Worst Users Of Every Power

[AThe1412]

Nominating Terry Bogard for worst Information Analysis. He is specifically skilled in accurately guessing a woman's measurements. Yeah, that's literally it. Not sure how that would help him in a fight. Morphman's sampler at least tells him potentially useful info about his foes.

 

[Imaginym]

Nominating Terry Bogard for worst Information Analysis. He is specifically skilled in accurately guessing a woman's measurements. Yeah, that's literally it. Not sure how that would help him in a fight. Morphman's sampler at least tells him potentially useful info about his foes.

In theory, knowing the size of parts of your opponent's anatomy could be useful for gauging what ranges you need for your attacks, & where to attack for precise strikes, useful in martial arts. Ex: It could help determine where precisely to swing one's fist to hit a vital spot or a pre-existing injury.

He could also just use that skill/information to psyche someone out, MAYBE Social Influencing stuff.


By contrast, Morphman requiring a still opponent & a substantial amount of time to use his Information Analysis makes it far less practical.

Terry's IA can get info that's useful for SI or just to help him gauge his opponent's physiques or where to attack, & he can put that info to use with his martial arts.

Morphman's IA can't do anything unless he's already putting himself in danger or his opponent is extremely passive, if not practically incapacitated. & if he gets interrupted, it fails, no?

So, I'd say Morphman is worse; Terry can use his at a glance. Morphman requires conditions that are just asking to get torn to shreds in a match.

 

[AThe1412]

In theory, knowing the size of parts of your opponent's anatomy could be useful for gauging what ranges you need for your attacks, & where to attack for precise strikes, useful in martial arts. Ex: It could help determine where precisely to swing one's fist to hit a vital spot or a pre-existing injury.

He could also just use that skill/information to psyche someone out, MAYBE Social Influencing stuff.


By contrast, Morphman requiring a still opponent & a substantial amount of time to use his Information Analysis makes it far less practical.

Terry's IA can get info that's useful for SI or just to help him gauge his opponent's physiques or where to attack, & he can put that info to use with his martial arts.

Morphman's IA can't do anything unless he's already putting himself in danger or his opponent is extremely passive, if not practically incapacitated. & if he gets interrupted, it fails, no?

So, I'd say Morphman is worse; Terry can use his at a glance. Morphman requires conditions that are just asking to get torn to shreds in a match.

One problem with that. It doesn't apply to anyone other than women.

 

[Imaginym]

One problem with that. It doesn't apply to anyone other than women.

Nearly 50% of individuals in the world should be women, & I presume Terry fights some of them.

That's still a substantial sample size where it applies.

 

[Armorchompy]

Terry's is definitely worse. He's in a fighting game and as far as we know never actually uses it against female opponents, so any arguments that it could be useful fall flat. It's not like it's exactly difficult information to gauge to begin with.

 

[Imaginym]

Terry's is definitely worse. He's in a fighting game and as far as we know never actually uses it against female opponents, so any arguments that it could be useful fall flat. It's not like it's exactly difficult information to gauge to begin with.

Forgive my asking, please, but how do we know he isn't using that assessment capacity to augment his fighting capabilities?

 

[AThe1412]

Forgive my asking, please, but how do we know he isn't using that assessment capacity to augment his fighting capabilities?

Because it's supposed to be a gag so there's no mention of him using it to his advantage in combat and his performance against females are the same as males.

 

[Imaginym]

Because it's supposed to be a gag so there's no mention of him using it to his advantage in combat and his performance against females are the same as males.

Fair enough, I suppose.

Competency or lack thereof in useage is a factor, after all, & if he doesn't actually use it to any actual advantage, that's worse useage of his IA than Morphman who can at least apply it in very narrow, dangerous circumstances.

So under that pretense, it has my agreement, for whatever's that worth. (I do genuinely appreciate you indulging my position on matter such as these.)

 

[AThe1412]

Fair enough, I suppose.

Competency or lack thereof in useage is a factor, after all, & if he doesn't actually use it to any actual advantage, that's worse useage of his IA than Morphman who can at least apply it in very narrow, dangerous circumstances.

So under that pretense, it has my agreement, for whatever's that worth. (I do genuinely appreciate you indulging my position on matter such as these.)

Yeah, Terry is a genius when it comes to fighting but none of it has to do with knowing the bust/waist/hip ratio of a woman.

 

[Imaginym]

• Technology Manipulation - Kusuo Saiki (Saiki Kusuo No Psi Nan) - Can upgrade PCs to Windows 10.

Proposing an alternate candidate for this.

• Technology Manipulation (When describing the activities that may be included in The Tent,[1] his eyes depicted the Microsoft Windows Blue Screen and he vocalized the dial-up Internet sound)

While there might be circumstances where someone could want to upgrade a PC to Windows 10, Caine's current Technology Manipulation has the justification of making himself LITERALLY BSOD (In his eyes) & emit a dial-up internet/modem sound, during which he was seemingly immobile & unaware, with his staff hurtling by through the air in the background during this.

