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Correct. There was a proposal to make it so, but it was rejected.
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Why The "Don't Downgrade Base Goku" Rule Is Wrong
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Fezzih_007
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You are a kid? Wow.
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Correcting the others: The 48 hour rule is for applying a topic. It can be closed earlier depending on the parties involved. Me personally, would prefer all the relevant staff involved in the implementation of the rule to weigh in before closing. (So just wait for Asura and/or DDM, at least)
Serlock_Holmes
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No I'm mid twenties. That was a joke. Except if we are referring to mental age in which case I'm a toddler.
Nah she just has some difficulty walking. Else she is doing better than me.
Fezzih_007
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Makes sense, you can't be a beautiful kid If you old.
I tried to be, but i was not sucefull.
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you're older than me then, uncle toddler serlock_holmes
but this is just sad
anyways, liking your post because i appearently forgot to do so
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Honestly though a thread like this should be in a staff discussion since it concerns a discussion rule.
Serlock_Holmes
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I didn't succeed when I was a kid either. Starting to think age wasn't actually the issue.
This thread shouldn't be in any discussion. Made by a poster stonewalling like it's TR here and repeating non-canon stuff and bad arguments. It should have been closed on sight like the one yesterday.
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Alright, peeps. Stop derailing now.
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They can’t sense ki when in SSJG or SSJB, but can sense the ki again when Goku is in SSJ or Base. So... its clearly not god ki in base or SSJ.
That’s why SSJB was confused for SSJG initially in the RoF Anime as well. So if SSJB is just turning SSJ opposed to SSGSS, then why would turning SSJ suddenly make his Ki signature disappear?
Disagree for these reasons and Clover’s.
That’s why SSJB was confused for SSJG initially in the RoF Anime as well. So if SSJB is just turning SSJ opposed to SSGSS, then why would turning SSJ suddenly make his Ki signature disappear?
Disagree for these reasons and Clover’s.
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man, we had 2 admin and 2 Mod disagreements, wouldn't this be more than enough for this to be closed?
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Others have already explained my issuse with the OP so and like them, I disagree with the OP.
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No. Stuff like this requires at least 3 admin and 3 thread mod disagreements, bare minimum, and usually the involvement of a bureaucrat or two, since this concerns a discussion rule.
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Vote count so far:
Agree with OP:
Disagree with OP: 5 - @Lonkitt, @LephyrTheRevanchist, @LordTracer, @Maverick_Zero_X, @LordGriffin1000,
Neutral on OP:
Agree with OP:
Disagree with OP: 5 - @Lonkitt, @LephyrTheRevanchist, @LordTracer, @Maverick_Zero_X, @LordGriffin1000,
Neutral on OP:
Serlock_Holmes
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That seems weird. Given the nature of the thread it should require less stuff disagreements rather than more.
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Threads of volatile nature in general require more staff evaluations than most, even more so for stuff that is being applied.
Serlock_Holmes
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No it's just that it seems counter productive. I can understand needing more stuff than normal to accept it as it would go against the established discussion rule but if the votes agree with the discussion rule it should require less votes. I would guess the very reason of a discussion rule is to make an argument easier to shot down. Just I feel that it should change but whatever.
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It does, because that part isn't written by Akira and contradicts the retcon, since we have Goku fighting Trunks. Who at best fought Dabura, Goku vs the Trio Danger showing his power is nowhere near SSG.
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There is no retcon. You made that up.
Objectively speaking, filler is content that is not present in the source material. The DBS anime is the source material, therefore there is no filler.
Trunks became much stronger after defeating Dabura, so this is not an anti-feat. He was able to briefly contend with Goku Black just before coming to the past.
It literally doesn't, you're asserting things to be true with zero substantiation
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You're creating arbitrary requirements for the sake of it. No, it doesn't specifically need to be that. Your OP has been adequately refuted, as shown by the universal disagreement with it
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Trunks got stronger. There is no evidence he got strong enough to one-shot BoG SSG. Also Trio struggled against Buu and in ToP BASE Goku only fought Buu Saga tier characters. Is that a coincidence?
Serlock_Holmes
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Are you trolling? There has yet to be a single agreement with you. You are debating against a discussion rule. And you think that people should prove things to you? That's... disillusion.
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They are literally stated in RoF Arc and by Akira. He made those rules.
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not that i'm defending the op, but that would be an appeal to popularity
it's largely refuted because of the arguments presented
KingNanaya
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I agree purely based on the fact that I'm a contrarian.
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Briefly contending with Goku Black is enough proof of that. Your personal disbelief of this is not an argument
The Trio de Dangers contended with Base Goku and Base Vegeta, who are > BoG SSG. Buu would be that level as well
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Not quite. If it's so universally disagreed on, including by numerous staff members, it's pretty safe to call the thread rejected. We're really just waiting on a couple of other staff
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due to my lack of relevant knowledge on the topic, i would just like to advise you that you shoud probably bring scans and defend your arguments with a sufficiently consistent logical basis before posting again
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No. What you're demanding is based on an unreasonable extrapolation of what was said, as I made clear in my first response to your OP
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Why doesn't Goku go SSG than absorbs it power again in base, again and again an infinite loop
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DB Canon stopped being written front to back by solely Toriyama years ago, it's a joint effort now. You gonna argue the Broly Movie has filler too now because he said something along the lines of "I left it to Toei Animation who I trust and always does a fantastic job" too?
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the reason it's disagreed on is what matters when judging if something is right or not
the reason here is that the arguments presented refuted the OP, so the universal disagreement is indeed a good sign that this is wrong
then again, that's mostly the only reason CRTs get declined in this wiki, so i can see your point
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Because it only works when the form is first achieved. It's that simple. Because it was Goku making that borrowed power his own
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Goku debubks you as his powers is his BASE. He isn't refering to SSG as a tranformation. Otherwise he would go SSG and than Blue.
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He taps into his god ki and turns Super Saiyan on top of that, instead of just turning Super Saiyan
My point still stands
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