Wang Ling Downgrades

[ShionAH]

Hax and Abilities

• Memory Manipulation, and Mind Manipulation (via "Trick of forgetting," at 50% Wang Ling can erase and insert new memory into the target. At 100% he can also erase the target's mind, making them enter a vegetative state)

This ability just seems weird. The Memory Part is fine but the Mind Manipulation part doesn't seem to make sense, just because Wang Lings immense power can cause someone to get into a vegetative state doesnt mean he "erases" their mind.

• Chi Manipulation

No scans.

• Law Manipulation (Stated to be capable of tampering with the laws of nature[1])

Again no scan. I also heard this is just flowery language about his power.

• Extrasensory Perception (Able to see people's auras, and someone invisible)

No scan, broken link

• Enhanced Senses

No scans.

• Reality Warping (Unintentionally created a universe that was governed by his dreams[1])

Should be limited Creation since he did it unintentionally.

• Dimensional Travel, Teleportation(After he destroys the demon universe, he teleported back to the human world)

This isnt Teleportation, Only DT

• Forcefield Creation (Created force field for Silvia via magic)

Listed twice, broken link with no scans

• Abstract Existence (Shown to embody an entire universe he created including its space-time)

I dont think this is AE. There is also no type provided for some reason.

• Fusionism (Was shown to be capable of fusing with froggy)

No scans.

• Fire Manipulation (Create a bird made of Flame)

No scans, broken link. This would be Creation

• Breath Attack (His breath was strong enough to spread the candle's flames to the entire house to burn it)

No scans, broken link.

• Technology Manipulation (Short circuit the smart phone of the boss of the shadow faction)

No scans, broken link. This would be limited.

• Body Control (Via manipulating DNA and elasticity)

This is only biological manipulation.

• Power Nullification to Absorption (Made starkworm give back all the spritual energy it has absorbed with mere touch)

No scans, broken link.

• Holy Manipulation (Cured Chen's evil spirit and mind via art of purification)

This is purification

• Light Manipulation (Created light using Jingke)

No scans, broken link.

• Power Bestowal (Enlightened his clothes to withstand even nuclear explosions)

This is Stat Amp.

• Space-Time Manipulation and Reality Warping (Wang Ling along with froggy two can cause a singularity which creates a universe with their powers combined)

Again. This is Creation.

• Time Travel (Moving Faster than the speed of light Wang ling was able to time travel)

This is a Immesurable speed feat. Not an hax.

• Weather Manipulation and Technology Manipulation (Upon his spiritual energy being measured, It caused the technology in the city to shut off and A cloud raining down lightning to appear)

This is only Weather Manipulation. That big of a storm would obviously wreck the electricity.

• Resurrection and Possibly Longevity (His power was sealed for 10000 years before his reincarnation according to jingke, so his age should be around that range.)

His power being sealed /=/ Him being able to live more than normal human age.

AP and Stats

• Dwarf Star level (Wang Ling moved three celestial bodies way bigger than earth simultaneously one after another at FTL speed, created an entire new world, capable to destroy world, moved 3 celestial bodies away from earth all together)

Why is this not Low 2-C? He literally created an entire universe.

If this is talking about a planet then the word "world" should be changed with "planet" to not confuse the reader.

 

[Benimōru]

• Abstract Existence (Shown to embody an entire universe he created including its space-time)

I dont think this is AE. There is also no type provided for some reason.

I agree with this.

On the Abstract Existence page, it is specifically written that being an embodiment of some abstractions does not qualify for AE, unless regeneration/immortality feat due to that abstraction or a control feat over that abstraction is performed. So (at least according to the description in the profile) it seems to lack the necessary context.

Embodying a concept is not enough to obtain this ability, an abstract needs feats or reliable statements proving that the concept they represent grants them Immortality/Regeneration or control over the abstraction.

Quick Note: Although the page refers to it as a "concept", it does not make sense to limit it to only concepts. It should apply to every abstraction.

I also have no idea about other stuffs. I will remain neutral due to broken links etc.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

This ability just seems weird. The Memory Part is fine but the Mind Manipulation part doesn't seem to make sense, just because Wang Lings immense power can cause someone to get into a vegetative state doesnt mean he "erases" their mind.

Simple it has the capability of affecting the mind by giving it a vegatative state. Aka Mind Manipulation, I don't understand your point. It isn't caused by his power, it's done by an innate ability or technique. Cultivation technique I should say.

