William Afton page revamp

[ShionAH]

Glitchtrap is not Afton, Glitchtrap is a digital recreation of his personality. They are separate characters.

Cap we discussed this already so ur late

 

[ShionAH]

this

the part of william’s summary involving glitchtrap should also be removed as 1) it ruins the story lol and 2) william’s torture never stopped, a separate copy of his consciousness just showed up while william remains in ucn

Very much wrong. Afton basically split himself in two: One part in hell and one part as glitchtrap. Glitchtrap IS afton

 

[Comiphorous]

Cap we discussed this already so ur late

regardless how we feel on whether glitchtrap is a digital copy or a direct new form for William, it’d still be in one page due to AI clones of other characters appear on the same page as who they came from.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

regardless how we feel on whether glitchtrap is a digital copy or a direct new form for William, it’d still be in one page due to AI clones of other characters appear on the same page as who they came from.

Examples?

 

[Comiphorous]

Examples?

Junko has a key for their real self and AI copy, it should be treated the same here.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Junko has a key for their real self an AI copy, it should be treated the same here.

Ah.
Uhh... whataboutism? I dunno. Alter Ego Junko is an A.I. replica of Junko, meaning her character and her presence are identical.

In the Five Nights at Freddy's Official Character Encyclopedia, William Afton and Glitchtrap, a virus, are listed as separate characters, Tape Girl explains that, "It was just junk- circuit boards and things like that. Looked pretty old. Somehow, though, there was usable code on some of it. It seemed to take hold by itself. Things started changing. But then, he started appearing," and e-mails found in AR: Special Delivery detail the story of how the Help Wanted team of developers received circuit boards to scan from Fazbear Entertainment, resulting in the virus' appearance. Its behavior and its mannerisms are strange and unlike Afton's, and its existence appears only tangentially related to Afton's.

 

[Dragonite007]

Ah.
Uhh... whataboutism? I dunno. Alter Ego Junko is an A.I. replica of Junko, meaning her character and her presence are identical.

In the Five Nights at Freddy's Official Character Encyclopedia, William Afton and Glitchtrap, a virus, are listed as separate characters, Tape Girl explains that, "It was just junk- circuit boards and things like that. Looked pretty old. Somehow, though, there was usable code on some of it. It seemed to take hold by itself. Things started changing. But then, he started appearing," and e-mails found in AR: Special Delivery detail the story of how the Help Wanted team of developers received circuit boards to scan from Fazbear Entertainment, resulting in the virus' appearance. Its behavior and its mannerisms are strange and unlike Afton's, and its existence appears only tangentially related to Afton's.

“He appears to be another incarnation of Springtrap, animated by... whatever was in Springtrap, which seemingly lived on in the form of Glitchtrap. The Spring Bonnie suit has become, by this time, more tattered and degraded-and, as the name suggests, burned. He does still have one mostly intact foot though, so that's something.”
— Five Nights at Freddy's Character Encyclopedia, page 208

 

[Comiphorous]

In the Five Nights at Freddy's Official Character Encyclopedia, William Afton and Glitchtrap, a virus, are listed as separate characters, Tape Girl explains that, "It was just junk- circuit boards and things like that. Looked pretty old. Somehow, though, there was usable code on some of it. It seemed to take hold by itself. Things started changing. But then, he started appearing," and e-mails found in AR: Special Delivery detail the story of how the Help Wanted team of developers received circuit boards to scan from Fazbear Entertainment, resulting in the virus' appearance. Its behavior and its mannerisms are strange and unlike Afton's, and its existence appears only tangentially related to Afton's.

That book is the worst source of information you could possibly get stuff from, and it isn't much better that same book contradicts itself by referring springtrap as living on as glitchtrap.

people should really just forget that book exists. it ain't reliable and contradicts itself, wonderfully shown here.

 

[ShionAH]

Its behavior and its mannerisms are strange and unlike Afton's, and its existence appears only tangentially related to Afton's.

That doenst make sense at all for the lore. Glitchtrap literally uses aftons lore- Its a yellow bunny that tries to lure kids.

 

[Dragonite007]

That book is the worst source of information you could possibly get stuff from, and it isn't much better that same book contradicts itself by referring springtrap as living on as glitchtrap.

people should really just forget that book exists. it ain't reliable and contradicts itself, wonderfully shown here.

What are the arguments that separate Afton from Glitchtrap?

 

[BigSmoke4269]

Very much wrong. Afton basically split himself in two: One part in hell and one part as glitchtrap. Glitchtrap IS afton

i looooove speculation

 

[ShionAH]

i looooove speculation

i loooove it when 2 exact characters get 2 pages

 

[BigSmoke4269]

we don’t know if they’re the same character

glitchtrap is still quite vague so we should avoid jumping to conclusions

 

[Nullflowerblush]

That book is the worst source of information you could possibly get stuff from

We can argue over YouTuber opinions and Twitter discussions for as long as we possibly want, but the information is official and...

and it isn't much better that same book contradicts itself by referring springtrap as living on as glitchtrap.

