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Why did I never think of this? - Loptyr vs Loptr
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julius via power nullification
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This is irrelevant.BattleReviews said:
Anyway, Loptr via range and multiple angles to attack from, a few meteors to the face ends it for him
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And this effects the fight.....how?Jinx666 said:
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It doesn't, that's an outlier
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Also, I'm assuming that BR means Nihil's power nullification, which negates abilities that comes from the user (or abilities similar to it), meaning it might cancel out his energy, although he still has his cards and meteors (if only Julius had 6-A meteors ovo)
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its relevant, he got power nullification, no hax that loptr can counter
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and also what JSW says,
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He can counter via using his arms to gain range or just tossing a meteor at him.BattleReviews said:
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but then you need to face this argumentJustSomeWeirdo said:
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Already did
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inconclusive, theres no way that loptr could win too anyways
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Tbh the only thing Julius would nullify is the energy manip (maybe)
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nvm, still voting for julius
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Which is an outlier.
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Because a 6B not getting lolstomped by a 5A with hax would be an outlier.....
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All this stuff is gonna be updated when the revisions go up, long story short he's weaker than Bayonetta, which is why he had to resort to running away because he couldnt beat her
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Being a major part of the story doesn't save something from being an outlier.
Squall defeating Time Compressed Ultimecia is an outlier even though she's the final boss of the game.
Squall defeating Time Compressed Ultimecia is an outlier even though she's the final boss of the game.
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He couldnt beat her but he still harmed and damaged her. Not to mention kept up to her and was able to escape, even with her time hax.
k, no idea who squall is or whatever, but outliers are typically minor powerful feats that make 0 sense and are inconsistant with whatever else they have displayed. Loptr certainly doesnt fall under that category since nothing suggests he isnt 5-A, other than just being a little weaker than Bayo. Its probably cause yall think hes equal to Loki and such, but definitely not, seeing as how he put up a much better fight than him with Bayo.
k, no idea who squall is or whatever, but outliers are typically minor powerful feats that make 0 sense and are inconsistant with whatever else they have displayed. Loptr certainly doesnt fall under that category since nothing suggests he isnt 5-A, other than just being a little weaker than Bayo. Its probably cause yall think hes equal to Loki and such, but definitely not, seeing as how he put up a much better fight than him with Bayo.
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@The Everlasting is right; Master Roshi's moon busting feat could be considered an important part of the story, but that doesn't save it from being considered an outlier.
Anyway, Julius should take this via, power nullification, elemental manipulation, Low Regenerationn, possible one hit KO attack via Wrath, and just all around, better hax.
Anyway, Julius should take this via, power nullification, elemental manipulation, Low Regenerationn, possible one hit KO attack via Wrath, and just all around, better hax.
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Squall Leonhart
I'm saying that something being important to the plot does not mean it can't be an outlier. Outliers can be literally anything that contradicts the scale of power.
As such, Young Loptr fighting Bayonetta is an outlier regardless if it's a big part of the story.
I'm saying that something being important to the plot does not mean it can't be an outlier. Outliers can be literally anything that contradicts the scale of power.
As such, Young Loptr fighting Bayonetta is an outlier regardless if it's a big part of the story.
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Because despite Bayonnetta fighting and defeating people who should be leagues beyond Young Loptrs power, he damaged her, which doesn't make sense.
Alraune, someone who was planning to overthrow Sheba herself, lost to Bayonnetta.
Jubileus, self explanatory, also lost.
Young Loptr, somehow damages....?
It's inconsistent.
Alraune, someone who was planning to overthrow Sheba herself, lost to Bayonnetta.
Jubileus, self explanatory, also lost.
Young Loptr, somehow damages....?
It's inconsistent.
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I'm pretty sure Young Loptyr was intended to be a punching bag type of boss; so scaling him to her makes just as much sense as scaling all the temple bosses in Majora's Mask to Ocarina Link and Ganondorf. His Country level rating actually comes from his own feat.
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Who the hell, or what suggests, they were leagues above Loptr?
You do realise Loptr grows up to be the strongest (2nd strongest, still believe in Omne) character in the verse, and he already can kill trained Umbra Witches similar to Bayonetta (Rosa was the left eye before Bayo yknow). Nothing suggests hes weaker than Alraune (who wasnt "planning" on overthrowing Sheba at all, she simply felt she could after absorbing Jeanne) and weakened planet leveller Jubileus.
You do realise Loptr grows up to be the strongest (2nd strongest, still believe in Omne) character in the verse, and he already can kill trained Umbra Witches similar to Bayonetta (Rosa was the left eye before Bayo yknow). Nothing suggests hes weaker than Alraune (who wasnt "planning" on overthrowing Sheba at all, she simply felt she could after absorbing Jeanne) and weakened planet leveller Jubileus.
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Where is it ever suggested that Rosa had the Left Eye?
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No one suggesting Loptr is weaker than those characters in general, but his younger self is far weaker than his older self.
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Because Aesir is Equal to Sheba and Jubileus, Jubileus lost despite having the right eye, unless you think Young Loptrs>Jubileus which as you can see throws any and all scaling out the window.Jinx666 said:
If Bayonnetta fights and defeats people Equal to Aesir while at least at half of their potential, Young Loptr with no eyes should get absolutely stomped but he doesn't.
"Rosa was the left eye" Where is this from?
And no, Alraune possibly being able to overthrow current Sheba shows she's stronger.
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@Weekly Remember, she was the one who gave Balder the left eye for Cereza, wasnt she?
"Far weaker" but 6-B isnt to the extent, nothign suggests that
No. The Jubileus Bayonetta defeated was a much weaker version. If Loptr is able to fight on par and damage bayonetta after she beat jubileus, then he should definitely be able to beat on that level too.
Again, she fought the weaker, one eyed jubileus which was only planet level, so no he doesnt get absolutely stomped
Nothing AT ALL suggests Alraune could have overthrew sheba. The fact you say "possibly" makes it shaky enough. She only says "I feel like i could be queen of this realm", not directly "Ye i can beat that ho Sheba now lol".
"Far weaker" but 6-B isnt to the extent, nothign suggests that
No. The Jubileus Bayonetta defeated was a much weaker version. If Loptr is able to fight on par and damage bayonetta after she beat jubileus, then he should definitely be able to beat on that level too.
Again, she fought the weaker, one eyed jubileus which was only planet level, so no he doesnt get absolutely stomped
Nothing AT ALL suggests Alraune could have overthrew sheba. The fact you say "possibly" makes it shaky enough. She only says "I feel like i could be queen of this realm", not directly "Ye i can beat that ho Sheba now lol".
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The fact that Loptr's best attack was tossing a 6B meteor at Jubileus shows that to be the case. We already have casual 5A feats in the same game.
Okay, no matter how you phrase it, saying young Loptr>Right Eye Jubileus is just wrong.
What reason would she have to lie? What reason would the writers have to lie about an enemy being capable of doing something?
Make a CRT, because if that isn't an outlier, then he's 5A and this is a stomp.
Okay, no matter how you phrase it, saying young Loptr>Right Eye Jubileus is just wrong.
What reason would she have to lie? What reason would the writers have to lie about an enemy being capable of doing something?
Make a CRT, because if that isn't an outlier, then he's 5A and this is a stomp.
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Young Loptr is getting upgraded to 4-CGargoyle One said:
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When exactly? I'm talking right now.
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Let me just change this to a bloodlusted Duma then ovo
jk I'll close this
jk I'll close this
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