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I have promised @MonkeyOfLife I'd link him a thread showcasing why I think admirals get clapped by Big Mom, so here it is. This is a copy pasted essay I made on the site Worstgen in this thread: https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...onger-than-big-mom.29164/page-11#post-3282799
Without further ado, here is my essay.
"Okay let's get one thing straight: Being stronger than someone does NOT mean you can beat them. Big Mom is far stronger than the admirals and has far better lifting strength, durability, etc. But let's say hypothetically Akainu can melt her with magma,then he can still possibly beat her even if he has far less muscle and durability. But I still don't think he could beat her and neither can any other admiral, here's why.
One: She has advanced haki. This is important as advanced haki users can avoid having to directly touch extremely hot or cold things to damage them, shown by Luffy when he knocked out Kaidou without touching his immensely hot body. So if she takes Akainu seriously, she can easily knock him out without risking being burnt.
Two: She can survive magma. Hear me out, this is a detail many dismiss, but we NEVER saw Mother Carmel's homies again after she died, and nobody ever mentions her homies having lived after her death, thus homies disappear when their owner does. Now, Big Mom and Kaidou fell in magma, and while only Kaidou is shown floating in magma ( which is actually important as well though off topic, as Kaidou seemingly didn't melt in the magma, and it seems his coat was also shown floating in the magma ), Big Mom HAS to still be alive even if unconscious, as Zeus is later shown still alive and well partying with Nami and friends in Wano a few chapters later. This means her and Kaidou can somehow survive being sent flying into magma underground, so I doubt Akainu can burn them significantly.
Three: If she beheads the admiral with her haki infused sword fast enough, they WILL die. This isn't like Kizaru being blown up by a non haki user ( Apoo ). It's like Kuzan almost getting impaled in the stomach by Whitebeard.
Four: Sabo could withstand Fujitora's gravity techniques and even fly through them, now imagine Big Mom, who is much stronger than Sabo, fighting Fujitora. I SERIOUSLY doubt she can't withstand the gravity easily. Plus, Fujitora's ability might be like Law's, where someone using haki, and especially strong haki, can barely be moved by him.
Five: " Big Mom got one shot by Queen, and Queen wasn't even at full power! " First of all, Big Mom could not use haki or her devil fruit and was completely unguarded at that moment, and yet Queen could barely give her enough of a head butt to remove her amnesia. One of the top 4 strongest commanders ( out of the ones with feats ) did nothing more than give Big Mom her memories back from head butting her at full speed while she was unguarded. Now imagine her using haki and her devil fruit to block, there's no way Queen, or even the strongest yonko commanders like King and Marco, could harm her significantly. And yes, while you MAY think admirals are way above commanders for a certain feat, I'll address why that is wrong in my next point:
Six: Aramaki " no diffing " King and Queen would indeed make me think he's comparable to, or equal to, the emperors, but here's the thing:
King had one of his wings cut off and his stomach sliced by Zoro, among many other injuries.
King was in base form, and thus didn't go all out against Aramaki off the bat, especially since he couldn't properly fly.
King also probably didn't have his flame on, and we actually don't have evidence he did, so saying he should have because he would have had to try and guard against an intruder isn't a great argument if you have no proof.
These arguments also mostly apply to Queen as well. Plus Aramaki hit them behind their backs where they couldn't see, and at that moment we did not see any signs of King's flame on his back when he got lifted up by Aramaki. All of these point to him surprising them when they weren't even properly ready to fight.
Seven: Yamato, in base form, slammed Aramaki, and made him sweat and hold his head, implying she actually gave him a headache while he was fully transformed. For reference, Yamato had to go into hybrid form, which is much stronger than base, to slam an emperor and make said emperor bleed with one of her strongest attacks. Now imagine Big Mom, who is stronger than Yamato, fighting Aramaki, not to mention she has quite potent fire and electricity attacks, plus a sword, so she sort of hard counters him.
Eight: She no diffs Kuzan by using Prometheus and Haki. Not even kidding, this sadly is just how it is. "
Addendum to this essay: Obviously Kaidou can also take a fat dump on the admirals as he's said to be equal to her.