Then he resumed his sentence as if nothing had happened.

This was when he was attempting to list off The Digital Circus's activities, which could be common, as he might do this whenever he's introducing a new member to the circus. You don't want that happening often! Right?

When your Technology Manipulation is giving yourself funny eyeballs & making a mildly annoying sound for a few seconds, while ALSO disabling yourself for those few seconds....
(Not to mention the apparent loss of control of at least 1 of his kinds of tools during that, what with the spinning staff.)
Well, I think what Caine currently has is a bit less practical than upgrading a PC to Windows 10, lol.

 

[DontTalkDT]

Proposing an alternate candidate for this.

• Technology Manipulation (When describing the activities that may be included in The Tent,[1] his eyes depicted the Microsoft Windows Blue Screen and he vocalized the dial-up Internet sound)

While there might be circumstances where someone could want to upgrade a PC to Windows 10, Caine's current Technology Manipulation has the justification of making himself LITERALLY BSOD (In his eyes) & emit a dial-up internet/modem sound, during which he was seemingly immobile & unaware, with his staff hurtling by through the air in the background during this.

Then he resumed his sentence as if nothing had happened.

This was when he was attempting to list off The Digital Circus's activities, which could be common, as he might do this whenever he's introducing a new member to the circus. You don't want that happening often! Right?

When your Technology Manipulation is giving yourself funny eyeballs & making a mildly annoying sound for a few seconds, while ALSO disabling yourself for those few seconds....
(Not to mention the apparent loss of control of at least 1 of his kinds of tools during that, what with the spinning staff.)
Well, I think what Caine currently has is a bit less practical than upgrading a PC to Windows 10, lol.

I see two options here:
1. The ability manifests actual technology from nothing to create those effects. Manifesting a strange windows PC and a modem (or technology similar to that) from nothing is probably better than the upgrade beam.
2. No technology is actually manifested and that ability isn't technology manipulation, as no actual technology is involved.

 

[Imaginym]

I see two options here:
1. The ability manifests actual technology from nothing to create those effects. Manifesting a strange windows PC and a modem (or technology similar to that) from nothing is probably better than the upgrade beam.

A strange windows PC with no known features other than blue-screening?
& it's dubious TADC is, in-universe, connected to the internet, considering the whole inescapable isolation, very intentionally finite setting, etc. So it's not like it'd actually be connecting to the internet when making the dial-up sounds.

Also, disabling yourself for a few seconds when trying to remember activities available at your location & being unaware of your total immobility -& so disabled that your train of thought is paused entirely, to be resumed as if everything's normal after- seems concerned.

2. No technology is actually manifested and that ability isn't technology manipulation, as no actual technology is involved.

IIRC, part of the justification has to do with Caine being an AI in the computer program world that is The Amazing Digital Circus, hence him also having Data Manipulation for other stuff.

Although, I do agree with the principle of your skepticism. Other than the extremely accurate likeness, what proof do we have the BSOD in TADC were from an actual computer Caine was connected to or operating, & likewise for the dial-up connection/modem the sound indicated?

Given this uncertainty, maybe it should be a Possibly rating instead?

& mind you, AFAIK, he didn't create a PC nor a modem. At least, it's not certain that he did. We only saw the Blue Screen of Death cover his eyes like a texture, & heard the dial-up modem or such emit from him.

 

[Armorchompy]

I see two options here:
1. The ability manifests actual technology from nothing to create those effects. Manifesting a strange windows PC and a modem (or technology similar to that) from nothing is probably better than the upgrade beam.

It's more "impressive", but I don't think that really makes it better- if I had to wrack my brain to think of uses the Windows 10 thing would probably come out on top slightly. But I'd lean towards the other interpretation.

 

[Imaginym]

It's more "impressive", but I don't think that really makes it better- if I had to wrack my brain to think of uses the Windows 10 thing would probably come out on top slightly. But I'd lean towards the other interpretation.

If you had an ancient brick of a PC, like, IDK, Ford McGucket's old PC from Gravity Falls, it'd probably be useful for it to have the features of a better OS than whatever old stuff it's running on, right?

An actual GUI, compatability with more programs, probably more stuff like controller support, I'd assume, etc.

Windows 10 isn't the best OS, but I'd assume it's a lot better than running something like a stereotypical old computer in fiction that can only do simple wireframes or struggles to do more than wireframes & grids. Or Windows 98 or other such IRL outdated OSes, if that somehow comes up.


To Caine's credits, he did make a maze or something full of office rooms, but only unwittingly & IIRC, admitted he didn't really know what to do with it.
& while it does contain multiple computers, most aren't shown functioning, & 1 that Pomni encounters, IIRC, is very rusted, old, & worn out & not on, unlike the one we see after the zoom-out away from TADC's world before the credits, which has a lit screen as though it's on.

So there's 1 computer we can be confident is on & functional, & it isn't in TADC, while the computers Caine did make aren't known to do anything & could just be nonfunctional props/decorations of an abandoned project of his, given said offices pretty much are an abandoned project.