Because he became stronger than his SSJG at the state that’s like saying Goku when he goes SSJ is always gonna be as strong as Namek Saga SSJ goku but it’s a multiplier not a set level of power
Crazy how you ignored my argument I posted earlier in this crt which explains why there’s no retcon because it’s never god ki in base
Just absorbing the power
Uh yes? Goku didn't just absorb the SSG "state"/"form", he absorbed the strength of the form during that time and made it's power his current base strength. He still can transform into SSG and stack the multiplier into his now base form with SSG level power
Because?
There is no evidence that Goku can go SSG in RoF. The opposite is shown. RoF base Goku is the SSG in BoG in power and uses that power to go SSJ on top of it which is regular SSJ from now on called Blue.
We know that Frieza gets ridiculously stronger through training, as training for 4 months was enough for him to gain a Super Saiyan Blue level transformation when he was previously just Namek SSJ Goku level.
By your logic. Goku could have gone SSG, absorb SSG power in base and do it as many times as he wants. He can't because he already has the set of power in base and there is no SSG transformation.
False, Frieza is show again and again to be relative to Goku. Also by your logic base Frieza should have surpassed MUI Goku because if the supposed "10,000" times boost he gets by training. Look at SSB vs Goldeb Frieza fight during Goku's training with form does he need against base Frieza its SSG since its a x50 downgrade from Blue. While base Goku was a x50 downgrade from Blue. It's such an ovbious retcon. Rather than your head-canon that he got 10,000 stronger everytime he wants.
And I was genuinely answering.
No, I really don’t, because your question really doesn’t make sense if you’re not assuming that he actually absorbed the form. There’s no reason for him to lose the yellow-haired SSJ forms just because he’s god level.
I don’t know why you’re assuming I’m not calm? I genuinely don’t know what makes you think that Goku having this many boosts would put him on Beerus’ level.
What I meant is what the nature of the boosts was. Please don't group me into the same category as Sir Spamsalot.
Because you're being passive aggressive for no reason and accusing me of making dishonest assumptions. I understand getting the same revision thread dropped on you repeatedly is frustrating, but remember I didn't do it, nor would I.
It's a fifty/fifty. Many threads opposing existing rules have been made, often by staff. The difference is that this thread has been done repeatedly and the OP seems to be overloaded with extra information that borders on spam. I'm never for silencing discussion, but this is a touchy matter.
Not my point. Base Goku has regular Ki with power beyond SSG and increases it x50 when going SSB and in ToP he needs SSG for base Frieza and SSB from Golden. You can see the clear retcon.
I... didn‘t? I haven’t once compared you to the OP of this thread, literally all I did was answer the questions you asked.
I’m literally not… you asked “shouldn’t he have reached Beerus’ level by now”, and I genuinely don’t know why you think that’s the case.
So Frieza can reach god power but not Goku?
Are you sure that's a retcon and not just Frieza having gotten stronger since RoF?
Frieza afrer RoF is never shown to get massivly stronger than Goku and Namek Frieza to SSB blue is likely a one time plot boost like Android 17. No one thinks Android 17 'can do that again and get another league of that boost. He would one-shit Whis by then lol
You are not the person that decides if the rejection is invalid. It's a matter of interpretation and if the prevailing opinion is that you're wrong, you have to accept it.
Okay, fair enough. Typically when someone is accused of making assumptions on this forum it's essentially an act of hostility, accusing them of trolling, lying, etc.
Than I would excelpt evidence for all the things mentioned above. Yet, there is none and mine explaination goes in line with BoG&RoF. While the opposite have to assume alot of things and ignore Akira words.
The Akira words, that don't apply to the anime as said before.
Your interpretation is not the objective truth. You don't decide what interpretation is right and what people should agree with.
Beerus was holding back significantly during Battle of Gods, Goku wasn’t anywhere near his full strength at that point, unless you’re referring to the Battle of Gods movie, which isn’t canon to the anime.
It's not an interpretation. It's factual information that RoF base=SSG power and stacks SSJ which is SSB and Goku said only SSB surpasses SSG power. Otherwise he would have a said "This is SSB a superior transformation of SSG". He doesn't, case closed.
They can’t sense ki when in SSJG or SSJB, but can sense the ki again when Goku is in SSJ or Base. So... its clearly not god ki in base or SSJ.
It is an interpretation. Every piece of information can be interpreted differently unless it is something like "the sky is blue", which this is not. You don't decide whether it's factual or not, and there is nuance you evidently aren't seeing.
Yeah, I guess. I did raise in a prior post how Goku's Super Saiyan form was comparable to his prior SSG form, even after getting roughed up by Beerus. At absolute worst his base form was a 50th of the prior SSG form at that moment, probably a good deal more.
That is because RoF base Goku is regular Ki with SSG power and SSB is God Ki.
And why can't he go SSG? If God form has a super saiyan it should have a base. If Goku doesn't have God ki in base he is just plain old Goku and the SSG remains as something separate.
*Wrong evidence.
Wtf is this scaling, this don't make any sense.
