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That'd probably work yeah, although no profile means they can't go here
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Worst Users Of Every Power
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To the Treasures of Ruins' (dis)credit, their Sealing is involuntary, out of their control, easily negated, & requires them being at a specific place.
If someone was in a position where it'd be worse than death if they stayed alive/accessible, Sealing like Phalanx did sounds worthwhile; What if a body snatcher wants your body, a zombie wants your brains or a vampire wants your blood, & especially if they would benefit from getting that, Sealing yourself could be a good way to prevent your enemies benefiting, potentially helping innocents, & especially allies/teammates one may have.
Also, I wonder what we count Final Gambit as?
Final Gambit (Japanese: いのちがけ Life Risk)
The user risks everything to attack the target. The user faints but inflicts damage equal to its own HP.
Because Shedinja can use this, & in gameplay, its max HP is 1.
IDK if we consider Shedinja's unique, hardcoded-to-not-obey-standard-HP-growth-trends single hit points to be game mechanics, in favor of assuming it can take more than 1 hit because Stamina or such, but....
Well, again, in gameplay, Shedinja's Max HP is 1. The 2nd lowest base HP is Diglett's, & even a Diglett with the lowest possible HP (Level 1, HP Individual Value of 0.), it will still have 11 HP.
So with this move, Shedinja can't KO anything that's not already damaged with anything less than 11 hits, but using it once makes Shedinja faint.
'course, for Life Manipulation, Shedinja inherits the moves of a Nincada, so it gets Leech Life, which is good Life Manipulation/Absorption, so Shedinja isn't a bad user of Life Manipulation in general.
There's also Regigigas's Slow Start Ability, which puts its ATK & Speed at half for 5 turns after starting a battle, with this count being reset if Regigigas faints or is recalled to a Poke Ball.
& Archeops's Defeatist, which has its ATK, Sp. Atk & Speed halved if it's at half HP or less.
But Defeatist could just be argued as Game Mechanics &/or Character/Species-Induced Stupidity.
They might be candidates for worst Statistics Reduction users.
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He has type 4 immortality and I am not sure if ghouls leave behind a body
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Oh yeah, good shout
Yeah but they don't have a profile, so.
Those don't really exist in GnG. Well, zombies do, but they're like 9-B so not much of a chance Phalanx is losing to them.
I mean they also have good stat reduction stuff so idk. Defeatist is probably not "proper" stat reduction either, Archeops is probably just getting freaked out and fighting less effectively as a result
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Point is, sometimes it's better to be sealed than let an opponent have access to you. Being at risk of being interrogated, or robbed of powerful stuff that could endanger your allies, etc. Having the choice to do that is good.
But yes, his Sealing is still quite limited & impractical.
True.
After all, Rock Smash & Bulldoze are better than deterimental, I suppose, lol.
Yeah, as I said, Defeatist is probably just Game Mechanics &/or Character/Species-Induced Stupidity.
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Again he has type 4 immortality and based on this ghouls doesn't leave bodies (Firebrand's death animation has him burst into flames to but I don't wanna hunt down a clip) and someone could just pick up the crest to gain Phalanx's power
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Ah. So if he Seals himself, anyone taking him the crest grants the taker Phalanx's powers, too?
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I am not entirely sure given Arma specifically sealed his power in the crest for firebrand and it was a different crest but it seems possible.
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How about Frieza for transformation and body control?
His final form is actually his true form, but he uses his body manipulation and transformation to weaken himself to less than 1/50th of his power. The only real benefit to this is that it lets him reduce the stamina loss caused by his bad ki control.
His final form is actually his true form, but he uses his body manipulation and transformation to weaken himself to less than 1/50th of his power. The only real benefit to this is that it lets him reduce the stamina loss caused by his bad ki control.
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That sort of does seem like a convincing argument.
Another arguable benefit is letting have a smaller, less threatening form to keep foes off guard. But that's something A LOT of Transformation users can do.
& I guess his 2nd form has horns, which he did actually use, & slightly bigger limbs for slightly more range.
Plus, doesn't he take a notable amount of time to transform?
It's also voluntary.
Still, in the absence of any contenders....
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Father's probably worse than Body Control but yeah that kinda works for Transformation, though it does have some use
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Love to see some other Demon's Crest enjoyers, btw
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I loved playing it but I used a Nintendo online subscription and currently I don’t have it so now I can’t play it. Does Phalanx out do Deathtoll for useless sealing
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Westley might be a challenger to the title for Resurrection: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Westley_(The_Princess_Bride)
He literally can't resurrect himself, and his resurrection isn't even hax. It's a pill that he needs someone else to administer into his system. Oh, and it needs to be given to him while he's "mostly" dead, not straight-up dead, apparently.