And thus, Luffy can, as he mid diffed Kaidou once he awakened ( walked out of the battle with a few bandages and bruises despite being hit by a ton of strong attacks from Kaidou ).
Without further ado, here is my essay.
"Okay let's get one thing straight: Being stronger than someone does NOT mean you can beat them. Big Mom is far stronger than the admirals and has far better lifting strength, durability, etc. But let's say hypothetically Akainu can melt her with magma,then he can still possibly beat her even if he has far less muscle and durability. But I still don't think he could beat her and neither can any other admiral, here's why.
One: She has advanced haki. This is important as advanced haki users can avoid having to directly touch extremely hot or cold things to damage them, shown by Luffy when he knocked out Kaidou without touching his immensely hot body. So if she takes Akainu seriously, she can easily knock him out without risking being burnt.
Two: She can survive magma. Hear me out, this is a detail many dismiss, but we NEVER saw Mother Carmel's homies again after she died, and nobody ever mentions her homies having lived after her death, thus homies disappear when their owner does. Now, Big Mom and Kaidou fell in magma, and while only Kaidou is shown floating in magma ( which is actually important as well though off topic, as Kaidou seemingly didn't melt in the magma, and it seems his coat was also shown floating in the magma ), Big Mom HAS to still be alive even if unconscious, as Zeus is later shown still alive and well partying with Nami and friends in Wano a few chapters later. This means her and Kaidou can somehow survive being sent flying into magma underground, so I doubt Akainu can burn them significantly.
Three: If she beheads the admiral with her haki infused sword fast enough, they WILL die. This isn't like Kizaru being blown up by a non haki user ( Apoo ). It's like Kuzan almost getting impaled in the stomach by Whitebeard.
Four: Sabo could withstand Fujitora's gravity techniques and even fly through them, now imagine Big Mom, who is much stronger than Sabo, fighting Fujitora. I SERIOUSLY doubt she can't withstand the gravity easily. Plus, Fujitora's ability might be like Law's, where someone using haki, and especially strong haki, can barely be moved by him.
Five: " Big Mom got one shot by Queen, and Queen wasn't even at full power! " First of all, Big Mom could not use haki or her devil fruit and was completely unguarded at that moment, and yet Queen could barely give her enough of a head butt to remove her amnesia. One of the top 4 strongest commanders ( out of the ones with feats ) did nothing more than give Big Mom her memories back from head butting her at full speed while she was unguarded. Now imagine her using haki and her devil fruit to block, there's no way Queen, or even the strongest yonko commanders like King and Marco, could harm her significantly. And yes, while you MAY think admirals are way above commanders for a certain feat, I'll address why that is wrong in my next point:
Six: Aramaki " no diffing " King and Queen would indeed make me think he's comparable to, or equal to, the emperors, but here's the thing:
King had one of his wings cut off and his stomach sliced by Zoro, among many other injuries.
King was in base form, and thus didn't go all out against Aramaki off the bat, especially since he couldn't properly fly.
King also probably didn't have his flame on, and we actually don't have evidence he did, so saying he should have because he would have had to try and guard against an intruder isn't a great argument if you have no proof.
These arguments also mostly apply to Queen as well. Plus Aramaki hit them behind their backs where they couldn't see, and at that moment we did not see any signs of King's flame on his back when he got lifted up by Aramaki. All of these point to him surprising them when they weren't even properly ready to fight.
Seven: Yamato, in base form, slammed Aramaki, and made him sweat and hold his head, implying she actually gave him a headache while he was fully transformed. For reference, Yamato had to go into hybrid form, which is much stronger than base, to slam an emperor and make said emperor bleed with one of her strongest attacks. Now imagine Big Mom, who is stronger than Yamato, fighting Aramaki, not to mention she has quite potent fire and electricity attacks, plus a sword, so she sort of hard counters him.
Eight: She no diffs Kuzan by using Prometheus and Haki. Not even kidding, this sadly is just how it is. "
Addendum to this essay: Obviously Kaidou can also take a fat dump on the admirals as he's said to be equal to her.
And thus, Luffy can, as he mid diffed Kaidou once he awakened ( walked out of the battle with a few bandages and bruises despite being hit by a ton of strong attacks from Kaidou ).
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And that's the truth
