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Warriors of Heaven and Hell: The Most Skilled on the Wiki!
, lmao
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Is it fair to suggest first place, then? Just about everything Dante does Archer could replicate except for maybe detective skills (and that would mostly be because of his very trusting personality) and the omnidirectional dodging thing which to be honest seems like PIS, that's not really a result that could be achieved via sheer skill.
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The description you provided sounds like the same thing Shura has which I posted about earlier today.
+ Shura has fought literal Infinite battles let me grab the scans of that.
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Your free to debate DMC supporters for the 1st spot, specifically @Tony_di_bugalu who got Dante in there.
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of course
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Monkey why are you so dumb
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I see. I'm not too interested in debating but maybe they'll agree.
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Is funny how much activity suddenly happened, I'm ouside and when I go home will be busy for some time, so will take a bit to answer but in beginning I also don't believe Ikki go above Kouki, will also try to begin to submit the other Arifureta characters.
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This is what zoro can do
Which is similar to this
The bottom bit even says it was via his skill/swordsmenship
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Mashle... That's literally all I need to say
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I have never been so hyped for a game ngl
Cry about the fact that Mash and any Visionary has better stamina and skill feats than Zoro
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Lol, sadness + who?
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What are you guys even debating about, ain't top 5 sword users already full?
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There were another trailer yesterday (I think) at gamescon 2022
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Sorry Monkey, but your mom in my bed at this very moment is asking me how the laws of muscle work. I will teach her
We'll talk later
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I'm not here to debate... That's what you guys do
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Too predictable.... But anyway, I don't joke around about stuff like that, so you'll see what will happen
Try saying that to me in real life
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Let's try and keep the thread on-topic though.
@TheUnshakableOne you need to edit your new scans into your original post for Shura, so that if he's accepted into the list his feats can be linked without having to link multiple posts.
@TheUnshakableOne you need to edit your new scans into your original post for Shura, so that if he's accepted into the list his feats can be linked without having to link multiple posts.
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Yeah obv, it's just that the debate seems to be between 2 people who aren't on the list...
I spent some time on Reddit lately, so it sounds like a debate to me.
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Okay everyone, shut up
I will turn this into Lies of P Discussion Thread
Gameplay launched
I will turn this into Lies of P Discussion Thread
Gameplay launched
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alrighty, good thing i was working on that which is why i deleted my other comment lol
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edited itId like to see if Capricorn Shura has a possibility of entering a spot for Swordsman (or er maybe martial arts? you see.. his body is the holy sword exalibur)
giving a quick run down.
- All Saints are trained in every martial arts at a very young age including sword techniques like the Tararus Saint for example who doesn't even use a sword but incorporates the iai technique for his "great horn ability." Additionally, there is unconvential and additional pressure points on saints that spells certain death if struck. |||| shura is no exception to this.
- A Saints skill at adapting to an opponent is excellent. They just need to see a technique once and they can counter it the next time.
- Saints can additionally take brutal injuries and still continue to fight (which should already listed on their profiles) and shura is no exception to this either. He lost both his arms and his legs and was still using his body as the holy sword Excalibur to continue fighting.
- A true swordsman can predict up to 30% of oncoming attacks, but Roland could predict with accuracy greater than 90%. Shura countered Roland's analytical prediction with his eyes closed.
- even before that he was already doing a great job countering Roland's attacks that had Analytical Prediction involved with them. Some of these attacks were omnidirectional homing attacks and a Danmaku (should be in the link above)
- Despite Saints having mastered many different types of martial arts style. Shura still creates new attacks when fighting Saints from other worlds whom have seen many techniques to counter as they fought in many battles. The Gladiators are an excellent example as they are Saints from another world, and they went from World to World to conquer god knows how many other universes.
Edit: imgur messed up and made some of the scans in the links out of order. fack
Edit 2:
Adding more to Capricorn Shura here.
Capricorn Shura got stuck in a limbo state where he was forced to fight for eternity to save infinite worlds.
無限に存在する「現在」を救う為永久に闘う「修羅」と化したのか?
Translation:
Have you become an ashura who fights eternally in order to save the
infinite worlds/presents(?)
Translated here
無限に存在する多次元宇宙
その世界に広がる水遠の滅びの中で
別の世界の自分すら倒し
未来を変える道を探し続けた先に辿り着く境地
translation:
The infinite multidimensional universes.
In the perdition of the watery distance that spreads over that world.
I have defeated even my own self in another world.
The state that is reached when one continues to search for a way to change the future.
even fought other worldly variants of his own self.
Analytical prediction wise. He's near 100%. He out scales someone who has ">90% accuracy."
Said Analytical Predictions involves predicting how the opponent will move
Both Roland and Shura go into it in detail on how they predict each other moves. Shura had to out predict the predicter.
link to it is here
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So yeah.. he has a literal eternity/infinity of battle experience and all of those battles weren't exactly easy for him. it wasn't like he was fighting fodder.
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The effect ikki has on skill debates what can i say.
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There will be bloodshed, it's the only thing I've ever known.
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That he can but most of that extra he deduces isn't that relevant to his combat ability. I suppose I can give you this in terms of more information gained though.
Noted I suppose but that's a fairly nebulous application of it in terms of comparing to others.
Alright.
Alright.
Yeah, but that was mentioned more due to how much better Ning is at his own swords precision than archery precision.
Alright.
He's really good but a lot of the stuff that he can do like Ning (gauging potential, use mundane items at weapons etc.) is achieved by the latter at a far lower threshold of sword skill than he is at this current threshold of sword ability.
Might be up to others to compare our arguments for both of em I suppose.
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Welp, at least Sion got a bit of exposure. Read Knight Run
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