Woody Woodpecker Discussion Thread

[Accelerated_Evolution]

And you call yourself "Accelerated"

Pathetic

My Evolution is accelerated buddy, not my initial stage

 

[Dragonite007]

What are you cooking?

New key for Walrus, new abilities for the Woodpecker family, finally a AP scale to the siblings, etc

I would try Low 1-C again, But @Ultima_Reality thread reduce own chance from almost 0 to minus one

 

[Phsccarvalho]

New key for Walrus

Is it the key to the vampire?

new abilities for the Woodpecker family

Something in general for Woodpeckers?

I would try Low 1-C again, But @Ultima_Reality thread reduce own chance from almost 0 to minus one

My biggest regret.

But anyway, this is no longer Low 1-C, but 1-A but with that fictional thing it cannot affect the real.

So it wouldn't do any good.

Looney Tunes is being downgraded for this reason.

 

[Dragonite007]

Is it the key to the vampire?

Yep

Something in general for Woodpeckers?

Not for Woody, for his girlfriends and nieces

 

[Phsccarvalho]

The thing about Woody basically redesigning himself (in the metafictional context) is giving me the idea of trying High-Godly.

But it is difficult to look for examples to base yourself on when from that level things become impossible to show, most have some statement about them.

I should learn not to try anything too high (haha)

 

[Phsccarvalho]

In a series of (very metafictional) demonstrations of how to draw the characters from his cartoon, Woody manages to redraw himself from 0 to the demonstration without using anything like a pencil or pen.
This style of drawing explanation has been shown before here, but in the top scan Woody draws himself instead of letting the animator do it for him.
So, would this be narrative regeneration?

Can this go forward?

What do you think? Or do you have something to add?

 

[Dragonite007]

Can this go forward?

What do you think? Or do you have something to add?

High-Godly [Plot]

 

[Phsccarvalho]

High-Godly [Plot]

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Can this go forward?

What do you think? Or do you have something to add?

You need more proof for High-Godly

Looking at the scans, Woody is just regenerating his body and mind

Also, how canon this is?

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Looking at the scans, Woody is just regenerating his body and mind

It is impossible to show conceptual/narrative regeneration visually, in the way that the body and soul are. I already asked this, that's why I showed that the drawing thing is in the metafictional context, I only asked it here, but obviously I'm going to ask the staff. I'm not crazy enough to make a crt of this without support from the staff first.

Also, how canon this is?

These are letters signed as copyright by Walter Lantz. I don't think anyone will complain about canonicity so strongly, unless that someone is you.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

It is impossible to show conceptual/narrative regeneration visually, in the way that the body and soul are. I already asked this, that's why I showed that the drawing thing is in the metafictional context, I only asked it here, but obviously I'm going to ask the staff

It being on a "Metafictional context" doesn't really affects the regeneration, since the regeneration ins't Metafictional by itself

I'm not crazy enough to make a crt of this without support from the staff first.

Coward

These are letters signed as copyright by Walter Lantz. I don't think anyone will complain about canonicity so strongly, unless that someone is you.

No, they will, lol

You can't bypass the rules about canon just because we are talking about a cartoon with a not-so-explicit continuity

 

[Phsccarvalho]

It being on a "Metafictional context" doesn't really affects the regeneration, since the regeneration ins't Metafictional by itself

For the narrative, yes, plot regeneration is exactly that.

For something to have plot hax, you have to be in the metafictional context. If you are regenerating from the plot, then the metafictional context has to be presented.

Coward

yes

You can't bypass the rules about canon just because we are talking about a cartoon with a not-so-explicit continuity

The main pattern is this

The generally agreed-upon definition is that the work by the original author and creator of the fictional setting is canonical, unless the author or the copyright holder declares otherwise

We also have the tertiary canon thing. Don't pay attention to this, since the letters are copyrighted, but even the tertiary canon is valid if there are no contradictions. The cartoon has often shown the metafictional aspect

In addition a tertiary canon will be allowed. The tertiary canon consists of official adaptations not overseen by the author, which do not modify or contradict source material.


Any changes based on tertiary canon will only be accepted if they are not contradicted by any instances of another canon, with regards to either the character power-scale, or logical inconsistencies (and plot holes).

For the things that would remove from canon, we have this.

When different source materials give different versions of the same feat, and by that they contradict each other in the depiction of the feat, the primary canon takes precedence over the secondary canon.

If the feat is correctly depicted over multiple canons any of these can be used to judge the feat. Should different results be reached by judging the feat through multiple canons, the result of the primary canon will have priority.

So for most manga series, that means the original manga is canonical, while the anime is not (since the anime is simply an adaptation of the manga made by others). Databooks are considered secondary canon since scans tend to contradict them. It should be noted that this is often evaluated on a case-by-case basis.

The first two have nothing to do with what I showed and the third talks about the anime/manga relationship. But he talks about the adaptation not being valid because it was done by someone else, but in the case of the letters of lesson, we have the copyright of Walter Lantz
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Finally we have the alternative canon thing. Not very relevant for Woody, since besides the cards showing them from the primary canon, it's still something of the verse that they have versions of themselves and being the same character.

