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Nearly 50% of individuals in the world should be women, & I presume Terry fights some of them.
That's still a substantial sample size where it applies.
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Worst Users Of Every Power
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That's still a substantial sample size where it applies.
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Terry's is definitely worse. He's in a fighting game and as far as we know never actually uses it against female opponents, so any arguments that it could be useful fall flat. It's not like it's exactly difficult information to gauge to begin with.
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Forgive my asking, please, but how do we know he isn't using that assessment capacity to augment his fighting capabilities?
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Because it's supposed to be a gag so there's no mention of him using it to his advantage in combat and his performance against females are the same as males.
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Fair enough, I suppose.
Competency or lack thereof in useage is a factor, after all, & if he doesn't actually use it to any actual advantage, that's worse useage of his IA than Morphman who can at least apply it in very narrow, dangerous circumstances.
So under that pretense, it has my agreement, for whatever's that worth. (I do genuinely appreciate you indulging my position on matter such as these.)
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Yeah, Terry is a genius when it comes to fighting but none of it has to do with knowing the bust/waist/hip ratio of a woman.
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Proposing an alternate candidate for this.
- Technology Manipulation (When describing the activities that may be included in The Tent,[1] his eyes depicted the Microsoft Windows Blue Screen and he vocalized the dial-up Internet sound)
Then he resumed his sentence as if nothing had happened.
This was when he was attempting to list off The Digital Circus's activities, which could be common, as he might do this whenever he's introducing a new member to the circus. You don't want that happening often! Right?
When your Technology Manipulation is giving yourself funny eyeballs & making a mildly annoying sound for a few seconds, while ALSO disabling yourself for those few seconds....
(Not to mention the apparent loss of control of at least 1 of his kinds of tools during that, what with the spinning staff.)
Well, I think what Caine currently has is a bit less practical than upgrading a PC to Windows 10, lol.
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I see two options here:
1. The ability manifests actual technology from nothing to create those effects. Manifesting a strange windows PC and a modem (or technology similar to that) from nothing is probably better than the upgrade beam.
2. No technology is actually manifested and that ability isn't technology manipulation, as no actual technology is involved.
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A strange windows PC with no known features other than blue-screening?
& it's dubious TADC is, in-universe, connected to the internet, considering the whole inescapable isolation, very intentionally finite setting, etc. So it's not like it'd actually be connecting to the internet when making the dial-up sounds.
Also, disabling yourself for a few seconds when trying to remember activities available at your location & being unaware of your total immobility -& so disabled that your train of thought is paused entirely, to be resumed as if everything's normal after- seems concerned.
IIRC, part of the justification has to do with Caine being an AI in the computer program world that is The Amazing Digital Circus, hence him also having Data Manipulation for other stuff.
Although, I do agree with the principle of your skepticism. Other than the extremely accurate likeness, what proof do we have the BSOD in TADC were from an actual computer Caine was connected to or operating, & likewise for the dial-up connection/modem the sound indicated?
Given this uncertainty, maybe it should be a Possibly rating instead?
& mind you, AFAIK, he didn't create a PC nor a modem. At least, it's not certain that he did. We only saw the Blue Screen of Death cover his eyes like a texture, & heard the dial-up modem or such emit from him.
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It's more "impressive", but I don't think that really makes it better- if I had to wrack my brain to think of uses the Windows 10 thing would probably come out on top slightly. But I'd lean towards the other interpretation.
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If you had an ancient brick of a PC, like, IDK, Ford McGucket's old PC from Gravity Falls, it'd probably be useful for it to have the features of a better OS than whatever old stuff it's running on, right?
An actual GUI, compatability with more programs, probably more stuff like controller support, I'd assume, etc.
Windows 10 isn't the best OS, but I'd assume it's a lot better than running something like a stereotypical old computer in fiction that can only do simple wireframes or struggles to do more than wireframes & grids. Or Windows 98 or other such IRL outdated OSes, if that somehow comes up.
To Caine's credits, he did make a maze or something full of office rooms, but only unwittingly & IIRC, admitted he didn't really know what to do with it.
& while it does contain multiple computers, most aren't shown functioning, & 1 that Pomni encounters, IIRC, is very rusted, old, & worn out & not on, unlike the one we see after the zoom-out away from TADC's world before the credits, which has a lit screen as though it's on.
So there's 1 computer we can be confident is on & functional, & it isn't in TADC, while the computers Caine did make aren't known to do anything & could just be nonfunctional props/decorations of an abandoned project of his, given said offices pretty much are an abandoned project.
