Who is the better killer

[SemiRaedi]

Alabasta Zoro (downscales from 446.845 Tons) Vs Godspeed Killua using 8-A (upscales from 145 tons)
Speed equalised starting 100 meters apart

Zoro:1 (Monkey)
Killua: 0

Notes for Zoro and Killua that may be important:

Killua's thunderbolt is MHS+ (440000m/s), compared to his hypersonic+ (can't find a figure so using baseline which is 3430m/s) rating is a roughly 436570m/s difference so if Killua uses it then it will obviously hit Zoro

Zoro outranges Killua with hundreds of meters with air slashes against Killua's tens of meters with his thunderbolt

All of Killua's attacks stun on contact

Killua has speed amps instinctive reaction which enables him to move before his brain can send signals to his muscles the other

Zoro has superior stamina (it's Zoro lol) but pain tolerance seems similar imo:

Killua can bear very intense physical pain without his physical or mental abilities being impaired. He was tortured by Milluki for several weeks straight, found it amusing, and eventually fell asleep. He can withstand one million volts of electricity and only feel mild pain. He was able to formulate a plan while being grievously wounded by the Ortho Siblings including several organs

Has an extremely high pain tolerance, able to withstand extensive beatings, impalements, as well as take on all of the pain and fatigue Luffy endured during the entirety of Thriller Bark despite being severely injured himself... and remain conscious and standing

The reason why I did this is because some people don't fully read through the profiles, this may include me.

Feel free to add any other useful things for the two characters if you think I haven't listed anything else that's useful or correct me if I'm wrong about something as I'm not an expert regarding these series (watched HxH and pre TS OP 2 years ago).

 

[SemiRaedi]

Unsure how often Killua uses thunderbolt since he mainly bullied youpi with physical strikes and I'm not too knowledgeable about how he used it in other fights.

 

[SemiRaedi]

I also feel like I may have forgotten some stuff on Zoro's profile

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Voting Zoro Via Speed Amp Dura Neg (ShiShi SonSon)(It will one shot and Zoro usually starts with it), Much more Skilled and Better Combat Intelligence, Reactive Power Level, Information Analysis and Much better Endurance (Not talking about pain tolerance... Zoro can survive multiple times thats supposed to kill him and is still alive only because of his Supernatural Willpower). (also it seems like Zoro has Stronger Durabillity) (Not sure if possibly can be used in a verses match btw (killua's ap)...)

 

[SemiRaedi]

Voting Zoro Via Speed Amp Dura Neg (ShiShi SonSon)(It will one shot and Zoro usually starts with it), Much more Skilled and Better Combat Intelligence, Reactive Power Level, Information Analysis and Much better Endurance (Not talking about pain tolerance... Zoro can survive multiple times thats supposed to kill him and is still alive only because of his Supernatural Willpower). (also it seems like Zoro has Stronger Durabillity) (Not sure if possibly can be used in a verses match btw (killua's ap)...)

The AP gap is only 3x

Killua also has much faster attacks than Zoro that can stun so you'll have to take that for account. Killua has been an assassin since he was young and like Zoro was rated combat genius so their combat intelligence shouldn't be that far apart.

I'll give Zoro the endurance but when all attacks including one that will blitz him (not kill though since it's 3x weaker than him) stun it doesn't help as much. Killua's instinctive reaction could help against Shi Shi but then again idk how high it will boost up Zoro's speed.

Killua genuinely starts with whatever works so I imagine he'd go with lightning which stuns once he gets only a bit closer (tens of meters) Zoro can combat with air slashes since they outrange but Killua should be able to dodge (can Zoro spam?).


Zoro can easily kill Killua with some fatal slashes (although it won't disturb Killua if he gets hit once or twice, he's also fought with his organs pierced before so he's also experienced fatal damage). But is he able to deal with Killua just abusing his stun with his attacks. Could you also clarify how much Shi Shi son son boosts Zoro's speed because it could help combat Killua's instinctive reaction which makes him move before his brain sends signals telling him to move.

Just to clarify, as the OP I'm allowed to argue as long as I'm not biased (I'm just providing suggesting arguments to see if your original points hold up in your perspective) and I also can't count myself as a voter.

 

[SemiRaedi]

Killu also has power reading so he should be able to roughly estimate the strength of Zoro and deduce he's physically stronger than him. Also despite doing no damage, Killua has bullied low 7-C characters (in the sense of humiliating them by blitzing him, spamming paralysis and dodging all his strikes easily) so I'm sure Killua won't play it cocky with Zoro.

