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Why The "Don't Downgrade Base Goku" Rule Is Wrong

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Can this be closed? The 48-hour rule woudn't apply here because this is literally a discussion rule.
Correcting the others: The 48 hour rule is for applying a topic. It can be closed earlier depending on the parties involved. Me personally, would prefer all the relevant staff involved in the implementation of the rule to weigh in before closing. (So just wait for Asura and/or DDM, at least)
 
Makes sense, you can't be a beautiful kid If you old.
I tried to be, but i was not successful.
I didn't succeed when I was a kid either. Starting to think age wasn't actually the issue.

Honestly though a thread like this should be in a staff discussion since it concerns a discussion rule.
This thread shouldn't be in any discussion. Made by a poster stonewalling like it's TR here and repeating non-canon stuff and bad arguments. It should have been closed on sight like the one yesterday.
 
They can’t sense ki when in SSJG or SSJB, but can sense the ki again when Goku is in SSJ or Base. So... its clearly not god ki in base or SSJ.

That’s why SSJB was confused for SSJG initially in the RoF Anime as well. So if SSJB is just turning SSJ opposed to SSGSS, then why would turning SSJ suddenly make his Ki signature disappear?

Disagree for these reasons and Clover’s.
 
No. Stuff like this requires at least 3 admin and 3 thread mod disagreements, bare minimum, and usually the involvement of a bureaucrat or two, since this concerns a discussion rule.
That seems weird. Given the nature of the thread it should require less stuff disagreements rather than more.
 
No it's just that it seems counter productive. I can understand needing more stuff than normal to accept it as it would go against the established discussion rule but if the votes agree with the discussion rule it should require less votes. I would guess the very reason of a discussion rule is to make an argument easier to shot down. Just I feel that it should change but whatever.
 
No it's just that it seems counter productive. I can understand needing more stuff than normal to accept it as it would go against the established discussion rule but if the votes agree with the discussion rule it should require less votes. I would guess the very reason of a discussion rule is to make an argument easier to shot down. Just I feel that it should change but whatever.
He‘s joking it’s just gonna be a slaughter fest of disagreements
 
The DBS anime has no filler. Filler is stuff that isn't present in the source material, but the DBS anime is the source material. You're just ignoring evidence you don't like

Except for... the refutations you ignored
It does, because that part isn't written by Akira and contradicts the retcon, since we have Goku fighting Trunks. Who at best fought Dabura, Goku vs the Trio Danger showing his power is nowhere near SSG.
 
It does, because that part isn't written by Akira and contradicts the retcon
There is no retcon. You made that up.

Objectively speaking, filler is content that is not present in the source material. The DBS anime is the source material, therefore there is no filler.
since we have Goku fighting Trunks. Who at best fought Dabura
Trunks became much stronger after defeating Dabura, so this is not an anti-feat. He was able to briefly contend with Goku Black just before coming to the past.
Goku vs the Trio Danger showing his power is nowhere near SSG.
It literally doesn't, you're asserting things to be true with zero substantiation
 
In order for my OP to be refuted:

Show evidence that regular SSJ boost his base SSG power by x50

Show that RoF Goku has acces to SSG and that SSB multiplies his supposed SSG transformation by x50 than his base SSG power.
 
There is no retcon. You made that up.

Objectively speaking, filler is content that is not present in the source material. The DBS anime is the source material, therefore there is no filler.

Trunks became much stronger after defeating Dabura, so this is not an anti-feat. He was able to briefly contend with Goku Black just before coming to the past.

It literally doesn't, you're asserting things to be true with zero substantiation
Trunks got stronger. There is no evidence he got strong enough to one-shot BoG SSG. Also Trio struggled against Buu and in ToP BASE Goku only fought Buu Saga tier characters. Is that a coincidence?
 
In order for my OP to be refuted:

Show evidence that regular SSJ boost his base SSG power by x50

Show that RoF Goku has acces to SSG and that SSB multiplies his supposed SSG transformation by x50 than his base SSG power.
Are you trolling? There has yet to be a single agreement with you. You are debating against a discussion rule. And you think that people should prove things to you? That's... disillusion.
 
You're creating arbitrary requirements for the sake of it. No, it doesn't specifically need to be that. Your OP has been adequately refuted, as shown by the universal disagreement with it
They are literally stated in RoF Arc and by Akira. He made those rules.
 
Trunks got stronger. There is no evidence he got strong enough to one-shot BoG SSG.
Briefly contending with Goku Black is enough proof of that. Your personal disbelief of this is not an argument
Also Trio struggled against Buu and in ToP BASE Goku only fought Buu Saga tier characters. Is that a coincidence?
The Trio de Dangers contended with Base Goku and Base Vegeta, who are > BoG SSG. Buu would be that level as well
 
They are literally stated in RoF Arc and by Akira. He made those rules.
due to my lack of relevant knowledge on the topic, i would just like to advise you that you shoud probably bring scans and defend your arguments with a sufficiently consistent logical basis before posting again
 
Are you trolling? There has yet to be a single agreement with you. You are debating against a discussion rule. And you think that people should prove things to you? That's... disillusion.
Why doesn't Goku go SSG than absorbs it power again in base, again and again an infinite loop
 
It does, because that part isn't written by Akira and contradicts the retcon, since we have Goku fighting Trunks. Who at best fought Dabura, Goku vs the Trio Danger showing his power is nowhere near SSG.
DB Canon stopped being written front to back by solely Toriyama years ago, it's a joint effort now. You gonna argue the Broly Movie has filler too now because he said something along the lines of "I left it to Toei Animation who I trust and always does a fantastic job" too?
 
Not quite. If it's so universally disagreed on, including by numerous staff members, it's pretty safe to call the thread rejected. We're really just waiting on a couple of other staff
the reason it's disagreed on is what matters when judging if something is right or not

the reason here is that the arguments presented refuted the OP, so the universal disagreement is indeed a good sign that this is wrong

then again, that's mostly the only reason CRTs get declined in this wiki, so i can see your point
 
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