No scans for certain stuff are probably Reiner (the creator of the page forgetting to add them or just them already being accepted. This happens alot of times with other pages so it doesn't really matter much. Links that are broken can simply be replaced which I was going to do when I get confirmation to open the page again.

This isnt Teleportation, Only DT

It is teleportation...

The ability to move instantaneously from one location to another without physically occupying the space in between

Dimensional Travel can be considered Teleportation vice versa since it's literally listed on the same page, just added both which there's no problem with such.

This is purification

Thanks for mentioning, it should be indeed but idk the type.

This is Stat Amp.

Stat amp can be power Bestowal, it's giving another object new abilities and properties in this context. It's literally both but power Bestowal is more fitting.

Again. This is Creation.

Obviously, it's also counted as space-time manipulation because it's manipulating space and time itself.

This is a Immesurable speed feat. Not an hax.

It seems you are not knowledgeable on vs battle standards at all;

going back in time via ftl travel doesnt qualify for immeasurable speed since it is done via inverse laws instead of solely on individual ability, rendering it useless in vs battles outside of said verse. evaluated case by case just refers to making sure the time travel was done solely via ftl travel and as we know the time travel was done only via travelling beyond the speed of light meaning it would only qualify for ftl instead of immeasurable

^^ your point is useless

This is only Weather Manipulation. That big of a storm would obviously wreck the electricity.

It's both, I've subjugated why in a previous thread

His power being sealed /=/ Him being able to live more than normal human age.

Downplaying the feat. His power has been sealed for 10k year which would make his pre-reincarnated self 10k+ years old which is longtivety. Ressurection comes from him Reincarnating into his now 16 year old self.

Why is this not Low 2-C? He literally created an entire universe

Because it shows planetary landscape. Nothing suggest it happened on a universal scale




What kind of downgrade thread is this??

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

I dont think this is AE. There is also no type provided for some reason

Embodyed the universe and it's space-time. How is that not abstract existence again?

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

This ability just seems weird. The Memory Part is fine but the Mind Manipulation part doesn't seem to make sense, just because Wang Lings immense power can cause someone to get into a vegetative state doesnt mean he "erases" their mind.

Ok it was already stated that if he were to use 100% trick the other perso will forget everything including about himself too

Stated to be capable of tampering with the laws of nature

AHere it's the scan

Able to see people's auras, and someone invisible)

Saw the demon from earth in space .

Enhanced Senses

Take same as above

Should be limited Creation since he did it unintentionally.

Later in show in S3 ep 12 time stam would be last 5 min he created a world for demons to live, and it was intentional

This isnt Teleportation, Only DT

It was infact teleportation, in the fight he used teleportation in stopped time.
S1 ep 14 time stamp 11min


Sorry I wasn't able to post the scan my Imgur is acting weird

No scans, broken link.

I will fix this broken link.

I dont think this is AE. There is also no type provided for some reason

Abstracted the space and time itself to create the universe.

No scans, broken link

Again I will fix this one too

This is Stat Amp

I think this one I have a perfect scan for this, let my Imgur work properly I will give those scans until please refrain from making assumptions.

Ok

Why is this not Low 2-C? He literally created an entire universe

This might seems a Lil weird but there was shown only a portion of land through a dimensional portal and wang ling himself said that he created a world , but in this it was not perfectly sure if it was a universe or just a planet, so we just assume it's a planet, tho world's in verse often reffer to universe but we took low end and took it as planet.

AND IN THE END I WOULD LIKE TO ASK PLEASE WAIT FOR MY RESPONSE I WILL SURELY REPLY WHEN I WILL GATHER ALL BROKEN LINKS SCANS​

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

This is why people who aren't knowledgeable on certain verses should not make content on things they don't know.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

This is why people who aren't knowledgeable on certain verses should not make content on things they don't know.

I'll be making something on this soon

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

the demon from earth in space .

This is already listed as Clairvoyance. I know the scene Reiner got this from. I will personally get the link to it

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Wang Ling should get creation for that world creation feat although he already has a universe level creation feat

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Wang Ling should get creation for that world creation feat although he already has a universe level creation feat

Yep

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

His most of the downgrade are pointless cuz of broken links I need some time to fix them

 

[ShionAH]

Simple it has the capability of affecting the mind by giving it a vegatative state. Aka Mind Manipulation, I don't understand your point. It isn't caused by his power, it's done by an innate ability or technique. Cultivation technique I should say.