Plus both fighters tend to go for killing strikes with Zoro using literal swords with AP strong enough to do hard damage to Killua however Killua has his claws that heighten his AP (not enough to close the AP gap) and goes for pressure points and neck strikes and such (while I don't doubt Zoro's ability to dodge them, if he gets stunned by thunder bolt and then stabbed in the neck it can do serious damage).

 

[SemiRaedi]

Although I feel like Killua has a chance without needing this but, apparently Killua is multi city block level+ which means he scales to the mean of multi city block level which is 550 (100 tons plus 1 Milton/1000 tons then divide by 2). If so then Killua has a measly AP advantage of 1.2x. Basically they have the same AP.

 

[SemiRaedi]

Doubt it effects much, just means Killua needs less hits to kill Zoro, Zoro's pain tolerance and endurance should help however Killua does tend to go for killing blows such as decapitation and ripping hearts out of people which he could pull of with paralysis. Zoro should outskill somewhat since although Killua has been trained to be a master assassin since a young age, Zoro has beaten sword masters at a young age and was recognised by the greatest swordsman in the world.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Killua also has much faster attacks than Zoro

Much faster? Like what?

Killua has been an assassin since he was young and like Zoro was rated combat genius so their combat intelligence shouldn't be that far apart.

One has genius assassin while Zoro has genius combat… Zoro is much better in a 1v1 fight…

I'll give Zoro the endurance but when all attacks including one that will blitz him (not kill though since it's 3x weaker than him)

What will blitz Zoro?

Killua genuinely starts with whatever works so I imagine he'd go with lightning which stuns once he gets only a bit closer (tens of meters)

You can’t just say killua starts with whatever… I can say that to Zoro aswell… what they usually starts with is what they start attacking with in this match.

Zoro can combat with air slashes since they outrange but Killua should be able to dodge (can Zoro spam?).

Yes he spams… but I’m not sure if this Zoro has that range.

Killu also has power reading so he should be able to roughly estimate the strength of Zoro and deduce he's physically stronger than him.

Zoro has that… but much better… Information Analysis (find weaknesses and much more info on killua…)

Could you also clarify how much Shi Shi son son boosts Zoro's speed because it could help combat Killua's instinctive reaction which makes him move before his brain sends signals telling him to move.

It’s a near blitz move… and it can cut anything and nothing… so basically dura neg… which will one shot killua… killua’s body is faster then his brain and his body can react to stuff but I very much doubt his body could escape Shishi SonSon which is what Zoro starts with… most of the things you have said aren’t stuff killua starts with btw… like killua’s instinctive reaction or speed amps which if he doesn’t start with them, he will get killed easily. (Databook Translations about ShiShi SonSon… Of all of Zoro's techniques, this is the one that specializes in cutting. His cutting ability can slice through iron. Because it is called "iai," his sword is lightning fast. It is impossible to see, let alone see through, the flash of the sword.

This is a special kind of iai where you put all your energy into one sword and release it. By sensing the enemy's "breath

By sensing the enemy's "breath," he can determine the force, speed, and angle at which he should strike (First JC Vol. 21, No. 195). (First JC Vol. 21, No. 195,

cutting through iron with a sword of divine speed! (First JC Vol. 21, Episode 195)

thats one of Zoro’s deadly moves which he uses a lot and starts with…

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

(This thread might be closed since using possibly can’t be used on versus thread I think )

 

[SemiRaedi]

(This thread might be closed since using possibly can’t be used on versus thread I think )

It can

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

It can

Oh ok

 

[SemiRaedi]

Much faster? Like what?

Lightning bolt it is MHS+ compared to Killua's Hypersonic+ which would be a x436570m/s speed gap

One has genius assassin while Zoro has genius combat… Zoro is much better in a 1v1 fight…

