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Watch out for slight rants

1.- BoS Invincible/Allen
The show went it's way to make a point twice that the alternate Invincibles don't quite match with Prime, some being defeated by characters far below him in the comic, so we shouldn't really be scaling him to them. A feat of his own has been calculated and accepted so we should go with that

On a similar note, Allen pushing a spaceship away from a star's gravity pull has also been calculated and accepted, upgrading his LS to Class G. Him and BoS Mark are statedly comparable so both their AP and LS are upgraded with this

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On the topic of the Class G upgrade, the elephant of the room is that it's higher than Anissa and Mark lifting the cruise, in which the latter struggled. Personally I'd be fine with removing it and dismissing it as an outlier in the same vein as Mark putting considerable effort on lifting 400 tons, as by that point in the story(Invincible #46) he was stronger than Immortal(Invincible #41) who has a casual Class M feat in literally his first appearance, with a recalc I did that bumps it a bit higher, and in The Pact(which the wiki treats as canon) he launched a huge rock past the moon, which in the mathematically correct version of the calculation that used to be featured in his profile yielded Class T. Hell, in Season 1 of the show he also performs a Class G feat that's also higher but struggling with the cruise happens all the same

2.- Guardians of the Globe High Tiers
Sorry, but how is Bulletproof stronger than Immortal ?

He himself said he's low tier compared to him.
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When all the heroes are captured by Dr. Seismic, he is precisely used as an example of a character that would be crushed against the body of a much stronger one(here Immortal)
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And Immortal is considered a "big gun" alongside Invincible, putting him way above all the other Guardians

What even are the justifications ?
Image is down so we're off to a great start. When has that ever happened ? It can't be this instance, the particle flying out of his mouth isn't even colored red to say it's blood and his dialogue isn't even cut-off to say he was affected
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The Immortal saw it as necessary to use a bomb within himself to explode and kill him in order to escape being captured by Bulletproof.
Except that bomb wasn't for him to but to free the imprisoned Guardians, killing Bulletproof would've just been a bonus

Fortunately for him, there's some ground to scale him to BoS Mark, while also fixing some other character statistics.

Tether Tyrant/Brit's Jet Gloves/Gorgg scaling

Tether Tyrant hurt BoS Invincible enough for it to be emphasized, and later on after Mark's gotten way stronger he recognized how strong he was, so he should solidly scale

Later on, Brit manages to beat both him and Magmaniac with his Jet Gloves, so he scales as well with equipment. He also defeated Octoboss alongside Yeti with them (which his profile for some reason doesn't specify, Jet Gloves and Boots will be added to his equipment with this), who infamously gave Mark a hard time, even if he isn't that injured after the fact

Finally, Gorgg is strong enough to crush one of the gloves
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And a few pages later Bulletproof withstands a hit from him just fine

In summary:
  • Attack Potency
Brit's Jet Gloves: Large Country level (Knocked out Tether Tyrant, who could hurt Beginning of Series Invincible and impress him with his strength)
Bulletproof: Large Country level (Withstood an attack from Gorrg, who could damage Brit's Jet Glove)
Immortal: At least Large Country level (The strongest member of the Guardians of the Globe, considered to be a "big gun" among them alongside Invincible)
  • Lifting Strength
Immortal: At least Class G (Effortlessly threw Bi-Plane into space. Much stronger than Invincible at the beginning of the series)
Bulletproof: Class G (Comparable to Beginning of Series Invincible)

However, I've read that Lifting Strength and Attack Potency should be independent of each other when scaling characters. The thing is the series mainly uses lifting to showcase a character's overall power and they (namely Bulletproof) don't really have many LS feats outside scaling. I'd like to hear input on these

3.- Guardians of the Globe Mid Tiers
We have to start with Wolf-Man, since he's the only one with a profile. He's currently scaling to Bulletproof/Immortal because of:
Which while true, would if anything be a feat for his claws, as with them he can also slice through Reanimen. Physically he clearly isn't meant be as strong as them, Powerplex knocked him out with a single blast, actual random heroes can beat the crap out of him (these heroes would later go and have an even fight with Capes, who are in-universe low tier heroes) and it's portrayed as necessary that Mark had to save him from a big fall(Now, is this more of an instance of writers overestimating fall damage ? Yes, but you get the point)
First, the remnants never fought Bulletproof, that was Gorgg's full form. And second, we only see Yeti fight the remnants in this one page and he one-shots it into smithereens

If it wasn't clear, Yeti is also high tier Guardian, far stronger than others like Black Samson (who got knocked out by Gorgg's full form as seen above) and if this page is anything to go by, comparable to Bulletproof
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If anything Wolf-Man would be comparable to Black Samson himself, who actually seemed to be comparable to the remnants. Luckily, we have this statement that the suit meant to restore his powers had the power to level cities and after recovering them he's strong enough he doesn't need it

In summary:
Wolf-Man: City level (Evenly fought Gorrg remnants, which are comparable to Black Samson, whose powers are at a level where he doesn't need a suit capable of leveling cities) this would be easier if he had a profile, far higher with claws

4.- Guardians of the Globe Low Tiers
Rex is currently Wall level over kicking off two doors...except that's street level. Anyway, here's an actual Wall level feat Rex scales to if anyone has anything to add to it or knows a feat that scales higher that'd be nice.