Also, Morphman would go for Information Analysis: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Morphman
His molecular sampler literally needs him to be up close to his foes AND for his foes to stay still! How stupid is that?!
He literally can't resurrect himself, and his resurrection isn't even hax. It's a pill that he needs someone else to administer into his system. Oh, and it needs to be given to him while he's "mostly" dead, not straight-up dead, apparently.
Also, Morphman would go for Information Analysis: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Morphman
His molecular sampler literally needs him to be up close to his foes AND for his foes to stay still! How stupid is that?!
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Yo, I just discovered this thread lol. I think we can nominate Combat Warriors player (the first and probably the only Roblox character that's going to be on the list) for Black Hole Creation (Gotta make a CRT to add it along with the other disasters though).
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Could you tag me in that once you’ve made it?
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Sure. Will make it later today.
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Made the CRT.
To @Armorchompy, if you have seen the CRT, it should be obvious why the Player should get the spot. They have zero control over the black hole once it is created and it destroys everyone and everything, including themself. It's at best a last resort suicide attack.
(Also, do give your input on the CRT if you wish)
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Also, nominating Mindy K- I mean, HBO Velma for worst Martial Arts.
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Won't be added, cause no profile, but I just randomly thought of Perfume by Süskind.
The protagonist, Jean-Baptiste Grenouille, has super smell that he can use to create incredible perfumes. In what I would call his final "key" he makes one which makes people desire him so much that they literally tear him to pieces and eat him.
And that would probably be the worst fragrance manipulation.
Too bad I'm too lazy to reread the book in order to make a profile.
The protagonist, Jean-Baptiste Grenouille, has super smell that he can use to create incredible perfumes. In what I would call his final "key" he makes one which makes people desire him so much that they literally tear him to pieces and eat him.
And that would probably be the worst fragrance manipulation.
Too bad I'm too lazy to reread the book in order to make a profile.
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IS the book available of SparkNotes?
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Is it worse then the current title holder?
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At a glance, I don't think so. Although other sites have detailed summaries and analysis if that's what you're looking for.
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Aight, sounds like a good place to start.
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R.O.B. (Smash Bros.) for Explosion Manipulation, Portal Creation, Void Manipulation, and Spatial Manipulation not on the profile directly but via subspace bombs which required 2 members of the R.O.B. Squad to start the three minute timer before it explodes and destroys the robots, it is possible to go in and out of subspace thru the the void left behind given bowser and ganondorf come out of subspace with gunship from the void made at the Isle of the Ancients then dip back into subspace after the ship is destroyed.
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He does have decent explosion manip with items, but fair on the rest, although i'd still say it's decently useful.
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how are the others useful he needs at least one other R.O.B. to have a chance at using it? And again, Phalanx vs Deathtoll for worse sealing
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these two have at least 2 separate listings of the powers they earned spots for The Lord of Light has "limited Empathic Manipulation (Bells of Beckoning can be used to lure enemies to a certain area mid-seige, causing them to favor it over any other target)" as well as "minor Empathic Manipulation (Those in the presence of the Master, of their creations, or simply offering prayers to them will feel a sense of sanctity and peace)" and Planet Meteo has "Energy Manipulation (If three Meteos of the same color align, they will cause a chain reaction that propels them and anything above them upwards through a powerful energy wave)" as well as "Energy Manipulation and Deconstruction (Capable of using Planet Impacts, creating a light that annihilates other substances on contact and propels away Meteos)"
Notably both profiles were edited/created by armorchompy after this thread started and did not have them listed separately before armorchompy interacted with them.
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I just forgot that they had that when i added them tbh
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fair
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i'll make changes uhh
when i remember probably
when i remember probably
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Hey, don't forget my post with Westley and Morphman.
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Do specific Regeneration users count? Because Sauron's Low-Godly regeneration kinda sucks by his Third Age key. Takes over one thousand years to recover from losing his body and once he does recover, it takes him centuries to reach the level of Galadriel and co (Necromancer) and over a thousand years more to reach his level in Lotr.
His peak around then would be Mountain level, down from possibly High Universal. It's pretty garbage regen considering how long it takes and how crippled he is.
His peak around then would be Mountain level, down from possibly High Universal. It's pretty garbage regen considering how long it takes and how crippled he is.
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Yeah, that does kinda suck, really. Usually fictional characters regenerating vs real life animals regenerating is like pitting Sonic the Hedgehog against a real-life hedgehog.
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Ikr. Being evil tanks your ability to do anything in LotR for the long run.
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They do but I'd say the current Regen example is basically useless over Sauron's eventually useful regen, so idk if he qualifies.
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Fair on Morphman, I feel like Westley's resurrection is basically on the same level as Miss Chalice's so idk which I should keep.
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