Who can possibly beat this team? (Tier 5lolololololol)

[Kaltias]

5-B UKG isn't a threat to Madoka. She is a threat in the "I can't get rid of that thing and it will become dangerous sooner or later".

5-B UKG is right after her birth yes

 

[SchroKatze]

8-Swastikas opened Reinhard. Theres a LOT of things to bakcup that shit. owo

 

[Wokistan]

1A backed rein just doesn't stay dead so wins via attrition. Sensory merc with 1A immortality allowed too.

 

[Kaltias]

Also yeah, UKG, Madoka, False Madoka and AoC are all basically scaled as 5-A minus a joule, right now.

Reason being that Madoka (who is the weakest) is 95 degrees of "ridiculously stronger" compared to characters above baseline 5-B to an unknown amount

 

[SchroKatze]

Reinhard with all 8-Swastikas open is UKG on steroids. His Briah will expand and grow stronger until he turns into 1-A to omegastomp this team. His Briah is already on Atziluth level, just... Welp, restrained by Merc and the atrittion between "Laws".

 

[Wokistan]

Turning 1A is probably not allowed by the rules of the OP, but I don't doubt he'd take it, if his 1A immortality is allowed. For same reasons, 4C mercurius shadow should be able to as well.

 

[SchroKatze]

UKG is going to be a 2-A after some time. Her growth isn't restricted, the same goes for Reinhard

 

[Wokistan]

Can anyone resist 5D mindhax here? excluding Kharn? Because I've been thinking maybe Eldrazi. Emrakul definitely has passive mindhax and a 5D mind/true form, the others I wouldn't be surprised if they do too.

 

[TheDarkSide857]

Whatever. I seriously don't wanna argue right now.

 

[DMB_1]

This guy, maybe? Cthulhu (Cthulhu Saves the World)

 

[DMUA]

Via the mighty powers of PIS, probably.

 

[TheDarkSide857]

She, and a lot of the other 5Bs, are so far above baseline that if the multipliers were taken at face value they'd probably be around 4Bish, but scaling like that is bad so they're just as high into 5B as possible since that's the highest concrete thing that can be determined. Apparently UKG becomes 2A rather quickly, not in seconds but Madoka clearly has to delete it pretty much as soon as it shows up. So yes, it starts 5B unless OP uses 2A, which is not the case here. OP can also disable letting it turn 2A, which idk if is assumed for this thread or not.

Ok, now I'm ready.

As for Gretchen managing to put up a fight against Ultimate Madoka. Ever heard of the word PIS or outlier? Otherwise we might as well bring Black Adam getting his ass handed to him by Black Canary or Black Panther putting Silver Surfer into a headlock.

 

[Peter1129]

@DarkSide

Keep this discussion for a CRT please. If you want to downgrade her then make a CRT.

^

Make a CRT if you disagree. Also it's not PIS or an outlier because it's hax.

 

[SomebodyData]

This really isn't the thread to debate stats, if you disagree make a CRT

 

[RKGenki]

Go ahead. Make the CRT. I'll be glad to debunk it again (yes, someone already tried to downgrade her before).

 

[Jinsye]

Link plz

 

[RKGenki]

Link plz

The debunked one? Here it is