I dont know. I will wait for staffs opinion, it seems weird for me

No scans for certain stuff are probably Reiner (the creator of the page forgetting to add them or just them already being accepted. This happens alot of times with other pages so it doesn't really matter much. Links that are broken can simply be replaced which I was going to do when I get confirmation to open the page again.

No it doesnt tf? If there is no scans or broken links I will remove them unless you or someone else fixes them

It is teleportation...

Dimensional Travel can be considered Teleportation vice versa since it's literally listed on the same page, just added both which there's no problem with such.

You gotta list one of them. If he only used it to travel through dimensions its DT if he uses it to travel around in the same universe its Teleportation if he does both its both.

Listing both of them is just trying to make the PnA look better lol.

Stat amp can be power Bestowal, it's giving another object new abilities and properties in this context. It's literally both but power Bestowal is more fitting.

No. Power Bestowal is if he could give his clothes the ability to fly, if he only made them more durable its Stat amp.

Obviously, it's also counted as space-time manipulation because it's manipulating space and time itself.

Its only creation, creating a universe is creation. Its common sense.

He needs to merge 2 universes or control a universes space-time for that ability.

It seems you are not knowledgeable on vs battle standards at all;

^^ your point is useless

Cringe passive agressive comment tbh.

It's both, I've subjugated why in a previous thread

Explain here too please.

Downplaying the feat.

Stop being agressive lmaoo

His power has been sealed for 10k year which would make his pre-reincarnated self 10k+ years old which is longtivety.

His power is sealed. His power. Not his body. His power.

Ressurection comes from him Reincarnating into his now 16 year old self.

I never said anything about Ressurection. That part is correct

Because it shows planetary landscape. Nothing suggest it happened on a universal scale

World in anime is used a lot to talk about universes

 

[ShionAH]

Embodyed the universe and it's space-time. How is that not abstract existence again?

Universe is not abstract lol.

This is why people who aren't knowledgeable on certain verses should not make content on things they don't know.

ok

Ok it was already stated that if he were to use 100% trick the other perso will forget everything including about himself too

That is Memory Manipulation. A good one.

AHere it's the scan

That is extremely stupid. He isnt messing with laws of nature. He is just reversing time or whatever. Who accepted this??!

Saw the demon from earth in space .

Uh... okay thats clairvoyance and listed as such on the profile.

Later in show in S3 ep 12 time stam would be last 5 min he created a world for demons to live, and it was intentional

Then please replace the current one with that or add it as additional feat.

It was infact teleportation, in the fight he used teleportation in stopped time.
S1 ep 14 time stamp 11min

Then delete Dimensional Travel.

Abstracted the space and time itself to create the universe.

What

I think this one I have a perfect scan for this, let my Imgur work properly I will give those scans until please refrain from making assumptions.

The explanation of it is Stat amp.

This might seems a Lil weird but there was shown only a portion of land through a dimensional portal and wang ling himself said that he created a world , but in this it was not perfectly sure if it was a universe or just a planet, so we just assume it's a planet, tho world's in verse often reffer to universe but we took low end and took it as planet.

That stuupid, Wang should be possibly Low 2-C or straight up Low 2-C for that imo

 

[Benimōru]

Universe is not abstract lol.

Spatial dimensions are not, yes. But time is an abstraction. Since it doesn't exist physically

So, technically, being the embodiment of the universe (including its temporal dimension - and the associated feat of regeneration/immortality or control feat over it) should be at least type 2

 

[ShionAH]

Spatial dimensions are not, yes. But time is an abstraction. Since it doesn't exist physically

I will wait for Staffs opinion on this.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

That is extremely stupid. He isnt messing with laws of nature. He is just reversing time or whatever. Who accepted this??!

Well he is defying law, as per froggy statement.c

Then delete Dimensional Travel.

Cannot cuz Dimensional travel was also there in s2 ep 12 last 7 min

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

No it doesnt tf? If there is no scans or broken links I will remove them unless you or someone else fixes them

One two and the other 1000s of pages have information with no link, mods themselves can clarify this because they do most of the editing here. I was gonna add information either way so it doesn't matter.