Genius in terms of Assassination and Nen. Killua was trained from birth to be one of the world's best assassins and was taught an array of assassination techniques, even those of a supernatural nature. Killua's intellect far exceeds what a normal boy his age should be capable of and is smarter than most adults. He is knowledgeable on a wide variety of topics such as behavioral theories, technology, gaming, and he is a master darts player, suggesting part of his assassination training was general knowledge. He can formulate accurate predictions on his opponent's move and has proved to be able to analyze hostile capabilities and thought patterns efficiently. He can devise effective strategies in a matter of instants. Killua's years of experience can lead him to pick the best option, and he can keep his cool in dangerous situations. He is also highly observant and can pick up on details that would go unnoticed at the subconscious level. Killua is capable of devising sophisticated tactics as well as run accurate simulations and evaluate the success rate of each of them, even in the middle of a fight. His skills in evaluating the assets at his disposal and making the most of them are such that Gon and Biscuit were completely dependent on him to organize their Greed Island cards. Despite Knuckle being his senior and a combat veteran, Killua also presided the strategic meeting before the invasion of the palace. Killua is skilled in a variety of weapons and can improvise with tools of his environment and even turn others' weapons into their own demise, as seen against the various Chimera Ants and their attempt to ambush him, he even has great skill in the use of two yo-yos which earned praise from Shoot. He is also an outstanding talent in the field of Nen being able to distribute it with a margin of error lower than 1%, which requires the most skill and experience. He is normally regarded as more talented than Gon when it comes to Nen control.

Don't downplay Killua's intelligence

What will blitz Zoro?

Lightning bolt, explained it above

You can’t just say killua starts with whatever… I can say that to Zoro aswell… what they usually starts with is what they start attacking with in this match.

I meant that Killua doesn't really have a go to move, I'll go and rewatch all his fights in this key to see if my point still holds up but I'm pretty sure he opened with whatever was most effective everytime he used it.

Yes he spams… but I’m not sure if this Zoro has that range

From Zoro's profile it says he outranges, if he slams then it shouldn't be a problem for Killua to dodge but he can't do anything at hundreds of meters so he'll still somewhat be in danger when he gets into his own effective range.

It’s a near blitz move… and it can cut anything and nothing… so basically dura neg… which will one shot killua… killua’s body is faster then his brain and his body can react to stuff but I very much doubt his body could escape Shishi SonSon which is what Zoro starts with… most of the things you have said aren’t stuff killua starts with btw… like killua’s instinctive reaction or speed amps which if he doesn’t start with them, he will get killed easily. (Databook Translations about ShiShi SonSon… Of all of Zoro's techniques, this is the one that specializes in cutting. His cutting ability can slice through iron. Because it is called "iai," his sword is lightning fast. It is impossible to see, let alone see through, the flash of the sword.

I'll assume that the move can get past instinctive reaction and Killua dies if he gets hit. Killua's instinctive reaction is a speed amp as well and it is literally stated as a function of godspeed meaning it is a passive part of the ability. Also does Zoro need to set up at all to preform it because if so, Killua can stun Zoro to prevent him from using it.

 

[SemiRaedi]

In Killua's fight (going by the anime) he started with physicals against youpi since he could easily blitz him.

In actuality though, Killua abused stunning to prevent youpi from one shotting him and from a far distance Killua would obviously go for thunderbolt.

Just like Zoro would start with air slashes outside of combat range, Killua would start with thunder bolt. Since they both prefer close combat, they'd get in close. Killua can deal with slashes via whirlwind (his passive instinctive reaction + speed amp), the technique that outspeeds his brain signals. But Zoro should be able to block Killua's attacks since Killua can only speed amp his reactions (and running speed with speed of lightning but he doesn't use it in combat).

If Shi Shi Son Son hits the Killua is smoked but I don't see how Zoro will be able to pull it off before getting hit by a lightning bolt that will blitz him and has very similar AP to his own and stuns.

This could turn into a battle of attrition depending on how Killua decided to play out the fight and whether he'd go for a killer blow after stunning or not. If he manages to touch Zoro and stuns him and straight away goes for a neck strike or used his claws to take out Zoro's heart then he should kill but if he decides to keep on beating up Zoro then Zoro should eventually win because...

I forgot to mention that godspeed is temporary lol. If Killua takes too long then he'll go back to base form which keeps the same AP but loses the stunning moved and makes him slower which should make it easy for Zoro to kill Killua.

I'll let the people voting decide what is more likely. And feel free to provide any wincons for Zoro since I'm less knowledgeable on him then Killua.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Don't downplay Killua's intelligence

I didn’t. I watched hxh. Your downplaying Zoro by pasting that.

If Shi Shi Son Son hits the Killua is smoked but I don't see how Zoro will be able to pull it off before getting hit by a lightning bolt that will blitz him and has very similar AP to his own and stuns.

