Wisemon meets Yhwach

[PaChi2]

Wisemo and Yhwach at his strongest (aka all SR abilities in the profile)

SBA

Speed equal



The God-Emperor of the Quincies

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Uh hum, Almighty gg

 

[Sixo_Bullets]

What's Yhwach start with if you don't mind me asking.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Almighty

And then whatever else he needs

 

[Sixo_Bullets]

I see.

I'll wait for further input before I vote.

Yhwach might win via Almighty alone from what it seems xd.

 

[PaChi2]

Uh hum, Almighty gg

I mean, Chrono Breaker counters Almighty.

 

[Paul_Frank]

How?

It stops or erases time and Yhwach could just almighty it

 

[PaChi2]

How?

It stops or erases time and Yhwach could just almighty it

Time erasure.

No time, no future manipulation.

Time stop.

Time gets stopped. No future.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Yhwach sees it being used in the future though since almighty is passive and nulls it

 

[PaChi2]

Yhwach sees it being used in the future though since almighty is passive and nulls it

How can you see time being erased. You cant see something that is nothing.

Yhwach sees futures as grains of sand. Chrono breaker destroys those grains. Simple as that.

And Time stop is preventing the future from ever reaching.

Kinda like what happened to Diavolo (epitaph) against GER.

At most Yhwach would see Wisemon saying "Chrono Breaker" and then a screen saying "Data not found". Unless, of course, there is any statement implying that Yhwach can see through erased time.

 

[Paul_Frank]

He would see Wisemon using chronobreaker and null it. He would see wisemon activating it in the future and just break it or null the activation. He could also just pick a future where chronobreaker is never used.

Also can wisemon see Yhwach

 

[PaChi2]

He would see Wisemon using chronobreaker and null it. He would see wisemon activating it in the future and just break it or null the activation. He could also just pick a future where chronobreaker is never used.

Also can wisemon see Yhwach

Wisemon can see Yhwach.

Wisemom is nearly omniscient.

Also, Yhwach is not in presence of Wisemon's true form. So good luck nulling something that is not within his sight.

 

[Paul_Frank]

He broke every single bankai and not every soul reaper was in his sight so it's not unreasonable considering wisemon doesn't have any acasuality

 

[The_Causality]

Also, Yhwach is not in presence of Wisemon's true form. So good luck nulling something that is not within his sight.

Are you sure?

 

[TriforcePower1]

PaChi, whatever happens, remember:

It was your fault

Ovo ovO

 

[PaChi2]

He broke every single bankai and not every soul reaper was in his sight so it's not unreasonable considering wisemon doesn't have any acasuality

He said that since bankais would be broken in the future, they were useless against him now.

To null Chrono Breaker wisemon would have to be nulled somewhere in the future. The real Wisemon.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol3oYHYnI5k

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Oh lord....

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Wisemon is like the one really haxed mon who lacks a resistance to Power Null. Dunno how Almighty acts with Avatars however. I mean, at most it will just be an inconclusive seeing as he'd likely never get to the True Wisemon whose in a completely different space time and is always travelling throughout it...

 

[Paul_Frank]

Where is the true wismon

Wouldn't Almighty let him see that it's only an avatar and show him where the true one is?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

The True Wisemon is in a completely separate dimension/space time. Would it, it's not like the Real Wisemon is going to come out at any point in time. Although, the Space Time Stones may be a pain in Yhwach's side.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Well Yhwach does have dimensional travel but I don't know if it would be enough

If Yhwach's dimensional travel doesn't let him reach Wisemon the best he could do is Absorb the avatars or make some clones and have them use the yourself to turn into Wisemon and just get an Incon

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Not taking a side in this, but isnt the Almighty able to see in other space-times? Or is its vision restricted to the future of the world only Yhwach himself is physically present in?

 

[Paul_Frank]

I'm not sure

He had the range to affect Hueco Mundo Earth and the Soul Society all at once but idk if it's ever stated that he can see them all but i'm pretty sure considering he had the range to affect the three his almighty should have the same range

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Rregardless, Wisemon lacks a win/con seeing as Almighty is basically passive. The most he can do is hope Yhwach can't reach his true form and get an incon. Of course Wisemon would be the one haxy Digimon who doesn't resist Power Null.

Also, assuming Wisemon goes for Chrono Breaker first thing is not the best thing seeing as that is an inherited skill. He'd go for Pandora Dialogue. And I dunno if Almighty can be replayed by Pandora Dialogue at all. Should've been Cerberumo X

 

[Sekkonds.]

visianary GG

 

[PaChi2]

Rregardless, Wisemon lacks a win/con seeing as Almighty is basically passive. The most he can do is hope Yhwach can't reach his true form and get an incon. Of course Wisemon would be the one haxy Digimon who doesn't resist Power Null.

Also, assuming Wisemon goes for Chrono Breaker first thing is not the best thing seeing as that is an inherited skill. He'd go for Pandora Dialogue. And I dunno if Almighty can be replayed by Pandora Dialogue at all. Should've been Cerberumo X

Aint Eternal Nirvana a wincon?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Almighty is passive correct? So Eternal Nirvana is worthless as the moment Wisemon starts to move, Yhwach will see it and null it in an instant. Not to mention we don't know how it's activated as all sources just say that the opponent is sealed away.

 

[Theglassman12]

Almighty is something he has to activate. But his later tiers essentially has him using it all the time

 

[PaChi2]

You know, at first I wanted to use my boy Arkadimon. Buuuuut muh Nonexistent Physiology and such made me doubt.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

What about Pandora Dialogue?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

What about Pandora Dialogue?

It would be nulled. True Wisemon may be able to use it, however the issue is assuming Almighty is something that can replayed as Wisemon has to actively record it...meaning he has to see it first...

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Also, Arkadimon Rookie is missing a ton of Piedmon's stuff.

 

[PaChi2]

Would you think that Arkadimon vs Mustache is a better match?

 

[GilgaArcuied]

travelling to different space/times is nothing new for Bleach chars and Yhwach will instantly know how to do so via fighting wisemon.

also timestop occurs in the future so that future where he uses it either gets lolnulled, or lolichooseanotherfuturewhereyoudon'tuseithaha.

 

[Paul_Frank]

A better match would be to not use yhwach because once the other bleach people come in the thread will devolve into chaos

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Not really considering Nonexistent Physiology is still weird. Like...we said being nonexistent is simply being non-corporeal and so if you can hit souls, you can hit beings of nothingness. If it doesn't matter, MetalPhantomon or Cerberumon X are better. Otherwise, we are stuck with "Almighty Null GG".

 

[Sekkonds.]

either yhwach stomps or gets stomped..no good matches

 

[PaChi2]

1)travelling to different space/times is nothing new for Bleach chars and Yhwach will instantly know how to do so via fighting wisemon.

also timestop occurs in the future so that future where he uses it either gets lolnulled, or lolichooseanotherfuturewhereyoudon'tuseithaha.

1) Yhwach would need to locate him.

2) NLF at its finest.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

And if people want to Spite. Do an Alphamon vs Yhwach Redux. ovo