You gotta list one of them. If he only used it to travel through dimensions its DT if he uses it to travel around in the same universe its Teleportation if he does both its both.

Listing both of them is just trying to make the PnA look better lol.

It's still both. And yea I've stated I wanna make it look better~~
I thought this was supposed to be a downgrade thread, this is just removing simple stuff. Sure it can be dimensional travel.

No. Power Bestowal is if he could give his clothes the ability to fly, if he only made them more durable its Stat amp.

It's literally still doesn't matter. Stat amp applies to self Amplification. Power Bestowal applies to object amping which is what's happening here.

Its only creation, creating a universe is creation. Its common sense.

This is how ik you are not knowledgeable on the verse at all. The context in the feat is literally both characters using their tricks, one of space manipulating and one time manipulating to then make a universe. Its still space-time manipulation because they're using space-time based powers to create a universe. Stop downplaying the feat without knowing the context.

Cringe passive agressive comment tbh.

It really isn't. Ur point was literally useless as vs battle standards debunks it automatically.

Stop being agressive lmaoo

I'm not, you're literally disregarding the feat without knowing the context to make an assumption. I'm just naming what you're doing.

His power is sealed. His power. Not his body. His power.

It proves he existed 10k years ago. Again you are not knowledgeable on this and is currently making assumptions. It has to do with him, his power being sealed 10k years ago to reincarnate in today's world means he existed 10k years ago.

World in anime is used a lot to talk about universes

Now ur just assuming and committing association fallacies lol

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Spatial dimensions are not, yes. But time is an abstraction. Since it doesn't exist physically

So, technically, being the embodiment of the universe (including its temporal dimension - and the associated feat of regeneration/immortality) should be at least type 2

That's why it was accepted ae when Reiner proposed it

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

That stuupid, Wang should be possibly Low 2-C or straight up Low 2-C for that imo

So?? Are you saying since every feat in the show is around that means everything Wang ling does is 2-C?? Reminder only his unsealed key is 2-C not his unsealed version

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Sealed Wang ling did that feat and sealed Wang ling is consistently tier 5

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

I'm gonna ask a mod to close this as shionah is not knowledgeable on the verse and is making a thread based on assumptions. Only knowledgeable people on verses and mods are allowed to comment or make content on verses.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Sealed Wang ling did that feat and sealed Wang ling is consistently tier 5

I agree

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

I'm gonna ask a mod to close this as shionah is not knowledgeable on the verse and is making a thread based on assumptions. Only knowledgeable people on verses and mods are allowed to comment or make content on threads

Well i won't comment on here, I think it can happen due to there were broken links, i will ask mods to open the profile for you to change the links or I will do it myself either ways.

 

[ShionAH]

Well he is defying law, as per froggy statement.c

Its flowery language. If a character stops time they are also tempering with laws of nature. Literally anything supernatural is tempering with laws of nature.

Cannot cuz Dimensional travel was also there in s2 ep 12 last 7 min

Then add that. With scans.

One two and the other 1000s of pages have information with no link, mods themselves can clarify this because they do most of the editing here. I was gonna add information either way so it doesn't matter.

You can make a thread and delete those profiles if you want. Your logic is like "Those robbers are stealing, so I should steal too!" wtf

It's still both.

Its one of them, if you add both then you need 2 feats with specifically these haxes

I thought this was supposed to be a downgrade thread, this is just removing simple stuff. Sure it can be dimensional travel.

Removing simple stuff is still a downgraded lol

It's literally still doesn't matter. Stat amp applies to self Amplification. Power Bestowal applies to object amping which is what's happening here.

"Power Bestowal (not to be confused with Statistics Amplification) is the ability to grant other beings or objects new abilities or even new forms, although generally not superior to that of the granter's."

Please read ability pages before making assumptions. This is Stat Amp.

This is how ik you are not knowledgeable on the verse at all.

I would have been more knowledgeable if the profile actually explained stuff lol.

The context in the feat is literally both characters using their tricks, one of space manipulating and one time manipulating to then make a universe. Its still space-time manipulation because they're using space-time based powers to create a universe. Stop downplaying the feat without knowing the context.

Scans for this is needed. This is literally creation. Nothing else.

It proves he existed 10k years ago. Again you are not knowledgeable on this and is currently making assumptions. It has to do with him, his power being sealed 10k years ago to reincarnate in today's world means he existed 10k years ago.

