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Broly Vs Superman Prime
Prime at Low 2-C
Broly at his strongest
Speed is equalized
Prime at Low 2-C
Broly at his strongest
Speed is equalized
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Wow, this can be made now
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Hooooo boi.
Broly's AP is no joke. In awakened state, he was ragdolling SSG Vegeta and easily keeping up with SSB Goku. In SSJ tho, he dominated both SSB Vegeta and SSB Goku with roaring alone, and was able to keep up with SSJ1 Gogeta, who trumped both SSB Geets and Goku combined in base mode alone. Broly then went LSSJ, forcing Gogeta to use SSB, which resulted in Gogeta completely curbstomping LSSJ Broly. That's unarguably pretty good for a Low 2-C, but I have no exact estimate.
Superboi's AP is apparently, according to our DC experts here, at least 50-1000x above baseline Low 2-C for fighting against Monarch, who stomped an entire legion of Captain Atoms and absorbed their power.
Will wait for more info tho.
Broly's AP is no joke. In awakened state, he was ragdolling SSG Vegeta and easily keeping up with SSB Goku. In SSJ tho, he dominated both SSB Vegeta and SSB Goku with roaring alone, and was able to keep up with SSJ1 Gogeta, who trumped both SSB Geets and Goku combined in base mode alone. Broly then went LSSJ, forcing Gogeta to use SSB, which resulted in Gogeta completely curbstomping LSSJ Broly. That's unarguably pretty good for a Low 2-C, but I have no exact estimate.
Superboi's AP is apparently, according to our DC experts here, at least 50-1000x above baseline Low 2-C for fighting against Monarch, who stomped an entire legion of Captain Atoms and absorbed their power.
Will wait for more info tho.
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50-1000x baseline? That's a huge gap...Hmm...Well if we went with basic multipliers....Base Gogeta is equal to or superior to SSB Goku who is akin to 1st or 2nd UIO Goku. We can't quantify the power differences here but we know that SSB Goku should be superior to Merged Zamasu (due to suppressed Jiren being superior to Merged Zamasu). I am unaware of any calculations for Merged Zamasu so we wlll simply go with SSB Goku = baseline Low 2-C.
The accepted multiplier for Super Saiyan is 40x on the wiki. If base Gogeta is akin to SSB Goku (who are stating is simply baseline Low 2-C) then we can argue that SS Gogeta should be treated as 40x Low 2-C. This puts SS Gogeta just below Superboy Prime's minimum power.
It's extremely difficult to quantify SSB (perhaps impossible) but we know that it should be at least treated as superior to SS3 which is superior to SS2. Due to inconsistencies with the manga it's difficult to discern the multiplier of SS2 but we know it should be treated as over twice the power of SS (due to half of Gohan's SS2 power being around Cell level) so we can at least argue that SS2 Gogeta should be treated as over 80x Low 2-C.
SS3 is magnitudes stronger than SS2. SSG is magnitudes above SS3. SSB is likely 50x SSG. If SS Gogeta is 40x Low 2-C and SS2 Gogeta would be over 80x Low 2-C. If we were to simply claim each form is twice as powerful as the previous it would go: SS = 40x. SS2 = 80x. SS3 = 160x. SSG = 320x. SSB = 640x. This is obviously wrong but I think most people would agree that SSG is vastly superior to just 2x SS3.
This is ALL with the assumption that Base Gogeta and SSB Goku are simply baseline Low 2-C and that SSG is only twice as strong as SS3.
With all of this logic in mind we can discern that SS Broly (by the end of the film) is almost certainly vastly superior to Superboy Prime. Seeing as Broly pushed Gogeta from SS to SSB (a massive gap). Combine this with Broly's ability to rapidly grow from fighting and I feel confident that Superboy Prime has no chance of matching Broly statistically.
Broly is also capable of using Goku's paralysis technique which is a massive advantage over Superboy. Does anyone with better understanding of him know what feats or abilities Superboy has that could aid him here?
