popted2), fights the elite group of assassins and slayers of the firey haired kid with a turbo-charged backpack who is used as a lab rat and the Liar, the Smith Syndicate (nominated by @Armorchompy) in the battle between justice VS crime!

Rules stated in the tournament hub.

Who wins?

Solid Snake:

The Smith Syndicate:

Inconclusive: 7 (Popted2, Noneless21, XSOULOFCINDERX, FantaRin The First, JustANormalLemon, Armorchompy, Psychomaster35)

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Jesus Christ, Snake is gonna have his hands full with this one.

 

[Armorchompy]

nah **** that nobody cares, the real discussion is who is the ateurest of game ateurs, hideo kojima or suda51

 

[Noneless21]

nah **** that nobody cares, the real discussion is who is the ateurest of game ateurs, hideo kojima or suda51

none because i never played any game from both of these developer

yes i'm not cultured

 

[Armorchompy]

yeah so like, go do that

 

[Noneless21]

yeah so like, go do that

don't have money and console to play at....

 

[Popted2]

okay so, both Snake and Smith Syndicate are super skilled, i think Snake might possibly be slightly more skilled, but the real question is who has the best chances of winning?

yeah so like, go do that

Armorchompy as a supporter of both series can you describe their skill chains?

nah **** that nobody cares, the real discussion is who is the ateurest of game ateurs, hideo kojima or suda51

for me its Hideo, tough the only thing that i know about Suda is only No More Heroes, so i guess its really brilliant too

 

[Armorchompy]

I couldn't really tell you who's more skilled at the drop of a hat, but before getting into that I'd like to address a couple of things that Snake can't do in this match, namely stealth is kinda useless here I think, the Smiths have precog that triggers when they're about to get attacked, enhances senses that I think are way better than what Snake's dealt with (they can hear flowers growing, however the **** that works, also Con has daredevil-like hearing), will probably get bloodlust-sensing ESP in a future CRT i make (feel free to discount this eh, since it's still not on the profiles), and can see through invisibility, so that's outta the question.

 

[Popted2]

between what are their ap? Snake should be 23, tons and far higher with weapons

 

[Armorchompy]

Smiths upscale a lot from baseline so probably a little lower but not too important

 

[Popted2]

so Snake has a good ap advantage, thanks to his weapons

 

[Chariot190]

Give Snake his optional equipment

 

[Armorchompy]

so Snake has a good ap advantage, thanks to his weapons

I mean, bullets be piercin' anyway

 

[Popted2]

okay what is Snake equipment, standard and optional?

 

[Chariot190]

okay what is Snake equipment, standard and optional?

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[Psychomaster35]

g̵i̵v̵e̵ ̵i̵t̵ ̵t̵o̵ ̵h̵i̵m̵ ̵a̵n̵d̵ ̵i̵l̵l̵ ̵t̵e̵l̵l̵ ̵y̵o̵u̵ ̵b̵r̵o̵

He has both standard and optional equipment based on the tournament rules

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Oh Snake is gonna be ******* loaded.

 

[Chariot190]

Ok so hear me out

 

[Psychomaster35]

Ok so hear me out

Just as long as it's something not over 8-B

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Just as long as it's something not over 8-B

It's 8-A

 

[Psychomaster35]

It's 8-A

Then it isn't allowed

 

[Popted2]

, the Smiths have precog that triggers when they're about to get attacked

isn't Snake resistant to precog?

 

[Chariot190]

isn't Snake resistant to precog?

Oh wait maybe? I forget if we treated that as just hyperbole from Mantis or something legit given psychics actually do have precog in MGS (Ursula for example literally tells Big Boss about Solid Snake and Liquid like 40 years before).

 

[Popted2]

Precognition (Psycho Mantis couldn't read his future due to him having "lost his past and future"

this is what the profile say

 

[Armorchompy]

Weird, I thought it was agreed to be a possibly. Either way the Smiths' precog is probably instinct-based so I don't really think there's overlap here

 

[Popted2]

Weird, I thought it was agreed to be a possibly. Either way the Smiths' precog is probably instinct-based so I don't really think there's overlap here

so what weapons would be more useful against Smith?

 

[Popted2]

okay since this is getting slow, guess i vote Snake, skill is good for both of them and SMith has a lot of powers, but Snake has good arsenal and his weapons will do GREAT damage to Smith thanks to the huge ap difference

 

[Psychomaster35]

Vote counted

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

his weapons will do GREAT damage to Smith thanks to the huge ap difference

I mean they both have piercing weaponry so I don’t think Snake’s AP is really gonna matter

 

[Popted2]

I mean they both have piercing weaponry so I don’t think Snake’s AP is really gonna matter

except that Snake will do even more damage thanks to the huge ap advantage,

but i'll let Chariot and Armorchompy to say the last thing

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I couldn't really tell you who's more skilled at the drop of a hat, but before getting into that I'd like to address a couple of things that Snake can't do in this match, namely stealth is kinda useless here I think, the Smiths have precog that triggers when they're about to get attacked, enhances senses that I think are way better than what Snake's dealt with (they can hear flowers growing, however the **** that works, also Con has daredevil-like hearing), will probably get bloodlust-sensing ESP in a future CRT i make (feel free to discount this eh, since it's still not on the profiles), and can see through invisibility, so that's outta the question.

guys do you wanna vote or give more input?

 

[Popted2]

bump

 

[Armorchompy]

except that Snake will do even more damage thanks to the huge ap advantage,

Not really, in fact the Smiths have a particular property where sometimes bullets they land on a live enemy just completely deconstruct their hit limb (or head)

 

[Popted2]

Not really, in fact the Smiths have a particular property where sometimes bullets they land on a live enemy just completely deconstruct their hit limb (or head)

great, you know what i vote Incon then

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Don't snake have any type of bullet resistend vest?

 

[Armorchompy]

To a degree but he'd have to change into it, presumably he'll start with a more stealth-suited one.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

To a degree but he'd have to change into it, presumably he'll start with a more stealth-suited one.

Why? He kinda isn't in a enviriment that is easy to be stelth and is alread spoted by the enemy

 

[Armorchompy]

Because that's what he usually wears? Metal Gear is "Tactical Espionage Action", not "Tactical Shoot People Action"

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Because that's what he usually wears? Metal Gear is "Tactical Espionage Action", not "Tactical Shoot People Action"

Not whem he can't bee stelth....

But them, Psycho, can snake be wearing optimal gear here?

 

[Armorchompy]

I really don't see why he should be given that benefit, even if he has access to all his equipment, doesn't mean he has prescient information on what to start with.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I really don't see why he should be given that benefit, even if he has access to all his equipment, doesn't mean he has prescient information on what to start with.

And he is fighting 7 guys time that can explode his limbs with meat shoots