1. ShiShi SonSon has range… so Zoro can use it a long distance away from melee range 2. Does killua start with his lightning bolts? 3. How long does the lightning bolt charge up? 4. I don’t even remember him using it

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

In Killua's fight (going by the anime) he started with physicals against youpi since he could easily blitz him.

Then that’s what he will do in this match. He’ll first use physicals.

In actuality though, Killua abused stunning to prevent youpi from one shotting him and from a far distance Killua would obviously go for thunderbolt.

Did he tho?… you can’t change what killua is going to do in a fight you kinda can if he changed fighting style when facing a swordsman in that form but in this fight you can’t since he never did that… this is like me saying Zoro will fight with what’s most affecting against killua because Zoro always analyze and find weaknesses in opponents easily so Zoro will use the best technique that’s the most effective against killua…

 

[SemiRaedi]

I didn’t. I watched hxh. Your downplaying Zoro by pasting that.

1. ShiShi SonSon has range… so Zoro can use it a long distance away from melee range 2. Does killua start with his lightning bolts? 3. How long does the lightning bolt charge up? 4. I don’t even remember him using it

I'm not downplaying Zoro, I'm simply saying Killua isn't just a trained assaisin like you stated, I think Zoro is more skilled but not by a large margin especially when they're both rated at geniuses at the combat field they specialise in.

1. What is Shi Shi Son Son's range if it is in tens of meters then Killua can use a lightning bolt to counter it

2. Killua will start with lightning bolts if he is tens of meters away just like Zoro would with air slashes

3. He does a throwing motion and throws a lightning bolt

4. Here

Also is this level of instinctive reaction enough to dodge Shi Shi Son Son or not?
Instinctive Reaction with Whirlwind (By programming his aura to send a command directly to his brain, he completely bypasses the nervous system allowing him to react automatically. With this, he was able to catch a Nen dart that only gained corporeality as soon as it hit its mark, catching it as soon as it materialized on his forehead, which astonished the Ortho Siblings),

 

[SemiRaedi]

Then that’s what he will do in this match. He’ll first use physicals.

Did he tho?… you can’t change what killua is going to do in a fight you kinda can if he changed fighting style when facing a swordsman in that form but in this fight you can’t… this is like me saying Zoro will fight with what’s most affecting against killua because Zoro always analyze and find weaknesses in opponents easily so Zoro will use the best technique that’s the most effective against killua…

Killua used physicals because he was literally meters away from his opponent

Killua's attacks stun the opponent on contact and every you can even see it on every hit he did onto Youpi he is rated at low 7-C meaning he'd oneshot Killua easily

Search up Youpi's profile to understand how badly he would have killed Killua if he didn't stun him and Watch this to gain some context on the first two quotes.

Killua prefers to fight in close combat but if he had the option to use a ranged move when he is tens of meters away while getting there then he will, if Zoro is hundreds of meters away from his opponent will he just not use his air slashes because he prefers to use close combat?

characters have different starting moves depending on the range.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

1. What is Shi Shi Son Son's range if it is in tens of meters then Killua can use a lightning bolt to counter it

Link and link (so.. possibly 5-20m I would say

2. Killua will start with lightning bolts if he is tens of meters away just like Zoro would with air slashes

This Zoro does have air slashes… ask king tempest he’ll know… or I can.

3. He does a throwing motion and throws a lightning bolt

That’s similar to Zoro

Also is this level of instinctive reaction enough to dodge Shi Shi Son Son or not?
Instinctive Reaction with Whirlwind (By programming his aura to send a command directly to his brain, he completely bypasses the nervous system allowing him to react automatically. With this, he was able to catch a Nen dart that only gained corporeality as soon as it hit its mark, catching it as soon as it materialized on his forehead, which astonished the Ortho Siblings),

Well I don’t remember that but…

• Whirlwind (疾しっ風ぷう迅じん雷らい, Shippū Jinrai): The first core function of Godspeed has Killua react automatically to external stimuli. Instead of the normal process of the stimulus being perceived by the nerves, which transmit a signal to the brain which in turn sends an instruction to the muscles, Killua programs his aura to send an electric signal to his muscles to instantly react to a threat, bypassing the comparatively slow nervous system. The aura can be preprogrammed to respond to different stimuli: physical contact, sinister intent in the enemy aura, or someone stepping in a predetermined perimeter, and the specific response is preprogrammed as well. This allows Killua to react automatically, which he uses to evade enemy attacks with flawless speed and timing
• 
  so I think it’s like his body can move faster than his mind can I think. This doesn’t make faster tho and Zoro can find weaknesses… also I don’t think killua starts with this if I remember correctly