Also, due to the upgrades to the high tiers, his self-destruction will be upgraded to Large Country level over killing an Invincible variant that severely injured Bulletproof

Iguana Scaling

Iguana is shown to be physically comparable to Rex Splode. Later on, a new Iguana is created, who we have no reason to believe is any different from the previous one, who Best Tiger(Extraordinary Genius) fights because he finds her to be comparable to him
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Best Tiger is comparable to Chupacabra*, who Brit is strong enough to subdue

Summary:
Rex Splode: Wall level physically (His muscle tissue was augmented to make him largely resilient to his own explosions), Building level with regular explosions (Destroyed a large mansion with a baseball), At least Large Country level via self destruction (Charged his own skeleton to kill an Invincible variant, which was strong enough to injure Bulletproof)

Brit: Wall level (Physically subdued Chupacabra, who's comparable to Best Tiger, who matched Iguana, who could endure attacks from Rex Splode)

*Note: While everything seen in Invincible Universe #4 doesn't actually happen and it's described as a "fantasy" by Best Tiger himself, it's still based upon stuff that he could theoretically do. Even when various super-strength characters had their durability downplayed(most notably Bulletproof's), he never pretended he could take them out in a hand-to-hand fight, Chupacabra is the only character he portrayed as comparable to him

Miscellaneous
  • Give Battle Beast "..., higher with bite" as he's recently been shown to be able to dismember someone comparable to him with a couple bites
  • Upgrade Brit's durability to "At least Small Planet level" over Robot's statement that he can't kill him
  • The Meteor Twins tanking the asteroid had their Small Country level end accepted long ago but was never updated, so it's about time. This doesn't really change the scaling of anyone, if anything it adds support that the strongest Earth superheroes(which Wolf-Man and Black Samson clearly aren't) are Tier 6. Also someone contact the guy who made that blog, those aren't Immortal and Bulletproof
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Also someone please take a look at this speed calc, the speed of some of these characters (namely Brit and Wolf-Man) is really bad
Why would this not be aim dodging
You can see movement lines right beneath Japandroid around the time the bullet hits
 
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@Tahoy49574 would Bulletproof, Immortal, and Brit's gloves scaling to Bos Invincible also upscale their lifting strength to Class G as well?
Immortal I believe so, he has a casual Class M feat
Brit not so much, the jet gloves mainly increase AP and he doesn't lift anything notable when they're activated iirc
Bulletproof possibly ? I mean, he doesn't have much against it
 
Also someone contact the guy who made that blog, those aren't Immortal and Bulletproof
Iirc, I had told them that the feat would probably scale to heroes like Immortal and Bulletproof; which I think they took it as "This is Immortal and Bulletproof surviving the meteor".
 
Iirc, I had told them that the feat would probably scale to heroes like Immortal and Bulletproof; which I think they took it as "This is Immortal and Bulletproof surviving the meteor".
What do you think of the revision ?
 
I agree with Cropfist regarding the piercing damage.

I agree with the rest of the CRT otherwise. Nice work.
 
I pretty much agree with everything presented so far (Except Battle Beast's Bite of 87 for reasons Crop already stated)
 
I agree with Cropfist regarding the piercing damage.

I agree with the rest of the CRT otherwise. Nice work.
I pretty much agree with everything presented so far (Except Battle Beast's Bite of 87 for reasons Crop already stated)
Thoughts on this ?
  • Lifting Strength
Immortal: At least Class G (Effortlessly threw Bi-Plane into space. Much stronger than Invincible at the beginning of the series)
Bulletproof: Class G (Comparable to Beginning of Series Invincible)

However, I've read that Lifting Strength and Attack Potency should be independent of each other when scaling characters. The thing is the series mainly uses lifting to showcase a character's overall power and they (namely Bulletproof) don't really have many LS feats outside scaling. I'd like to hear input on these
 
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Iirc, I had told them that the feat would probably scale to heroes like Immortal and Bulletproof; which I think they took it as "This is Immortal and Bulletproof surviving the meteor".
Updated the low tier section
 
I typically stay away from scaling of verses I don't know, but accepted calcs should be fine.
 
I typically stay away from scaling of verses I don't know, but accepted calcs should be fine.
I mean, it's not just about the calculations being correct but also agreeing with the reasonings to apply them, tho I'm assuming that's the case here

Thanks 🙏
 
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