What's the lowest a powerful character has ever been on VBW?

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Just as an example was Mario ever High 8-C or something along those lines?

Why were they so low and/or what changed it?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

5-A haxless Lucemon (and Lavos for that matter). Also, Mario might've been that level you mentioned too

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Mario was Low 7-B at one point

Bayonetta was 8-B

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Ooh, remember 9-C Bowser?

 

[Js250476]

I think Astro Boy was room level at one point

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Should also add why were they so low and/or what changed it?

 

[Js250476]

And Doctor Doom was building level at one point to

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

The Crimson King's avatar was City Block level once, and also lacked a huge number of the more potent hax abilities he showed. Now he's High Hyperverse level.

Tier gaps don't get much higher than that, to be quite honest with you.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Galactus used to be so low he didn't even have a tier.

Joking aside, early Digimon profiles were super low. Cal already mentioned 5-A Lucemon, but there was also:

• Moon level Susanoomo
• Island level Omegamo
• City level WarGreymo
• City level Apocalymo
• Large Building level MegaKabuterimo
• Small Building level Lilymo

Early Power Rangers profiles...need I say more? Wall level Tommy Oliver. Even his super low end feats were usually higher then that, like when he injured a giant T-Rex in base, or the fact that he was comparable to Triassic Ranger Conner, who overpowered a skyscraper sized Monster. Not to mention his speed capped at Superhuman despite how hilariously consistent FTL is in Power Rangers. Even random civilians react to light a few times.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Well, Billy Lee is 9-C right now, but he's most likely going to be upgraded to Low 5-B at some point.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Pretty sure Billy has better feats in the original games too. I recall some stuff that would be at least wall level.

I'm not actually on board with the Low 5-B calc, but the feat in question is defiantly high end Tier 6.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Most of League of Legends was 8-C for a good while despite Low 7-C being VERY consistent (Though that doesnt stop people from trying to argue that theyre 9-C at best...)

 

[VoidGoji]

The Presence was 2-A

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Yeah, he defeated Machine Gun Willy in the original DD, not to mention Abobo's typically smash through brick walls casually. There were also some decent feats demonstrated in the Neo Geo Double Dragon, that would at least make them comparable to Street Fighter characters.

And yeah, I initially found it on ProtoDude's comment on DA, so it was kind of poorly formatted and hard to follow; but hopefully, it can be translated to a proper blog. Billy Lee's going to get a massive upgrade for sure.

On topic, there are a lot of classic 8-Bit and 16-Bit characters who are generally assumed to be at most 8-C but are consistently much higher; not just the ones we got now.

 

[Seventy96]

What is VBW?

 

[Therefir]

Versus Battles Wikia.

 

[Lightbuster30]

MLP comes to mind. Heard they used to be Small Building, now they're Solar System Level. Not the biggest gap, but since it's one of my favorite verses I think it deserves mention.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Not really what we're looking for but Spongebob is currently 10-C and was 7-B and 4-B at different points

 

[Js250476]

Spongebob even has a 5-A feat in the second episode shame we can't use it

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Bugs Bunny used to be Low 2-C then he went to 10-B to 5-B and now he's 5-A.

 

[TeenAngel101]

Spongebob even has a 5-A feat in the second episode shame we can't use it

Y

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Because reasons

He performs the same 5-A feat several times throughout the series actually

 

[TeenAngel101]

Btw, I know he was probably 7-B because Bikini Bottom destruction or those scenes where they use nuke explosions.

But where the **** does 4-B come from?

 

[Js250476]

Was it the dolphin from the second movie?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Something about the dolphin from the second movie

 

[Js250476]

Called it I think Dark even calced a feat from it once

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Sorry, it was Low 4-C

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blogarkanine/Spongebob:_Bubbles_the_Dolphi

The 4-B stuff comes from the pocket reality spongebob made within a locker

 

[TeenAngel101]

The feat Dark did was Low 4-C.

I checked and he was actually 4-A for shoving a bunch of stars and planets in his locker.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

IIRC My little pony god tiers used to be only 7-B and now they are 4-B


Doctor Doom used to be unknown

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Pokémon used to be super low I hear.

Maybe @Cal could tell more about it.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

The Primarchs used to be Low 5-B and MHS+

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Mister Fantastic was once Unknown tier

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Holy crap, I forgot about Swamp Thing used to be ludicrously downplayed.

 

[Js250476]

Not as bad but I remember Superman was like Large planet at best at one point

 

[TeenAngel101]

Cole MacGrath is going to be High 6-A, but he was originally High 8-C with 9-B durability.

 

[Js250476]

Reminder Thor used to be supersonic and Silver Surfer was massively Hypersonic at one point

 

[TeenAngel101]

He was also 5-A with physical blows and 4-C with energy blasts.

Why the **** he like that anyway? It was like when MLP was rated as 4-C via "a specific hax".

 

[Js250476]

That would only make sense if the energy blasts were stronger but I'm pretty sure that isn't the case Superman was similarly 5-A with only being 4-C via IMP to

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Nyarlathotep_(Cthulhu_Mythos)?diff=next&oldid=59772

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Beerus use to be 4-B iirc.