...to say that Springtrap "seemingly" lives on through Glitchtrap is not a contradiction, as the virus emerged from (likely) Springtrap's circuits. Glitchtrap does not need to be Afton to a tee—the Afton that was doomed to eternal damnation by a single child—to be "whatever was in Springtrap". Hell, to claim that "Afton, through a mysterious ability that has never been hinted at before or after, managed to break a part of his soul out of Hell and then attached that fragment of his soul to old circuit boards" is baseless conjecture. Somehow, Afton returned.

 

[Comiphorous]

we don’t know if they’re the same character

glitchtrap is still quite vague so we should avoid jumping to conclusions

“He appears to be another incarnation of Springtrap, animated by... whatever was in Springtrap, which seemingly lived on in the form of Glitchtrap. The Spring Bonnie suit has become, by this time, more tattered and degraded-and, as the name suggests, burned. He does still have one mostly intact foot though, so that's something.”
— Five Nights at Freddy's Character Encyclopedia, page 208

 

[BigSmoke4269]

burntrap is 9-B btw, idk if that would scale back to springtrap

 

[BigSmoke4269]

yeah no thats a pretty vague statement

 

[ShionAH]

yeah no thats a pretty vague statement

yeah no it isnt, you are nitpicking at this point

 

[ShionAH]

Afton, through a mysterious ability that has never been hinted at before or after, managed to break a part of his soul out of Hell and then attached that fragment of his soul to old circuit boards" is baseless conjecture

"Afton was still burning in hell when a random ass AI somehow copied his personality to perfection (the AI was literally saying Aftons catchphrase) and when glitchtrap escaped out of the game suddenly in the next game springtrap returns...no that doesn't mean Afton has any connections with glitchtrap!"

Come on...

 

[Comiphorous]

burntrap is 9-B btw, idk if that would scale back to springtrap

would he scale physically? i didn't think he did.

 

[BigSmoke4269]

"Afton was still burning in hell when a random ass AI somehow copied his personality to perfection (the AI was literally saying Aftons catchphrase) and when glitchtrap escaped out of the game suddenly in the next game springtrap returns...no that doesn't mean Afton has any connections with glitchtrap!"

Come on...

william having a backup of his consciousness prior to his death makes perfect sense for him honestly

the idea that he somehow broke out of hell and turned himself into an ai is way more stupid

would he scale physically? i didn't think he did.

isn’t it the same animatronic?

 

[Comiphorous]

isn’t it the same animatronic?

No i meant burntrap, i get him being 9-B in durability, but i didn't think he scaled physically in AP to Glamrocks.

 

[ShionAH]

william having a backup of his consciousness prior to his death makes perfect sense for him honestly

So you agree glitctrap is williams concious? How did william transfer it in a game that came out after his torments start?

the idea that he somehow broke out of hell and turned himself into an ai is way more stupid

Yeah it isnt. He literally breaks out from his "hell" in fnaf 3 with his will.

 

[BigSmoke4269]

idk i haven’t played security breach lol what does burntrap do

 

[Comiphorous]

idk i haven’t played security breach lol what does burntrap do

He walks around. bout it.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

"Afton was still burning in hell when a random ass AI somehow copied his personality to perfection (the AI was literally saying Aftons catchphrase) and when glitchtrap escaped out of the game suddenly in the next game springtrap returns...no that doesn't mean Afton has any connections with glitchtrap!"

Remnant attaching itself to and warping machinery is a concept as old as (albeit, implicitly retroactively) the original game, and to assume that his Remnant managed to cling onto the circuit board for the Springtrap suit after the thirty or so years he spent springlocked requires far less assumptions than "Afton split his soul from Hell and only sent that piece back to Earth and into the Springtrap circuit board to be scanned and replicated as a virus, because he knew this would happen. Somehow..."

 

[BigSmoke4269]

So you agree glitctrap is williams concious? (That is a good way to look at it I guess but that literally means we have to merge the profiles)

not really, if glitchtrap is a separate copy of william he should probably have a separate profile

Yeah it isnt. He literally breaks out from his "hell" in fnaf 3 with his will.

no he doesnt

 

[Comiphorous]

If glitchtrap stays a seperate page, should more abilities be added to Burntrap due to the glitchtrap virus, or is hacking about all he'll get from that?

