wait this isnt goku vs sonic | Sonic The Hedgehog vs Sun Wukong | 0-0-0

[Brogeefrong]

my bike broken down and i had to walk like a mile this sucks
Pre-Genesis Wave Sonic is used, Ultra Sonic is used
Great Sage Equaling Heaven Sun Wukong is used
Both are 7D
Speed is equalized
Fight takes place at a 41th Dimensional sized factory making 88 cans of the most popular pop in the 29th Dimensional per hour
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Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie Pre-Genesis Wave)

Sonic the Hedgehog, born Maurice Hedgehog, is the eponymous protagonist in the Sonic the Hedgehog comic series and its spin-offs published by Archie Comics, of the same name. He is a mobian hedgehog gifted with incredible speed and the power to harness Chaos Energy. Known for an overconfident...

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Sun Wukong (Journey to the West)

Sun Wukong was born from a magical stone formed from chaos. Upon hatching into the world he lived most of his life on The Mountain of Flowers and Fruit. There he joined and lived with a large group of monkeys eventually discovering a secret cave that the monkeys could use as their new home. The...

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[Brogeefrong]

Bump

 

[ProbNotAFelon]

From what I can see, neither of them have great options for directly killing each other due to immortality and invulnerability and such. Monkey might be able to do something with BFR or Sleep Manipulation for incap, though that's not really in character. Hedgehog also has BFR so that could happen.

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

So I might as well ask the big question here: Can Sonic even interact with and harm Sun Wukong to begin with? Sun's got a couple levels of NEP 2 under his belt and Nonduality Type 2 and Aspect 2 on top of that, and nothing on Archie Sonic's profile says he has been able to interact with entities which have that level of Nonexistent Physiology and Nonduality so I personally can't see Archie Sonic being able to harm Sun in the first place.

I want to wait to see what other arguments spring up but, currently, I'm already seeing Sonic having a huge disadvantage

 

[Brogeefrong]

So I might as well ask the big question here: Can Sonic even interact with and harm Sun Wukong to begin with? Sun's got a couple levels of NEP 2 under his belt and Nonduality Type 2 and Aspect 2 on top of that, and nothing on Archie Sonic's profile says he has been able to interact with entities which have that level of Nonexistent Physiology and Nonduality so I personally can't see Archie Sonic being able to harm Sun in the first place.

The NEP and ND are on the The Buddha Victorious in Strife key, not the one im using

From what I can see, neither of them have great options for directly killing each other due to immortality and invulnerability and such. Monkey might be able to do something with BFR or Sleep Manipulation for incap, though that's not really in character. Hedgehog also has BFR so that could happen.

To start with Sonic he has about couple hundred layers of Chaos Energy Hax with includes CM Type 1, Causality Manip, and Subjective Reality (Layers went through the thread)

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

The NEP and ND are on the The Buddha Victorious in Strife key, not the one im using

To start with Sonic he has about couple hundred layers of Chaos Energy Hax with includes CM Type 1, Causality Manip, and Subjective Reality (Layers went through the thread)

Oh, I guess I didn't read properly so my mistake. Hmm....yeah if Sonic's got hundreds of layers of CM1, Causality, and Subjective Reality hax under his belt then I can't see Sun winning this one.

The NEP and ND are on the The Buddha Victorious in Strife key, not the one im using

To start with Sonic he has about couple hundred layers of Chaos Energy Hax with includes CM Type 1, Causality Manip, and Subjective Reality (Layers went through the thread)

I just took a look through the hax layer evaluation thread and, no, it doesn't list those layers as having been accepted on that thread. So can you link where this was accepted? Because then I'm going to assume Sonic's hax is baseline

 

[Brogeefrong]

Oh, I guess I didn't read properly so my mistake. Hmm....yeah if Sonic's got hundreds of layers of CM1, Causality, and Subjective Reality hax under his belt then I can't see Sun winning this one.

Wukong has stuff like Information, Sleep, and Dura neg that effects Souls and NEP

I just took a look through the hax layer evaluation thread and, no, it doesn't list those layers as having been accepted on that thread. So can you link where this was accepted? Because then I'm going to assume Sonic's hax is baseline

Hax Layer Evaluation Thread

If you have a higher authority, you can resist whatever the lower authority character throws at you regardless of potency or layering, and can also pierce through any resistances they might have That sounds a lot more like a caveat / power hierarchy thing than actual layers. Last part again...