Sure he existed 10k years ago. Was he alive for 10k years? No. His power was simply sealed away. We dont know anything about it.

I'm gonna ask a mod to close this as shionah is not knowledgeable on the verse and is making a thread based on assumptions. Only knowledgeable people on verses and mods are allowed to comment or make content on verses.

You cannot do that.

So?? Are you saying since every feat in the show is around that means everything Wang ling does is 2-C?? Reminder only his unsealed key is 2-C not his unsealed version

Good job. You put random words in my mouth.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Scans for this is needed. This is literally creation. Nothing else.

Restarting the whole universe/ space time 10k+ times

You can't say its not space-time manipulation

 

[ShionAH]

Restarting the whole universe/ space time 10k+ times

You can't say its not space-time manipulation

That will be time manipulation

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Its flowery language. If a character stops time they are also tempering with laws of nature. Literally anything supernatural is tempering with laws of nature.

It isn't. The context behind it all is Wang ling using time hax to change the laws of nature, manipulating laws at baseline is law Manipulation WITH CONTEXT which we have. Ur literally appealing to 'anything' instead of subjugating the feat.

Then add that. With scans.

We were gonna do that . You're just rushing us, we have a whole upgrade thread on store rn.

Its one of them, if you add both then you need 2 feats with specifically these haxes

It wouldn't matter if it qualifes for both, like I said one can stay but both. Wouldn't matter because it applies to both hax. Lol.

Please read ability pages before making assumptions. This is Stat Amp

"Not to be confused with stat amp" that just means they both coordinate but can be confused. The purpose of the feat is literally Wang ling giving properties to his clothes which is power Bestowal.

I would have been more knowledgeable if the profile actually explained stuff lol.

That's not the point. Seeing stuff doesn't make u knowledgeable on everything. Don't blame the page. It is simply your fault and problem making a thread on something you don't know about to argue based on assumptions and hearsays which is why I'm gonna ask this to get closed.

Scans for this is needed. This is literally creation. Nothing else.

You haven't attacked what I just explained. That's just ignorance.

Sure he existed 10k years ago. Was he alive for 10k years? No. His power was simply sealed away. We dont know anything about it.

You do know existing 10k years ago means he was alive 10k years ago right? . We do know Wang ling reincarnated which means he did exists before the show. Stop making assumptions, the show literally explains it.

You cannot do that.

I will*

Good job. You put random words in my mouth.

How so??? You're just not gonna attack what I said??

Your argument is "If Wang ling is low 2C then all his feats should be low 2-C" this is going towards his feat of creating a world in a short amount of time. You haven't contended the landscape argument or subjugated why its on a universal scale. Your argument is simply he's low 2-C so the feat should be too

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

That will be time manipulation

No not just time manipulation, he restarted the universe, with different scenarios, but none of the scenario had alive sun rong .

S1 ep 15 time 00:10

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

That will be time manipulation

Yea, there's other things on why spacetime manipulation is on there which is ignored by you

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

To reiterate, when creating content revision threads, it is best to keep your suggestions as structured and simple to understand as possible, so the staff will have an easier time evaluating the text. Avoid writing upgrade threads mainly based on assumptions from a limited amount of information, with no additional context or evidence to support them.

Gonna get closed. Asked samou to skim through

 

[Syncornize]

Hax and Abilities

• Memory Manipulation, and Mind Manipulation (via "Trick of forgetting," at 50% Wang Ling can erase and insert new memory into the target. At 100% he can also erase the target's mind, making them enter a vegetative state)

This ability just seems weird. The Memory Part is fine but the Mind Manipulation part doesn't seem to make sense, just because Wang Lings immense power can cause someone to get into a vegetative state doesnt mean he "erases" their mind.

• Chi Manipulation

No scans.

• Law Manipulation (Stated to be capable of tampering with the laws of nature[1])

Again no scan. I also heard this is just flowery language about his power.

• Extrasensory Perception (Able to see people's auras, and someone invisible)

No scan, broken link

• Enhanced Senses

No scans.

• Reality Warping (Unintentionally created a universe that was governed by his dreams[1])

Should be limited Creation since he did it unintentionally.

• Dimensional Travel, Teleportation(After he destroys the demon universe, he teleported back to the human world)

This isnt Teleportation, Only DT

• Forcefield Creation (Created force field for Silvia via magic)

Listed twice, broken link with no scans

• Abstract Existence (Shown to embody an entire universe he created including its space-time)

I dont think this is AE. There is also no type provided for some reason.