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Killua's attacks stun the opponent on contact and every you can even see it on every hit he did onto Youpi he is rated at low 7-C meaning he'd oneshot Killua easily

Weaknesses: Killua needs to charge himself by absorbing electricity in some manner, which he has done through a tazer and electrical sockets, to use his Nen abilities, and he can run out of electricity if he overuses his Nen abilities, forcing him to take additional time to charge up, Kanmuru (Godspeed) has a time limit. Due to Illumi's needle, he was initially unwilling to fight those who were equal or greater to him in strength and would retreat unless victory was guaranteed, though after Killua removed the needle, this weakness no longer applies. Zetsu involves keeping one's aura exclusively in the body, it makes a Nen user more vulnerable to physical and Nen attacks, because one doesn't have any aura on the outside of one's body to protect oneself.

Search up Youpi's profile to understand how badly he would have killed Killua if he didn't stun him and Watch this to gain some context on the first two quotes.

I have already seen the fight… seen the whole show.

Killua prefers to fight in close combat but if he had the option to use a ranged move when he is tens of meters away while getting there then he will

But did he… that’s what’s important.

if Zoro is hundreds of meters away from his opponent will he just not use his air slashes because he prefers to use close combat?

He will use it because he actually uses it and spams it in and out of combat melee range at the same time… (this Zoro doesn’t even have ranged slashes… I’ll ask wait)

characters have different starting moves depending on the range.

If they did that in the series… other wise because law can control space in his Tom I can give him random thing to do in different situations because of the opponent he is fighting but that’s not how it works… we only use what they did in the series.

 

[SemiRaedi]

so.. possibly 5-20m I would say

If Zoro starts with it then it won't hit since starting distance 100m and Killua's effective range is tens of meters with lightning bolt (he prefers h2h)

This Zoro does have air slashes… ask king tempest he’ll know… or I can.

I think you misunderstood what I said, if Zoro is hundreds of meters from his opponent, he would start with air slashes right?

That’s similar to Zoro

Zoro's motion seems to take a bit longer than just extending your arm to throw so I don't see why Killua can't stun with lightning, not to say Zoro is slow or anything

so I think it’s like his body can move faster than his mind can I think. This doesn’t make faster tho and Zoro can find weaknesses… also I don’t think killua starts with this if I remember correctly

Your speed is determined by movement which involves your mind telling your muscles to move, if he can move faster than his mind can send the signals to his muscles then that means his speed is being amplified since that is faster than his usual speed. Also

Instinctive reaction with Whirlwind By programming his aura to send a command directly to his brain, he completely bypasses the nervous system allowing him to react automatically.

Therefore he doesn't need to activate it it just happens once he gets attacked.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

If Zoro starts with it then it won't hit since starting distance 100m and Killua's effective range is tens of meters with lightning bolt (he prefers h2h)

Well Kingtempest said this Zoro has ranged slashes so Zoro destroys even more…

I think you misunderstood what I said, if Zoro is hundreds of meters from his opponent, he would start with air slashes right?

Yes because that’s what he has done in character… if he used ranged slash hundreds of meters to destroy building then I wouldn’t use it on this match. (I meant doesn’t with that comment not does)

Zoro's motion seems to take a bit longer than just extending your arm to throw so I don't see why Killua can't stun with lightning, not to say Zoro is slow or anything

Zoro’s skill and information analysis will easily let him pull it off…

Your speed is determined by movement which involves your mind telling your muscles to move, if he can move faster than his mind can send the signals to his muscles then that means his speed is being amplified since that is faster than his usual speed. Also

Yes… but if the speed amp is the 8-A version and it gets equalized then that speed amp is the same as zoro’s speed.

Therefore he doesn't need to activate it it just happens once he gets attacked.

No he activates it and then his body can automatically dodge attack for him… I think this has the same timeframe as Godspeed.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Food.

 

[SemiRaedi]

Killua's weaknesses

Idk why you brought it up lol?

I have already seen the fight… seen the whole show.

Then you would know that Killua stuns with all his electric attacks, he did it to Hisoka before he even got godspeed and would also know that if Killua didn't stun Youpi he would be literally dead.