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Megumin
Megumin is one of the main characters of the light novel, anime, CD drama, and manga series Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku Wo! Megumin is an Archwizard and the first person to join Kazuma's party. Being a Crimson Demon; Megumin possesses a high magic stat which allowed her to take the...
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Skills
Skills (スキル) are various abilities that an adventurer can learn through their Adventurer Card. Skills are any number of abilities learned by spending skill points on empty skills displayed on one's Adventurer Card.[1] Skills can raise proficiency or teach how to perform a specific ability, as...
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Faramir for Empathic Manipulation. All he can do is make people feel an "air" of nobility from him.
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If that counts for EM, then I'm surprised there's not way more instances of that across this site. People getting a feel or "air" about someone is something that commonly occurs in entertainment.
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Empathic Manipulation in its basic form is the ability to influence feelings and emotions. This example is pretty much all that's left of the Númenórean ability to inspire awe in people within Faramir.
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I mean in the end if it's the primary method through which she makes herself stronger i'd struggle to call it bad, it's just used suboptimallyNominating Megumin for worst Power Mimicry.Megumin
Megumin is one of the main characters of the light novel, anime, CD drama, and manga series Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku Wo! Megumin is an Archwizard and the first person to join Kazuma's party. Being a Crimson Demon; Megumin possesses a high magic stat which allowed her to take the...
The Konosuba Wiki have detailed explanations but to summarise, every character can more or less learn some abilities they see by expending skill points, though the effectiveness is based on the user's stats, class, and their affinity with the skill so they can't learn a skill if they either don't have the required stats for it, aren't in the appropriate class, or have some sort of dislike towards the skill that may force them to invest more skill points than others or even render them never able to learn it. Furthermore, skill points aren't that easy to gain and most people don't just use them to copy any skill they see mid-combat because there's no known way to unlearn skills or refund skill points. As if the non-combat applicable nature isn't already bad enough, the reason why I picked Megumin specifically is because she absolutely refuses to learn any other spell besides Explosion despite being a talented Arch Wizard who can learn many different types of magic if she so wishes. Literally the only things she invests her skill points in are increasing the destructive power of Explosion and reducing cast time.Skills
Skills (スキル) are various abilities that an adventurer can learn through their Adventurer Card. Skills are any number of abilities learned by spending skill points on empty skills displayed on one's Adventurer Card.[1] Skills can raise proficiency or teach how to perform a specific ability, as...
Seems good
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Her usage of skill points in and of itself isn't the bad thing because it does make her stronger even if not efficiently. I'm specifically referring to the Power Mimicry aspect of it. She practically denies herself that ability.
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I'd like to nominate Koichi Zenigata for marksmanship, while he's a complete master at this point of the series early on in his career in Part 2 he was such a bad shot he couldn't even shoot himself when hit with a suicide beam
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NGL, when I read all this my mind immediately went to Sanji who has the exact same type of information analysis with the only difference being he cannot fight a woman to save his life
Though it seems like his profile lacks this trait of his, likely due to just how much of a non-factor it is LOL
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Also I'm assuming that the abilities can't be limited versions, so I'll nominate Lupin III for Automatic Translation due to him having a device capable of translating Dolphin...... which requires him to wrap around a Dolphin's body...... which requires a large computer system on a boat to operate..... and he doesn't have dolphins as optional equipment nor any means of actually controlling the animal without just trying to convince it to do something LOL
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Limited stuff is allowed I think. Who would you nominate if that's the case?
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Zenigata has limited resurrection which only restarts his heart if he hears Lupin's name being said (something the grand majority of opponents wouldn't even think of doing)
And when I saw Telepathy my mind immediately jumped towards Krillin due to being capable of projecting image training fights in his mind which isn't combat applicable and would literally change nothing as it would just be the equivalent of fighting his opponent normally
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Eh, at least he actually comes back to life immediately. Miss Chalice needs to convince someone to eat the cookie and she only gains a physical body for a few minutes (or at least that's what's written on the OP but @Flashlight237 said that it can apparently be a lot longer) before turning back into a ghost again, though she does have the benefit of being able to interact with others while dead. There's also Westley who needs someone else to administer the resurrection pill for him while he's still "slightly alive" so it won't even work if he's fully dead and he'll be paralyzed for a couple of hours or so after coming back. Honestly, I think Westley's case is far worse and deserves to be the one added to the OP.