The accepted multiplier for Super Saiyan is 40x on the wiki. If base Gogeta is akin to SSB Goku (who are stating is simply baseline Low 2-C) then we can argue that SS Gogeta should be treated as 40x Low 2-C. This puts SS Gogeta just below Superboy Prime's minimum power.
It's extremely difficult to quantify SSB (perhaps impossible) but we know that it should be at least treated as superior to SS3 which is superior to SS2. Due to inconsistencies with the manga it's difficult to discern the multiplier of SS2 but we know it should be treated as over twice the power of SS (due to half of Gohan's SS2 power being around Cell level) so we can at least argue that SS2 Gogeta should be treated as over 80x Low 2-C.
SS3 is magnitudes stronger than SS2. SSG is magnitudes above SS3. SSB is likely 50x SSG. If SS Gogeta is 40x Low 2-C and SS2 Gogeta would be over 80x Low 2-C. If we were to simply claim each form is twice as powerful as the previous it would go: SS = 40x. SS2 = 80x. SS3 = 160x. SSG = 320x. SSB = 640x. This is obviously wrong but I think most people would agree that SSG is vastly superior to just 2x SS3.
This is ALL with the assumption that Base Gogeta and SSB Goku are simply baseline Low 2-C and that SSG is only twice as strong as SS3.
With all of this logic in mind we can discern that SS Broly (by the end of the film) is almost certainly vastly superior to Superboy Prime. Seeing as Broly pushed Gogeta from SS to SSB (a massive gap). Combine this with Broly's ability to rapidly grow from fighting and I feel confident that Superboy Prime has no chance of matching Broly statistically.
Broly is also capable of using Goku's paralysis technique which is a massive advantage over Superboy. Does anyone with better understanding of him know what feats or abilities Superboy has that could aid him here?
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Hmmm.
ABoogieYesSir
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Hoho only a dimension.
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What reality did Broly shatter?
Several alternate dimensions.
Several??? Where sir?
Several alternate dimensions.
Several??? Where sir?
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Nope I saw that fight at least 20 times on YouTube, that feat is low 2-C at best.
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I know that there's a massive scaling chain, I'm just saying that the dimensional feat isn't 2-C.
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IIRC Peter has a blog talking about the scaling chain for DBS.
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Time Trapper or...
Also lol at Broly's spatial shattering being comparable to the Retcon Punch.
Also lol at Broly's spatial shattering being comparable to the Retcon Punch.
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Broly just stomps the boi fra
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Hey! With any luck the director's cut will extend the fight to include the script's fighting scenes of Gogeta and Broly fighting on the surface of the sun and casually clashing across the solar system.
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NoKLOL506 said:
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DC universe is trillions of lightyears in length, its 3-A feats completely stomp DB 3-A and the same logically extends to their low 2-Cs.
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Dont forget Goku himself got 50 times stronger from the universe 6 saga to his rematch against hit
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DB's universe is considerably bigger than the observable universe by a massive margin. Even a calc was done.AguilaR101 said:
Hell, 58-quadrillion-times-FTL Goku goes to the quintillions range with SSBKKx20, then add up the zenkais more and more and we reach even more insane results.
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Where is this calc? Pretty sure DB is normal sized.
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Pretty sure this is it. https://www.narutoforums.org/threads/the-size-of-universe-7-dragon-ball-super.1095359/
I heard it was approved of on the wiki but I could be wrong.
I heard it was approved of on the wiki but I could be wrong.
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No he doesn't. The 48 quads speed is scaled down to him from Whis to begin with and the most he has shown is ~200 quadrillions, realistically Goku's base form is barely in the trillions because even with a 400x double stack of kaiokens he is much weaker than Whis.
The calculation for DBs universe size only makes its diameter around 2x of the observable universe, an universe measuring in the trillions of LY would be up to a 10x times the diameter of the observable universe.
The calculation for DBs universe size only makes its diameter around 2x of the observable universe, an universe measuring in the trillions of LY would be up to a 10x times the diameter of the observable universe.