Certain franchises, and/or characters, due to their long running statuses and great popularity, often coupled with dozens if not hundreds of writers over the decades, find themselves containing numerous versions of their characters considered "canonical", most of which display vastly different levels of power.

So I don't see anything on the canonicity page that disqualifies the stories of the letters.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

For the narrative, yes, plot regeneration is exactly that.

For something to have plot hax, you have to be in the metafictional context. If you are regenerating from the plot, then the metafictional context has to be presented.

From where did you get Plot Hax from?

The only metafictional thing on the images is Woody breaking the fourth wall, the regeneration itself ins´t metafictional or on a narrative level

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I don´t know why you wrote such a text when i don´t said it didn´t qualfied as canon, i just said that people would ask about it's canonicity

 

[Phsccarvalho]

From where did you get Plot Hax from?

The only metafictional thing on the images is Woody breaking the fourth wall, the regeneration itself ins´t metafictional or on a narrative level

Because it is generally derived from the hax plot page. Like conceptual regeneration, like, the link goes to the referring page.

I don´t know why you wrote such a text when i don´t said it didn´t qualfied as canon, i just said that people would ask about it's canonicity

This way I save my own message and use it later if anyone asks.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Does anyone have an account to see this?

The Walter Lantz story : with Woody Woodpecker and friends : Adamson, Joe : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

254 p. : 24 cm

archive.org

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Another thing making reference to him working as an actor in Hollywood.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Can this go forward?

What do you think? Or do you have something to add?

Woody probably has EE through the pencil he has. At the base, other than the animator's pen.

One interesting thing is that Woody draws the others.

Can you imagine giving him the ability to create/summon Walter Lantz characters? (cosplaying DBH characters)

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Where's everyone?

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Where's everyone?

We already created the most important profiles, now we should let the verse die in peace

 

[Phsccarvalho]

We already created the most important profiles, now we should let the verse die in peace

could someone make matches.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

could someone make matches.

I don´t know any good match for Woody where he doesn´t gets stomped tbh

 

[Phsccarvalho]

I don´t know any good match for Woody where he doesn´t gets stomped tbh

There are other characters on the verse.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

There are other characters on the verse.

I think the same apply to them

 

[Phsccarvalho]

most important profiles

Isn't the "pé de pano" important?

Also, Woody from the first film is missing. It's easy to do, but it requires calculations, and Dragonite is busy with Turma da Monica

I think the same apply to them

I think Wally vampire and Buzz could do something cool, the problem is 4-C. At this level, it's difficult to find a character in the middle of hax.

 

[Dragonite007]

Where's everyone?

I rewatched the 2018 series, and the most that I could find to the characters was this:

Spoiler

Wally Walrus

Additional Limbs, Power Bestowal, Corruption [Type 1], Mind Manipulation (Was transformed in a vampire by Chilly Willy, should have all the vampire-based abilities)

Winne Woodpecker
Space Survival (Can survive in Space)

Splinter and Knothead​

Scaling to Woody in AP (They can harm him)
Space Survival (Can survive in Space)
Transmutation (With Science Kit)

Animator Pencil
Age Manipulation (Created a well of youth that rejuvenated Woody)

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Animator Pencil

I think it's better to make a profile for the pen, easier to index.

In addition to adding other powers of hers that are under plot/RW, such as making explosives, living beings, etc.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

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Spoiler

Wait, are you doing a profile of the animator?

Can we do this? I mean, in terms of levels. Since there is no relationship R > f, the durability would be unknown, right?

It would be good for Woody's profile, since Woody has him as help, but in terms of indexing I don't know.

 

[Dragonite007]

Spoiler

Wait, are you doing a profile of the animator?

Can we do this? I mean, in terms of levels. Since there is no relationship R > f, the durability would be unknown, right?

It would be good for Woody's profile, since Woody has him as help, but in terms of indexing I don't know.

How do you get this info?

Spoiler

I mean he has more than one apperance and has feats, which is more than some chacaters in the wiki

 

[Phsccarvalho]

How do you get this info?

Cosmic Awareness.

I detect any changes made to any sandbox.

EDIT: Together with the animator, profile the pen if you can.

 

[Dragonite007]

EDIT: Together with the animator, profile the pen if you can.

The Animator

The Pen will need a CRT, because affect 4 profiles

 

[Phsccarvalho]

The Animator

Universe level+ (The Animator resides in the real world[6] and sees Woody's entire universe, which has cosmos and time,[7][2] as just data on a screen[5])

After the last sentence you can put "It's responsible for animating the episodes of the cartoon [then you put the link to that scene with Woody saying "how are they going to draw the cartoon now?"], it should be comparable to Woody, who erased the world of the drawing.

Striking Strength: Universe level+

Durability: Universe level+

I don't know if we can do that.

There is no relationship R > f. The Low 2-C is simply for the capacity of the pen, and even if he could do it without the pen, there would be no way to scale to the physical.