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[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Hax Layer Evaluation Thread

If you have a higher authority, you can resist whatever the lower authority character throws at you regardless of potency or layering, and can also pierce through any resistances they might have That sounds a lot more like a caveat / power hierarchy thing than actual layers. Last part again...

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He was fine with Power Rings having layers, but he didn't say the same thing for Chaos Emerald layers. So at the moment, Sonic doesn't have hundreds of layers of hax and so I'm going to assume it's baseline

 

[Brogeefrong]

He was fine with Power Rings having layers, but he didn't say the same thing for Chaos Emerald layers. So at the moment, Sonic doesn't have hundreds of layers of hax and so I'm going to assume it's baseline

The Power rings have Chaos energy, and 1 Emerald > Enough Rings to cover the death egg

 

[Robo432343]

Broge wtf

that does not mean sonic has hundreds of layers of hax

 

[Brogeefrong]

Broge wtf

that does not mean sonic has hundreds of layers of hax

• A single Power Ring can block out & negate the Iron Queen's Technology/Corruption/Mind hax
• However When the Iron Queen boosted her capabilities with 2 Power Rings, she could control Monkey Khan despite him wearing his Power Ring crown which should grant him protection, meaning that the potency of 2 Power Rings > Resistance granted by 1
• The exact amount of Power Rings needed to nearly overcome a Pre-Harmony Chaos Emerald is unknown but enough to cover the Death Egg. Links are dead but thats the ring stuff

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

The Power rings have Chaos energy, and 1 Emerald > Enough Rings to cover the death egg

Okay, and how many rings does it take to cover the Death Egg? If it's an unknown number of Rings then I can't buy it being the equivalent to hundreds of Rings when no number was ever given out.

However When the Iron Queen boosted her capabilities with 2 Power Rings, she could control Monkey Khan despite him wearing his Power Ring crown which should grant him protection, meaning that the potency of 2 Power Rings > Resistance granted by 1

Also I'd like to point out that none of these links work anymore, so I can't see if it's true or not. And I don't know if she controlled him at an earlier or later point in the comic, but this link I found on Sonic's profile shows that Iron Queen was able to control Khan only after Khan had his Power Ring taken from him. So if this is true then she didn't need to boost herself with two Rings because she can control him when his crown was off

 

[Eseseso]

The NEP and ND are on the The Buddha Victorious in Strife key, not the one im using

To start with Sonic he has about couple hundred layers of Chaos Energy Hax with includes CM Type 1, Causality Manip, and Subjective Reality (Layers went through the thread)

Actually, Glass withdrew his acceptance since some of the ring scans don't work.

 

[Eseseso]

Okay, and how many rings does it take to cover the Death Egg? If it's an unknown number of Rings then I can't buy it being the equivalent to hundreds of Rings when no number was ever given out.

Tbf the Death Egg is huge.

Even if it's just a few kilometers in diameter, then since each ring is only like a foot in diameter that would mean hundreds bare minimum thanks to the surface area the Death Egg would have.

 

[Eseseso]

Also, Sun's first key seems to not have that much hax compared to Sonic.

 

[Brogeefrong]

Actually, Glass withdrew his acceptance since some of the ring scans don't work.

Then ig null point
Sonic still has Causality/Law Manip which wukong doesnt resist

 

[Brogeefrong]

Bump

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Wukong can use Dharma, which is 8D at minimum.

 

[Brogeefrong]

Bump

 

[Witchakorn]

Broken Cartoon character (OG rings game Character) vs Broken Novel Character.

Cartoon may had some feats that cartoon did while Novel had writting feats from writer imagination.

My feeling is No wonder sonic can win or No wonder Wu kong win.

it hard to vote

 

[Chanimate]

Speed is equalized, but Sonic still has speed amps, correct? Regardless, it looks more to be who can do their hax first. Since Sonic is already in Ultra Sonic form, I think it's more in character for him to use his Wincon first (if he actually has one), as he cannot stay in that form for very long.

According to Brogee, Wukong doesn't resist Sonic's Causality/Law Manip, which I know is something he uses frequently in his Super Form (chaos powers in general, if I'm being honest). I know this is his Ultra form, but I'm just saying he's probably more likely to use his Causality/Law manip in this form.

Wukong can use Dharma, which is 8D at minimum.

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