But did he… that’s what’s important.

Killua used it when he was outside of combat range of youpi to save and assist knuckle

He will use it because he actually uses it and spams it in and out of combat melee range at the same time… (this Zoro doesn’t even have ranged slashes… I’ll ask wait)

Just like Killua did on to youpi while knuckle was fighting him and even in this Scan. He doesn't spam it but will use it if he is far from his opponent.

If they did that in the series… other wise because law can control space in his Tom I can give him random thing to do in different situations because of the opponent he is fighting but that’s not how it works… we only use what they did in the series.

Your ignoring the fact that Killua has power reading on his profile meaning he can make estimates on his opponents power and his profile also notes Killua's skill in planning meaning he can formulate plans like using lightning bolt to stun and then fight Zoro (wouldn't Zoro's swords conduct Killua's lightning stunning him in the process?).

 

[SemiRaedi]

Well Kingtempest said this Zoro has ranged slashes so Zoro destroys even more…

Yes because that’s what he has done in character… if he used ranged slash hundreds of meters to destroy building then I wouldn’t use it on this match. (I meant doesn’t with that comment not does)

Zoro’s skill and information analysis will easily let him pull it off…


Yes… but if the speed amp is the 8-A version and it gets equalized then that speed amp is the same as zoro’s speed.

No he activates it and then his body can automatically dodge attack for him… I think this has the same timeframe as Godspeed.

Well Kingtempest said this Zoro has ranged slashes so Zoro destroys even more…

Blatant wank, explain how dodgeable wind slashes will destroy someone who is equalised in speed and has instinctive reactions.

Yes because that’s what he has done in character… if he used ranged slash hundreds of meters to destroy building then I wouldn’t use it on this match. (I meant doesn’t with that comment not does)

I showed that he could do it already

Zoro’s skill and information analysis will easily let him pull it off…

How? While Zoro is getting into position Killua just needs to throw his hand out and boom Zoro is stunned. Killua has power reading on his profile which is listed as information analysis here so he will be able to roughly estimate the strength of Shi Shi and react accordingly.

Explain why Zoro hits him instead of Killua just throwing lightning to paralyse Zoro.

Yes… but if the speed amp is the 8-A version and it gets equalized then that speed amp is the same as zoro’s speed.

The speed amp literally makes him move faster than his base speed which is what Zoro is equalised to, Zoro won't be able to normally hit whirlwind, with Shi Shi Son Son it is debatable since Killua has used the technique to literally block attacks that only become corporeal once they hit their target meaning Killua reacted to an attack that only existed once it hit him meanwhile Zoro can simply blitz an opponent roughly equal in speed.

No he activates it and then his body can automatically dodge attack for him… I think this has the same timeframe as Godspeed.

Proof? The profile literally says it's programmed into his aura meaning it's passive.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Idk why you brought it up lol?

Then you would know that Killua stuns with all his electric attacks, he did it to Hisoka before he even got godspeed and would also know that if Killua didn't stun Youpi he would be literally dead.

I don't Remember him stunning people that much...

Killua used it when he was outside of combat range of youpi to save and assist knuckle

It was a diversion and a way to slow down the opponent. Not sure how he'll use it on this fight...

Just like Killua did on to youpi while knuckle was fighting him and even in this Scan. He doesn't spam it but will use it if he is far from his opponent.

Scan does work and if he doesn't spam then that's quite bad... Zoro will able to slash it with ranged slashes...

Your ignoring the fact that Killua has power reading on his profile meaning he can make estimates on his opponents power and his profile also notes Killua's skill in planning meaning he can formulate plans like using lightning bolt to stun and then fight Zoro (wouldn't Zoro's swords conduct Killua's lightning stunning him in the process?).

You are forgetting Zoro has Information Analysis... (A better version of Power Reading)

 

[SemiRaedi]

I don't Remember him stunning people that much...

It was a diversion and a way to slow down the opponent. Not sure how he'll use it on this fight...

Scan does work and if he doesn't spam then that's quite bad... Zoro will able to slash it with ranged slashes...

You are forgetting Zoro has Information Analysis... (A better version of Power Reading)

On his profile it says he stuns on contact with godspeed.

Even if it is a diversion, if Killua is tens of meters away then he will use it just like that.

And are you even reading my comments properly? Although Killua doesn't spam, Zoro will not be able to even remotely react to the attack because Zoro is equalised to Killua's Hypersonic+ speed while the attack is MHS+.

