Warcraft: The Light and Shadow - Void

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Wouldn't shadow magic be void manipulation? Due to the fact that it channleing the powers of Shadow which is nothingness.

 

[Desmond253]

I get the soul manipulation but why matter manipulation for creating helya's new body?

Maybe depends on who it is using it, Sylvanas can use shadow magic that has nothing to do with the coid, but say your playing on your priest and you use shadow magic you are calling on the powers of the voids

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Matter manipulation for shattering her physical form.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

I was also thinking that the Titan-Forged may get type 8 immortality reliant on the Titans. The Titan Keeper can use their powers too.

 

[Desmond253]

That feels like a reach to me, when I read that it sounds to me like he at best vaporized her body and put her spirit into a new one.

 

[Desmond253]

while were talking about Odyn why is he only 6-C when the Demon Hunters (and the other player characters) have a rating of at least 6-C, Odyn can one-shot us

 

[Myriadofmemes]

No, no to pretty much everything proposed in this thread, holy molly I can't keep up.

Edit:

Oh crap, I forgot that the Demon Hunter profile existed months ago. The ratings are absolutely inaccurate and in need of changing ASAP.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Infinite timelines?https://media.discordapp.net/attach...093/492782239105679384/ifninite_timelines.png

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Titans have concept manipulation? Nozdormu became the concept of time.

https://media.discordapp.net/attach...655297150987/nozdormu.png?width=400&height=65

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/376385685491417093/492785756125790218/reFU7FP.png

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Titans view him as a slug

https://media.discordapp.net/attach...1874719772/comparison.png?width=400&height=45

 

[Desmond253]

Maybe. we went back in time to stop Murzond and to retrieve the dragon soul, but after we finish killing deathwing we put the dragon soul back where we got it so idk

 

[Sliporez]

some statements supporting 2-A

 

[Udlmaster]

some statements supporting 2-A

Gets a like from me.

 

[Desmond253]

Ya know I have that trinket, I never read the flavor text until now

 

[Sliporez]

there is also this finger but its probably just an outlier

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=256544/end-of-all-things

 

[Sliporez]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=256544/end-of-all-things

argus is currently ranket high 3-A for that

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Shouldn't Sargeras be comparable? Also, ending creation implies 2-A.

 

[Desmond253]

We dont know if he can actually wipe out all of creation or if that's just hyperbole it's safer to say he just wipes out the entire universe rather than all of creation

 

[Sliporez]

I am not sure ending creation can be 2-A I suppose

sargeras can posses argus so he can scale

 

[Sliporez]

sargeras can scale from nozdormu at worst

he have some low 2-C statements

 

[Desmond253]

If you're going to scale Sargeras to Nozdormu you might aswell scale him to Aman'thul who is superior to Nozdormu in every way.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

I think Sageras should at least be Low 2-C then.

 

[Sliporez]

yes that is true

I was wondering if there is 1 nozdormu for every timeway and amanthul is superior to them

can he actually be 2-A? I know character cant be 2-A for being infinitly superior to low 2-C

but can he be 2-A for being superior to infinite amount of low 2-Cs?

 

[Desmond253]

What does Sargeras do that is Low 2-C?

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

ÔÇïÔÇïÔÇïÔÇïÔÇïÔÇïhttps://wow.gamepedia.com/g00/A_Time_to_Reflect?i10c.encReferrer=&i10c.ua=1

"What Pandaria creatures are the embodiments of negative emotions including doubt, despair, and anger? Mantid. Virmen. Hozen. Sha."

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

https://media.discordapp.net/attach...0/immeasurable_speed.png?width=400&height=249

Nozdormu view time unlinerly and then he himself is a slug compared to the Titans

 

[Sliporez]

he is superior to nozdormu who is embodiment of past present and future

Murozond, his corrupted yet equal self, shattered the timelines

nozdormu can shake the universe with roar

 

[Myriadofmemes]

No, Sargeras doesn't scale to Argus. This has already been greatly discussed and rejected.

 

[Myriadofmemes]

Neither is Nozdormu the Embodiment of time. He doesn't even embody Azeroth's time, let alone time in the whole universe.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

And why isn't he the embodiment of time?

 

[Sliporez]

Neither is Nozdormu the Embodiment of time. He doesn't even embody Azeroth's time, let alone time in the whole universe.

fair enough I guess but there are still other sthings implying 'low 2'-C

 

[Desmond253]

Cause time still moves even when Nozdormu dies

 

[Myriadofmemes]

Because it doesn't actually say that? There's one important word missing in your scan, not that it would matter if it was there anyways. It would be nothing more then hyperbole, flowery language.

 

[Sliporez]

Cause time still moves even when Nozdormu dies

that is a good point sorry for my misinformation

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Ok fair enough.

Shouldn't we add the Old Gods, Yogg-Saron for example?

https://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Yogg-Saron_(tactics)

The games and lore seem to be very different obviously. Would that all come down to game mechanics?

 

[Myriadofmemes]

Yogg already has a profile, there's a few abilities missing from the lore that should probably be added though.

Edit:

As for game mechanics, most of his spells and abilities in the game aren't that. Game Mechanics is something much more specific.

 

[Sliporez]

yogg-saro has a profile already

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Oh. I'm being misled by the Warcraft page. I will read the black empire to look for abilities. One of them off head should be the creation of the 2 species.

 

[Desmond253]

wait yogg-saron is at least 6-A and the Titan Keepers are 6-C how exactly did the Titan Keepers seal the Old Gods in their prisons if the Old Gods could just one-shot them