 

[ShionAH]

Remnant attaching itself to and warping machinery is a concept as old as (albeit, implicitly retroactively) the original game, and to assume that his Remnant managed to cling onto the circuit board for the Springtrap suit after the thirty or so years he spent springlocked requires far less assumptions than "Afton split his soul from Hell and only sent that piece back to Earth and into the Springtrap circuit board to be scanned and replicated as a virus, because he knew this would happen. Somehow..."

Afton somehow uses something to make a part of his concious get sent to coding as a virus to save himself and come back makes way more sense for the lore and willim as a whole then "Random AI copies springtrap but not fully then starts to escape and right when it does suddenly springtrap out of nowhere comes back" Yeah no connection at all. Sure.


“He appears to be another incarnation of Springtrap, animated by... whatever was in Springtrap, which seemingly lived on in the form of Glitchtrap. The Spring Bonnie suit has become, by this time, more tattered and degraded-and, as the name suggests, burned. He does still have one mostly intact foot though, so that's something.”

not really, if glitchtrap is a separate copy of william he should probably have a separate profile

I guess Naruto should have thousands of profiles then lol plus "Junko has a key for their real self and AI copy, it should be treated the same here"

no he doesnt

He kinda escapes a giant burning building lol

 

[Comiphorous]

Now thinking about it, wouldn't william being alive as burntrap walking around prove william didn't stay in hell? how would william be in his physical body if he were in hell?

 

[ShionAH]

Now thinking about it, wouldn't william being alive as burntrap walking around prove william didn't stay in hell? how would william be in his physical body if he were in hell?

You are right tbh heres my opinion

"Williams soul goes to hell and his body stays at Fnaf 6. He somehow does the whole Immortality 6 thing and manipulates vanny into making him a revive tube. He gets revived..."

 

[Perequeliri993]

You are right tbh heres my opinion

"Williams soul goes to hell and his body stays at Fnaf 6. He somehow does the whole Immortality 6 thing and manipulates vanny into making him a revive tube. He gets revived..."

And he comes back

 

[ShionAH]

recreated William's page. general changes;

-removes his UCN keys (they aren't needed. they're slightly different than his living variant and aren't notably different enough)
-Downgraded his first key, being 9-C with weaponry, as the fnaf 3 minigames aren't visually reliable.
-Removed AR key, as it's stated multiple times to be the same springtrap from fnaf 3
-downgraded Springtrap's speed based on a calc
-merges glitchtrap's page with this one
-Created a Security Breach key which consists of Burntrap and Glitchtrap

forgot the intelligence addition

 

[Comiphorous]

forgot the intelligence addition

that's more like a minor fix. he should have been listed as extraordinary genius from the beginning. his feats are far higher than gifted.

 

[ShionAH]

that's more like a minor fix. he should have been listed as extraordinary genius from the beginning. his feats are far higher than gifted.

Fair. I called a fnaf staff here so we just gotta wait Ig

 

[ShionAH]

that's more like a minor fix. he should have been listed as extraordinary genius from the beginning. his feats are far higher than gifted.

should we add this for his intelligence too?
"Was able to fix his suit one handed after burning in fazbear frights"

 

[BigSmoke4269]

Now thinking about it, wouldn't william being alive as burntrap walking around prove william didn't stay in hell? how would william be in his physical body if he were in hell?

what? william’s physical body didn’t go to hell, his soul did. glitchtrap then possessed william’s body and became burntrap.

 

[ShionAH]

Theres still no reason why they shouldnt be merged. Junko is a big example why its okay to merge them

 

[BigSmoke4269]

Afton somehow uses something to make a part of his concious get sent to coding as a virus to save himself and come back makes way more sense for the lore

it makes zero sense lol there is absolutely nothing pointing towards this

"Random AI copies springtrap but not fully then starts to escape and right when it does suddenly springtrap out of nowhere comes back" Yeah no connection at all. Sure.

good thing that’s not what i said. william probably made a digital copy of his consciousness prior to his death. it’s fairly realistic by the standards of fnaf lore and is completely in-character for william. not nearly as stupid as william somehow turning himself into a virus during ucn and sending it out of hell through completely unknown means.

“He appears to be another incarnation of Springtrap, animated by... whatever was in Springtrap, which seemingly lived on in the form of Glitchtrap.

this is not a concrete statement. “lived on in the form of glitchtrap” could just mean that glitchtrap carried on his legacy and goals.

I guess Naruto should have thousands of profiles then lol

straw man

plus "Junko has a key for their real self and AI copy, it should be treated the same here"

idk anything about junko (im not cringe) so i have nothing to say about this

He kinda escapes a giant burning building lol

bro

that is not the same thing as escaping literal hell

 

[BigSmoke4269]

this might sound crazy but walking out of a building is not the same as exiting a pocket dimension