• Fusionism (Was shown to be capable of fusing with froggy)

No scans.

• Fire Manipulation (Create a bird made of Flame)

No scans, broken link. This would be Creation

• Breath Attack (His breath was strong enough to spread the candle's flames to the entire house to burn it)

No scans, broken link.

• Technology Manipulation (Short circuit the smart phone of the boss of the shadow faction)

No scans, broken link. This would be limited.

• Body Control (Via manipulating DNA and elasticity)

This is only biological manipulation.

• Power Nullification to Absorption (Made starkworm give back all the spritual energy it has absorbed with mere touch)

No scans, broken link.

• Holy Manipulation (Cured Chen's evil spirit and mind via art of purification)

This is purification

• Light Manipulation (Created light using Jingke)

No scans, broken link.

• Power Bestowal (Enlightened his clothes to withstand even nuclear explosions)

This is Stat Amp.

• Space-Time Manipulation and Reality Warping (Wang Ling along with froggy two can cause a singularity which creates a universe with their powers combined)

Again. This is Creation.

• Time Travel (Moving Faster than the speed of light Wang ling was able to time travel)

This is a Immesurable speed feat. Not an hax.

• Weather Manipulation and Technology Manipulation (Upon his spiritual energy being measured, It caused the technology in the city to shut off and A cloud raining down lightning to appear)

This is only Weather Manipulation. That big of a storm would obviously wreck the electricity.

• Resurrection and Possibly Longevity (His power was sealed for 10000 years before his reincarnation according to jingke, so his age should be around that range.)

His power being sealed /=/ Him being able to live more than normal human age.

AP and Stats

• Dwarf Star level (Wang Ling moved three celestial bodies way bigger than earth simultaneously one after another at FTL speed, created an entire new world, capable to destroy world, moved 3 celestial bodies away from earth all together)

Why is this not Low 2-C? He literally created an entire universe.

If this is talking about a planet then the word "world" should be changed with "planet" to not confuse the reader.

I already commented in the other thread regarding causality and law manipulation. Until further evidence they should not be considered and removed, such as haxes that have no actual evidence. For broken links I suggest inserting new ones and then evaluating their validity in the near future

 

[ShionAH]

I already commented in the other thread regarding causality and law manipulation. Until further evidence they should not be considered and removed, such as haxes that have no actual evidence. For broken links I suggest inserting new ones and then evaluating their validity in the near future

The Law hax is simply wrong though. Its too vague, he controls time and they say “he is tempering with laws of nature” this is only time hax

 

[Syncornize]

The Law hax is simply wrong though. Its too vague, he controls time and they say “he is tempering with laws of nature” this is only time hax

yes, I already talked about this in the other thread and whoever created the thread agrees that it is all a consequence of time manipulation.
I just mean that there may be companies of this kind, if they are actually present they will be discussed but the one currently on the profile does not qualify

 

[ShionAH]

yes, I already talked about this in the other thread and whoever created the thread agrees that it is all a consequence of time manipulation

Okay so it can be removed?

 

[Syncornize]

Okay so it can be removed?

write to an administrator's wall or a mod thread and ask him to rate this. When they give you approval you can make the change

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Dimensional Travel and Teleportation can both be listed if the teleportation can be used to travel dimensions. Doesn't matter if you see it as "making abilities look more impressive". Also creating counts as manipulation. Creating a universe would be spatial manip/space-time manip as seen in the spatial manipulation page

Examples include teleportation, causing wormholes, summoning, creating pocket dimensions and universes, causing a loop in space, invisibility (by altering light travel), creating force fields, etc. Some users can also manipulate time which is called Space-Time Manipulation.

and creating something made of fire would also count as fire manipulation.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Dimensional Travel and Teleportation can both be listed if the teleportation can be used to travel dimensions. Doesn't matter if you see it as "making abilities look more impressive". Also creating counts as manipulation. Creating a universe would be spatial manip/space-time manip as seen in the spatial manipulation page

Thanks you!! Omg finally someone who understands

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Thanks you!! Omg finally someone who understands

So I asked them to unlock his profile so that broken links can be fixed

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

So I asked them to unlock his profile so that broken links can be fixed

Yea

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Yea

Ok profile is now unlocked