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Honestly I'd consider that infinitely better because I can name random characters who would just eat a random cookie, regardless of the amount of convincing. Saying a specific name that they'd have no real context about is another story, plus Zenigata doesn't get any means to tempt them into doing so. Plus Zenigata's resurrection is only applicable in heart failures, any other form of death is still permeant as oppose to Chalice who I believe can revive from much more
I don't even think that classifies as resurrection since the actual definition and the wiki itself requires the target to be dead first, that ain't resurrection that's just healing
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I nominate Ichiban Kasuga for worst Vibration Manipulation. He just uses... "massagers". Sure they make decent weapons, but the actual vibration part doesn't do anything.
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Combat wise? Useless. But they can possibly do "something" depending on how he uses them, especially in conjunction with his Social Influencing.
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I guess he could in theory do something with them, but I think whatever he could theoretically do is worse than "causing shaking in a shop" which is what's on there currently for worst vibration manip.
Also, I should have mentioned that the "massager" in question is a baseball bat-sized vibrator... I don't know who he's socially influencing with that one...
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Ainz Ooal Gown
Ainz Ooal Gown (アインズ・ウール・ゴウン), formerly known as Momonga (モモンガ), is the main protagonist of Overlord. He is the guildmaster of Ainz Ooal Gown and regarded as the highest of the Almighty 41 Supreme Beings by the NPCs of the Great Tomb of Nazarick. As the Sorcerer King of the Sorcerous Kingdom...
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Now I know what you may be saying "What? Why would it be worst?"
...Ainz's healing potions would hurt him to drink, because they are of the holy element. So they're literally worthless in combat
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I was thinking Ainz too, however I quickly remembered he doesn't apply to it due to him having a very good reason for it. He keeps them on him so he can heal allies with it in case of emergencies, which doesn't make it completely worthless in combat.
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You mean the allies he rarely has on the battlefield with him?
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From what I can tell, the thread takes any possible situation into consideration. FFS someone just tried to argue Ichiban's vibration manipulation having some form of use. Ainz has plenty of scenarios he could theoretically be put in where the potions can have a use, hell he could theoretically use them in-universe as a means of dealing damage. Just because it's worthless to him/he barley ever uses it doesn't mean it's a bad power on it's own right.
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Theoretically it can also heal other 4th wall breakers if they meet certain requirements, but that also goes against Spamtom since literally the only people to use this power actively fight him LOL
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If that's the case, fine, but yeah nothing Ainz could bring forward wouldn't be hurt by trying to drink a healing potion for combat lol
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Requirements like being present, since the F1 heal, IIRC, has Spamton Angel/Cherub things come down & kiss the Delta Warriors, so said 4th wall breakers would have to be there.
It's also unclear if Spamton's doing it out of obligation or such.
True.
For clarification, HealDeal says on Kris's page on the Deltarune Wiki:
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Requires 50% TP. This ACT is only available against Spamton in Chapter 2 on a normal route. Kris heals 60 HP and advances Spamton's dialogue in battle.(TP being "Tension Points".)
I'm not clear on if it advances his mercy meter or something, but supposedly Spamton is trying to set up some kind of agreement/arrangement with Kris, which is how the fight normally ends non-violently.
So the HealDeal part might be used as part of Social Influencing.... But still requires Kris to go along with it, & Spamton can advance his dialogue/goals in that battle without healing Kris, too.
Requiring Tension Points could be considered game mechanics, or considered a "dramatic tension" "requirement", lol.
But his generals of the Tomb of Nazarick aren't all undead, nor is his "Lord of the Forest" pet hamster thing, right?
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all 4 of them that wouldn't be harmed. 3 of which having healing abilities that are much more reliable then getting a potion.
Also why is the 9-A hamster in consideration here that thing is actually worthless in a real fight where Ainz would actually consider whipping out a potion
Also I was speaking about on his own in a fight
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Nah, the F1 heal should be the one that gets the list. Not only is it only activated under highly specific conditions but it's not something Spamton has any control over. Even in the Snowgrave Route where he backstabs you and fully intends on killing you it's possible to hit F1 in order to heal yourself, plus it comes with no cost meaning if Spamton Neo fights a proper 4th Wall Breaker (which he does do) then his own healing ability screws him over
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Uh, what do you mean 4? The only one who takes damage from them is Shalltear because of her being undead from what I know. Albedo, Demiurge, Cocytus, Aura, Mare, Victim, and (presumably) Gargantua would all have them work fine. There's also Sebas in consideration since he's relevant enough to count
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Albedo and Demiurge would be harmed by the holy element, Victim is like 9-B, Gargantua can't drink and is mindless, and all three of Aura and Mare(Mare has healing abilities) and Sebas can heal.