I'm not forgetting anything, Zoro can use information analysis to understand how godspeed works since that is easy compared to understanding a curse which is abstract but that won't help him it will just tell him that he needs Shi Shi son son to hit Killua.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Blatant wank, explain how dodgeable wind slashes will destroy someone who is equalised in speed and has instinctive reactions.

Zoro spams... While moving... And he uses them in melee range which is near point blank and an aoe Which killue won't be able to dodge... Maybe some that will lead him in to a trap or something.

I showed that he could do it already

well once for someone to land an attack...

How? While Zoro is getting into position Killua just needs to throw his hand out and boom Zoro is stunned. Killua has power reading on his profile which is listed as information analysis here so he will be able to roughly estimate the strength of Shi Shi and react accordingly.

Wrong. Information analysis is much better than power reading... Power reading only says who is weaker or stronger while information analysis does much more.

Explain why Zoro hits him instead of Killua just throwing lightning to paralyse Zoro.

Zoro will ranged slashs the lightning... And he can spam...

The speed amp literally makes him move faster than his base speed which is what Zoro is equalised to, Zoro won't be able to normally hit whirlwind, with Shi Shi Son Son it is debatable since Killua has used the technique to literally block attacks that only become corporeal once they hit their target meaning Killua reacted to an attack that only existed once it hit him meanwhile Zoro can simply blitz an opponent roughly equal in speed.

Again Zoro can spam ranged slashes which is kinda aoe and killua has a limited time which won't be enough to kill Zoro...

 

[SemiRaedi]

You said you watched HxH as an argument smh

You can go rewatch the fights where he has lightning attacks to see him do it or just read through his profile thoroughly to understand him better.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

On his profile it says he stuns on contact with godspeed.

It says with electricity manipulation...

Even if it is a diversion, if Killua is tens of meters away then he will use it just like that.

One time... The starting distance is 100 meters.. Zoro would spam ranged slashes which would make killua into god speed and Zoro waits for him to come in close and use ShiShi SonSon...

And are you even reading my comments properly? Although Killua doesn't spam, Zoro will not be able to even remotely react to the attack because Zoro is equalised to Killua's Hypersonic+ speed while the attack is MHS+.

Zoro can see that killua is throwing something and killua needs to be 10s of meters..

I'm not forgetting anything, Zoro can use information analysis to understand how godspeed works since that is easy compared to understanding a curse which is abstract but that won't help him it will just tell him that he needs Shi Shi son son to hit Killua.

weaknesses... And more... He'll know it has a time limit as well...

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

You said you watched HxH as an argument smh

No... I didn't... I said that so you know that I have watched it... So you don't show pointless videos.

You can go rewatch the fights where he has lightning attacks to see him do it or just read through his profile thoroughly to understand him better.

I did read his profile multiple times... And I remember some things without it.

 

[SemiRaedi]

Zoro spams... While moving... And he uses them in melee range which is near point blank and an aoe Which killue won't be able to dodge... Maybe some that will lead him in to a trap or something.

well once for someone to land an attack...

Wrong. Information analysis is much better than power reading... Power reading only says who is weaker or stronger while information analysis does much more.

Zoro will ranged slashs the lightning... And he can spam...

Again Zoro can spam ranged slashes which is kinda aoe and killua has a limited time which won't be enough to kill Zoro...

Zoro spams... While moving... And he uses them in melee range which is near point blank and an aoe Which killue won't be able to dodge... Maybe some that will lead him in to a trap or something.

That should give Killua trouble but they don't really show how they can beat Killua's skill in dodging and instinctive reaction. In close combat Killua's instinctive reaction should help him since he increased his initial speed to dodge attacks.

well once for someone to land an attack...

Whose to say he won't use it to land his own attacks, Killua isn't stupid enough to not utilise his only ranged attack which he used to stun an opponent to make hitting them easier.

Wrong. Information analysis is much better than power reading... Power reading only says who is weaker or stronger while information analysis does much more.

When did I ever say that it wasn't much better, also list all the things Zoro does with information analysis then, Zoro's page says he uses it to understand how abilities work while Killua's says he can use it to understand the opponents strength with a glance.

Zoro will ranged slashs the lightning... And he can spam...

Lightning more than 400,000x faster than him m/s wise.

