It is ambiguous to say, Orochi's heat could melt the surrounding rocks however Ace stopped an entire island from snowing with his heat.
He can with energy blastsThis is a stomp... I think Orochi can't touch Ace....
How? Wouldn't it go straight through him?
He can literally bury Ace in energy blasts and having a body made of plasma (since fire's state of matter is plasma) can still be harmed by other plasma like attacks.
Because akainu used haki which hits ace's true body... Which gets burned... You can't burn fire... Otherwise crocodile's sand should get completely burned to dust...
He did not get killed because his magma has superior heat, he got killed because Akainu's magma has the ability to burn fire, like Amaterasu from Naruto which can burn flames. It's not a weakness for Ace, it's a plus for Akainu.
Which is not talking about how Ace is "weak" to magma, it just means that he's weak to Akainu's fruit.D: About the powers from the Dressrosa Arc that Doflamingo's officers have... are they pretty much just improved versions of the abilities that the Baroque Works members had (so like Ton Ton → Kiro Kiro, Beta Beta → Doru Doru, Buki Buki → Supa Supa, and Pamu Pamu → Bomu Bomu)? from TaokaS43
O: It's true that "superior" devil fruit abilities are a thing, but as of now, it's pretty much just these four pairs.
(Ton Ton > Kiro Kiro, Hie Hie > Yuki Yuki, Magu Magu > Mera Mera, Buki Buki > Supa Supa)
Though there are other fruit pairs out there that might make you wonder don't they pretty much do the same thing?, these abilities tend to be headed in different directions in terms of how they actually work or what they can do. Also, a superior ability does not necessarily equate to the character's strength. No ability alone guarantees victory in combat.
This is incorrect.
No issues, the profiles don’t emphasize this stuff enough
I thought that Ace could be damaged if he was hit by potent enough substances similar to his own, plasma Vs plasma but it turns out I may have misinterpreted Ace being hurt by substances like Akainu's magma is simply his fruit being above Ace's and him using haki (I always thought he didn't need it but ig I thought wrong).
What is there to equalise for Oroch? he has nothing similar to haki so we'd just be giving him haki to beat Ace
So smothering the flames with an energy blast would be valid then?
It potentially could be, but Ace has mid-high regen which can regenerate from that, so...
What is there to regen from? Orochi also shoots giant lightning beams. mid-high regen isn't going to do anything because there is nothing to heal from.
You mean when he got hit by his weakness which negates his fruit and burned his hand?
Did you not read above how anything he does won't hurt Ace?
The reason of Ace's weakness was because his flames got smothered. If he died from a punch through his chest via smothering, why wont a beam that will smother Ace that is at least 10x the size of him, (which Orochi can spam btw) kill him?
WDRSF is meant to redirect force from physical attacks, not fire.
Because that attack can not hurt Ace, and the attack is Ace's weakness because in the Devil Fruit world, Magma is superior to fire, which allowed him to get harmed.
Heat resistance
I feel like you are trolling, because on Ace's profile, it doesn't say that the reason he got hit by magma was because magma is superior to fire. It said that he could hit him because smothers his flame, which Orochi can do.
So you think that Orochi is just going to stand there and not close the distance?
You are definitely trolling. Orochi's flames are 1 gigaton, while Ace's are 1.03 gigatons. I have no Idea what you mean by not comparable.
