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Was this ever done? Yhwach vs Novel Kars
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already made and Yhwach crushes via passive like last thread.
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passive > GER = dead before it began
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Ger is passive though
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Not gonna have a rerun here.
Already done, and this was already argued.
edit- wrong thread lul
edit 2- Actually nvm, It was changed halfway through I think.
https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2729169#113
Already done, and this was already argued.
edit- wrong thread lul
edit 2- Actually nvm, It was changed halfway through I think.
https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2729169#113
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And if i change to Novel kars?
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Ok now it's Novel Kars vs Yhwach. Let's see if anything changes.
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Novel Kars definitely makes this more interesting. After he gets crushed a few times, and gets brought back by D4CU, he should understand it and gain it for himself, there by granting himself spiritual pressure
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Spiritual Crush is vastly overestimated afaik
literally the only feat of it, to my knowledge, is a 6-B against a normal Human
also, Understand GG and Yhwach has no win conditions due to D4CU
literally the only feat of it, to my knowledge, is a 6-B against a normal Human
also, Understand GG and Yhwach has no win conditions due to D4CU
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Yhwach got some pretty good upgrades, can Kars deal with type 2 Acausality?
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Feel free to make a CRT explaining why the gap has to be in the thousands to millions between individuals.
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Ofc they don't do it all the time, what would be the purpose of killing everyone via standing there? this is neutral fight where random people are placed in a battle scenario at their full potential.
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There's also this time where Aizen passively was dissolving this guy, who is far stronger than a normal human.Hl3 or bust said:
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Jojo? This is Kars. Whats stopping Kars from eventually adapting and slapping Yhwach?
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Does Kars resist Power Null, Fate Manipulation, or Absorption?EmperorDoom25 said:
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>Powernull
Pretty sure Adaptation and Reactive Evolution already deals with that
>Fate manip/Almighty
How is that gonna help? I mean, he cant choose a future where Kars doesnt adapt because his adaptation is passive
>Absorption
Yes
Pretty sure Adaptation and Reactive Evolution already deals with that
>Fate manip/Almighty
How is that gonna help? I mean, he cant choose a future where Kars doesnt adapt because his adaptation is passive
>Absorption
Yes
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If his adaption and reactive evolution get nulled, then they would be useless.EmperorDoom25 said:
Where is his resistence to Absorption? I don't see it on the profile.
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How does Yhwach's absorption works? And does he uses in character?
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And Kars adaption comes from understanding the enemy's power, and its also a biological thing. So unless Yhwach's powernull can affect Kars mind, Kars will still adapt to it
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Yhawch puts his hand on his opponent and absorbs them into his body - gaining all of their powers and abilites.EmperorDoom25 said:
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Yhwach's absorption is actually one of his most used powers right after The Almighty.
He used one variant against Yamamoto instantly, another against Ichibe prior to The Almighty activating, its the very first thing he does to Mimihagi, he does it to Ichigo to rub salt in the wound after pwning the strawberry, and even Royd (who had copied Yhwach's personality) used the second one against Yamamoto.
He used one variant against Yamamoto instantly, another against Ichibe prior to The Almighty activating, its the very first thing he does to Mimihagi, he does it to Ichigo to rub salt in the wound after pwning the strawberry, and even Royd (who had copied Yhwach's personality) used the second one against Yamamoto.
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It is still a power, one that will take Yhwach's side unless Kars has the resistance.EmperorDoom25 said:
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It's not an actual power though. It's more like Kars realizes he always had it in the first place.
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About the Almighty's power null, Yhwach's explanation specifies it is only against powers that will harm him so I am not sure how effective it is.
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Yhwach says the Almighty is the ability to steal "all power" and that the powers that take his side can't be used to harm him.AnonymousBlank said:
Not that he can only affect powers that would harm him.
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If this was already, i'll say it again. This is a massive NLF the way your wording this.Warren Valion said:
What established limit do we have on Yhwach's power null?
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The Almighty is the God Tier ability in the verse - there are no limits.ProfessorKukui4Life said:
It is called the Almighty for a reason.
And the way I word it is the same way Yhwach worded it.
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Being the "god tier ability in the verse" is not at all a reason to not have an established limit on a characters hax in the slightest. Unless you think Yhwach can null 2-C or higher abilities for instance.
If there's no established limit, then im taking this to a CRT.
If there's no established limit, then im taking this to a CRT.
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Nulling type 3 concept manipulation and wiki dimensional standards.
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God tier ability in the verse means that there was, nor is, no limit to the ability in the verse.ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Where did you get 2-C abilites from? Of course Yhwach can't negate higher dimensional abilites.
There's a limit of dimensionality and of resistance - this should be obvious.
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>God tier ability in the verse means that there was, nor is, no limit to the ability in the verse.
Which is the textbook definition of a No Limits Fallacy. There being no limit in his own verse is irrelevant to vs debating other verses.
>Where did you get 2-C abilites from?
Was an example to try and show why "god tier abilities in verse" doesnt mean it doesnt have a limitation for vs debating.
>Of course Yhwach can't negate higher dimensional abilites.
Which means his power null has a limit. The only question is where that said limit is established at, which was what I was asking for so that the ability doesnt get wanked in debates.
Which is the textbook definition of a No Limits Fallacy. There being no limit in his own verse is irrelevant to vs debating other verses.
>Where did you get 2-C abilites from?
Was an example to try and show why "god tier abilities in verse" doesnt mean it doesnt have a limitation for vs debating.
>Of course Yhwach can't negate higher dimensional abilites.
Which means his power null has a limit. The only question is where that said limit is established at, which was what I was asking for so that the ability doesnt get wanked in debates.
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