Wonder of U is canonly the strongest stand in Jojoverse(canon)?

[Thelastmlg]

Anyone who upgrades jojo to get acausality type 4 is under the effects of chariot's stand

JOHNNY B GOOD

i curious on those alternate reasons.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

tbh I don’t see Wonder of U being better than GER in any context

Don't think I ever said that (you're probably thinking of cloozuma).
But the statement comes from early Part 8 (if you count noncanon hype, mid part 8). So obviously before WoU who's only like 2 years old.

Still, I'd put GER above him for a handful of reasons none the less, but they're totally different anyhow, not something that you'd go A>B on.

Though GER is implied hyped above Spin to an extent, not that it means anything or can be used at all but eh.

 

[GiornoGiovannaF]

how would wonder of u and love train interact ?

 

[ZillertheBucko]

calamity itself would likely be considered misfortune, and thus do absolutely nothing
but it's not like d4c would be able to step outside the walls and do anything, that'd just get him killed
they'd pretty much just stalemate for eternity

how would wonder of u and love train interact ?

 

[Cloozuma]

Don't think I ever said that (you're probably thinking of cloozuma).
But the statement comes from early Part 8 (if you count noncanon hype, mid part 8). So obviously before WoU who's only like 2 years old.

I have arrived.

So uh, why is calamity superior to a 4D ability that works on a timeless void that cancels abilities?

 

[ZillertheBucko]

I have arrived.

So uh, why is calamity superior to a 4D ability that works on a timeless void that cancels abilities?

it isn't

 

[Cloozuma]

it isn't

oh, I was asking why did someone suspect that, forgot to add those

 

[ZillertheBucko]

by the way since we're talking about wonder of U
does calamity count as fate manipulation?

 

[M3X_2.0]

No. GER is still the strongest and Love Train hard counters Wonder Of U.

 

[Cloozuma]

by the way since we're talking about wonder of U
does calamity count as fate manipulation?

Law Manip at best, there's a bit of fate manip

 

[Thelastmlg]

Yes, it is the flow and stuff, and i'm pretty sure it bent actions to deal future damage, like the airplane peace falling or the doggystyle kick against go beyond

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Law Manip at best, there's a bit of fate manip

well I feel like by nature it should be probability manipulation along with maybe some statistics amplification since he can increase the damage of anything, including rain

 

[Thelastmlg]

I thought that too, though chariot's sandbox lists it as dura neg, which is possible too

 

[ZillertheBucko]

I thought that too, though chariot's sandbox lists it as dura neg, which is possible too

possibly, but I'm unsure if that would fall under nlf?

 

[Cloozuma]

I thought that too, though chariot's sandbox lists it as dura neg, which is possible too

probability manip is somewhat dura neg

 

[ZillertheBucko]

I guess this should technically mean Josuke gets resistance to probability manipulation via go beyond?

 

[M3X_2.0]

No, his bubbles get NEP.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

oh

 

[Thelastmlg]

so is ger getting nep interaction or something?

 

[M3X_2.0]

No, GER is getting nothing. It doesn't need "[INSERT ABILITY HERE] negation", RtZ will just do its work.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Just an example ^

Its not because a Stand has some ultra big giga chad ability that GER needs to negate it and reflects this in the profile, RtZ will just "lol nope" it

 

[Cloozuma]

so is ger getting nep interaction or something?

Nope, tho the description about RTZ might need some additions about reverting NEP attacks

 

[ZillertheBucko]

I mean there's no reason GER with his current profile doesn't beat soft and wet

 

[ZillertheBucko]

by the way the crt was debunked so I think this should be closed