The Pen will need a CRT, because affect 4 profiles

Creating the pen profile (weapon profile) would not require a crt.

To implement in the profile, we would just say in some crt that a pen profile has been created and we will be replacing the P&A section

 

[Phsccarvalho]

The Animator

Animator Pen - Complementing

There are some things derived from the power of "creation" that can also be listed separately if it is used in an offensive way or something like that. I saw it on the creation page.
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At the moment I still have to finish editing another verse, but how about we do the following.

After I sort things out, we create these two pages first.

And then you and I do the same crt for the things we plan?

You with the new powers, scale of Woody's nephews, etc.

I'm going to fix a few things. Canonicity of the two films, replacement of the P&A section for those who use the pen, etc.

 

[Dragonite007]

Animator Pen - Complementing

There are some things derived from the power of "creation" that can also be listed separately if it is used in an offensive way or something like that. I saw it on the creation page.
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At the moment I still have to finish editing another verse, but how about we do the following.

After I sort things out, we create these two pages first.

And then you and I do the same crt for the things we plan?

You with the new powers, scale of Woody's nephews, etc.

I'm going to fix a few things. Canonicity of the two films, replacement of the P&A section for those who use the pen, etc.

You could probably write that the pencil can draw Woody and other characters in it profile

 

[Phsccarvalho]

You could probably write that the pencil can draw Woody and other characters in it profile

I think I'll do that later.

Woody can do the same thing with a regular pencil, so I want to make a crt just focused on that so I can see if it will be accepted that characters drawn like this have the same powers or are "new" (limited to their own talents)
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Additionally, use the pen's AP justification for the Animator. Just exchanging two parts.

(The Animator resides in the real world a place that sees Woody's entire universe,[3][4] which has cosmos and time,[5][6] as just data on a screen.[1] The Animator uses his pen to draw the cartoon world,[1][2] and is comparable to Buzz Buzzard who used the Animator's Pen to erase the entire cartoon world[1][Notes 2])

Of course without these two notes. I just put it so people know where the classification came from, as it will be a new profile created. And the animator doesn't need it since it comes from the pen.

When the pen profile is created (probably tomorrow), you link these two parts in bold with the link to the profile.

(The Animator resides in the real world a place that sees Woody's entire universe,[3][4] which has cosmos and time,[5][6] as just data on a screen.[1] The Animator uses his pen to draw the cartoon world,[1][2] and is comparable to Buzz Buzzard who used the Animator's Pen to erase the entire cartoon world[1][Notes 2])

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Woody Woodpecker: Small adjustments and New Profile

Hello Verse page Woody Wooodpecker Animator's Pen Votes Agree (3): @DarkDragonMedeus, @Elizhaa, @Theglassman12 Neutral (0): Disagree (0):

vsbattles.com

EDIT: I didn't talk about the canonicity of the two films because despite the screenshot I have, I couldn't find the source (website or something) that says they are two different/unconnected continuities.

 

[Dragonite007]

Of course without these two notes. I just put it so people know where the classification came from, as it will be a new profile created. And the animator doesn't need it since it comes from the pen.

When the pen profile is created (probably tomorrow), you link these two parts in bold with the link to the profile.

the profile is completed now.

We just need a good image

 

[Phsccarvalho]

the profile is completed now.

We just need a good image

The "Larg Size", leave it below the "Toonforce" (Yes, I am distressed by the P&A order unfortunately)

Since the Animator has the pen as standard equipment, above the madness resistance and below the dimensional travel place the phrase "You have access to the animator's pen...", to leave it both in the standard equipment and in the P&A (since the P&A is the first thing anyone sees)

Regarding the tier issue, I don't know if we are forced to physically put 4-C. Since this dries the AP instead of the SS right?

And I'm missing the period after the screen.

Attack Potency: Universe level+ (The Animator resides in the real world[5] and sees Woody's entire universe, which has cosmos and time,[6][2] as just data on a screen[7] The Animator uses his pen to draw the cartoon world,[1][7] and is comparable to Buzz Buzzard who used the Animator's Pen to erase the entire cartoon world[7])

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For the image, just try to find an image of the good hand? That's basically all we have, apart from a photo of Walter Lantz himself, which I wouldn't use because he's a real person. I don't think he participated in the cartoon enough to link his image to the cartoon.

 

[Dragonite007]

The "Larg Size", leave it below the "Toonforce" (Yes, I am distressed by the P&A order unfortunately)

Since the Animator has the pen as standard equipment, above the madness resistance and below the dimensional travel place the phrase "You have access to the animator's pen...", to leave it both in the standard equipment and in the P&A (since the P&A is the first thing anyone sees)

Regarding the tier issue, I don't know if we are forced to physically put 4-C. Since this dries the AP instead of the SS right?

And I'm missing the period after the screen.

Done

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Done

You just need to have changed the sentence and not put all the powers of the pen, can I edit it for you if you allow?

 

[Dragonite007]

You just need to have changed the sentence and not put all the powers of the pen, can I edit it for you if you allow?

Yes