Again Zoro can spam ranged slashes which is kinda aoe and killua has a limited time which won't be enough to kill Zoro...

Again Killua can dodge and I was avoiding saying this since I feel like I would sound biased but what stops Killua from stunning Zoro and then going for decapitation, since his sword is made of metal it will easily conduct the lightning making Zoro stunned easier. Youpi was stunned for extremely long so why can't Killua just stab his fingers through Zoro's neck in that time?

 

[SemiRaedi]

Alright since this isn't going anywhere I'll just count your vote for Zoro, I'll see if I can get other HxH supporters to come and put their input since they're more reliable than me.

 

[SemiRaedi]

Also Killua starts in godspeed, I specified that in OP

 

[SemiRaedi]

Here's a more interesting match Including Ace

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

That should give Killua trouble but they don't really show how they can beat Killua's skill in dodging and instinctive reaction. In close combat Killua's instinctive reaction should help him since he increased his initial speed to dodge attacks.

He uses god speed to use instinctive reaction...

Whose to say he won't use it to land his own attacks, Killua isn't stupid enough to not utilise his only ranged attack which he used to stun an opponent to make hitting them easier.

Well... I think that's how it works... If he hasn't used it in a 1v1 then he won't use it in this match... He'll use physical or some type of electricity that requires him to be close...

When did I ever say that it wasn't much better, also list all the things Zoro does with information analysis then, Zoro's page says he uses it to understand how abilities work while Killua's says he can use it to understand the opponents strength with a glance.

Information Analysis (Zoro can deduce how certain abilities work, find his opponents strengths and weakness

Lightning more than 400,000x faster than him m/s wise.

you sure? But again even if that was the case Zoro would know and slash the same time killua throws it... Even tho he never does it in a 1v1.

Again Killua can dodge and I was avoiding saying this since I feel like I would sound biased but what stops Killua from stunning Zoro and then going for decapitation, since his sword is made of metal it will easily conduct the lightning making Zoro stunned easier. Youpi was stunned for extremely long so why can't Killua just stab his fingers through Zoro's neck in that time?

How does he start stunning Zoro when Zoro uses ShiShi Sonson if killua comes close...

Alright since this isn't going anywhere I'll just count your vote for Zoro, I'll see if I can get other HxH supporters to come and put their input since they're more reliable than me.

All you said was kinda biased af... let me just say this Zoro skill >>> Killua skill... Zoro is a MUCH better 1v1 fighter...

Also Killua starts in godspeed, I specified that in OP

But then that means speed is equalized on God Speed...?

 

[SemiRaedi]

All you said was kinda biased af... let me just say this Zoro skill >>> Killua skill... Zoro is a MUCH better 1v1 fighter...

But then that means speed is equalized on God Speed...?

Since I've already counted your vote since arguing with you went nowhere I'll answer just these two questions (I'm more interested in my Orochi Vs Ace thread since HxH is unpopular).

Explain why Zoro's skill is better and I wasnt being biased, I simply defended Killua since you were acting like Zoro destroys him even though he doesn't. You say "Zoro is way better lmao" but never explain why.

Yes God Speed is equalised, I literally said that's the key he is using which is why all his attacks stun because if the aura and why his instinctive reaction is always on. I thought you read the profile.

Just go on my Orochi Vs Ace thread, you'll find less "biased af" people there.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Explain why Zoro's skill is better and I wasnt being biased, I simply defended Killua since you were acting like Zoro destroys him even though he doesn't. You say "Zoro is way better lmao" but never explain why.

Bro... I haven't slept... Can I link someone else who showed scans and explained better?

Yes God Speed is equalised, I literally said that's the key he is using which is why all his attacks stun because if the aura and why his instinctive reaction is always on. I thought you read the profile.

does he need to activate his instinctive reaction in his god speed mode tho?

Just go on my Orochi Vs Ace thread, you'll find less "biased af" people there.

Well hope I won't get spoiled

 

[SemiRaedi]

Bro... I haven't slept... Can I link someone else who showed scans and explained better?

does he need to activate his instinctive reaction in his god speed mode tho?

Well hope I won't get spoiled

If you want, I mean I already counted your vote so you don't have to man. Get some sleep too, more important than debating online.

In Godspeed instinctive reaction is passive

Wdym?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Wdym?

Only watch animes not manga...

If you want, I mean I already counted your vote so you don't have to man. Get some sleep too, more important than debating online.

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