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We need to get DC Presence content right!

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PRIDEXEGO said:
what you are saying make no sense have you read lucifer series 2 that thing came and proclaim himself as god as their was no one else their to took the seat of god since real presence left and angel cant consider elaine bolic as god.
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Can you provide scans of this?
 
Given that the old Lucifer series was cancelled, it is uncertain if that was supposed to be the original Presence or just an impostor, so even though the creator of this thread brought forth the point in an inappropriate manner, he is right that we likely should remove that mention within the profile.

Somebody should ask Matthew Schroeder to comment here first though.
 
their are lots canditates who can took the seat of gods and some can even force it upon themseleves
 
pls tell what limitation does presence have aside being shaped by external forces and that isnt real presence at all
 
dude i can provide more but if you see last scan i gave lots of canditates volunteered for next god..
 
PRIDEXEGO said:
dude i can provide more but if you see last scan i gave lots of canditates volunteered for next god..
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In that scan non one volunteered

Not to mention this is a bit of a non-sequitur argument
 
geb was absorbed by presence what are you even talking and presence even remain the same no change in him
 
to prove me wrong that you guys have actually read these series pls tell me why gabriel has a hole in his heart ?if you tell me the answer i will consider that you guys have knowlege of dc/vertigo. Not just google power.
 
PRIDEXEGO said:
to prove me wrong that you guys have actually read these series pls tell me why gabriel has a hole in his heart ?if you tell me the answer i will consider that you guys have knowlege of dc/vertigo. Not just google power.
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This has nothing to do with unrelated facts and trivia about the series.

Regardless though, I agree with you now.
 
real presence never died he just left dc in lucifer series #1 and never come back! this series 2 never outright said the real presence died or anything at all the whole thing is a manipulated mess by the dark presence.
 
Yobo Blue said:
Though it's clear he more or less died either way, so I'm not sure what difference it makes.
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real presence never died he just left dc in lucifer series #1 and never come back! this series 2 never outright said the real presence died or anything at all the whole thing is a manipulated mess by the dark presence. Toprove this fact when gabriel fist arive and said to lucifer he kill god lucifer clearly said he would know if the real god would have died and he was completely unware of "god dead conspiracy that was going on in heaven".
 
Even disregarding the Evil Presence he has 0 proof of being Tier 0 in the original Lucifer comics where he does show limitations.

DC Comics Presence had 1/3 of his power drained in a 90s Supergirl Series, and had an equal opposite in the Great Evil Beast
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
Even disregarding the Evil Presence he has 0 proof of being Tier 0 in the original Lucifer comics where he does show limitations.
DC Comics Presence had 1/3 of his power drained in a 90s Supergirl Series, and had an equal opposite in the Great Evil Beast
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dude if you drained 1/3 power of omnipotent being is it not omnipotent ? Tell me where does dc presence shown anylimtation where it shows he cant do something ? regarding geb he absorbed him whole and didnt change much at all and this thing /thread is not about tier 0 but to make content right first

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Matthew Schroeder said:
Even disregarding the Evil Presence he has 0 proof of being Tier 0 in the original Lucifer comics where he does show limitations.
DC Comics Presence had 1/3 of his power drained in a 90s Supergirl Series, and had an equal opposite in the Great Evil Beast
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the main point lucifer didnt kill presence he killed dark presence/dark god /fire god pretending to be presence this has nothing to do with real presence.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
Here's another. The Carnivore absorbed part of the power of the Presence, and was countered and ultimately defeated by Linda Danvers acting as the Avatar of the Schechina, God's Gentle, Feminine aspect who keeps his darker and more wrathful aspect in check.
The Holly Black Lucifer run actually reminds me a lot of the Carnivore storyline, with the villain being a dark and twisted version of God and there being a positive and feminine version of God among those that oppose him.
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they can be a simple aspect of true presence from lucifer series 1 but they are not real presence especially dark god and geb is not as strong as presence at all thats the reason why geb got absorbed whole by presence.
 
Iapitus The Impaler said:
The Great Evil Beast is an obvious limitation of the presence
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geb got absorbed by presence not other way around and he is definately not a limitation at all in series 1 #75 presence wanted to merge with lucifer too but he didnt want to do it forcefully he wanted his concern first if he wanted to do it wishfully.
 
Dude. The Presence and the Great Darkness are equal opposites. Literally depicted as two hands locked in an eternal arms wrestle. And they can only end their fight by ceasing the conflict and becoming one. Similarly, the Presence's Male and Feminine halves are equal in the story and can be confronted. That the Carnivore actually absorbed part of the Presence's power is proof enough that he's not Omnipotent.
 
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